System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....

brink;450692 Wrote:
> Bowen
>
> I would not think that they would do anything unless they had a featur
> that cleans junk off the hard drive
>
> For a test, you might bump up the size to 150 GB to see if it will hol
> more. If not, you can bump it back down
>
> Shaw

Thanks, how do I raise the size? Like I said I'll try the Diskeepin
thing. I'll try it tonight sometime and see what happens. BTW, it'
got 7 restore points right now. I bet it's Perfect Disk. I'll test i
tonight and see if it's the culprit or not

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Bowen

Bowen;451258 Wrote:
> Thanks, how do I raise the size? Like I said I'll try the Diskeepin
> thing. I'll try it tonight sometime and see what happens. BTW, it's go
> 7 restore points right now. I bet it's Perfect Disk. I'll test i
> tonight and see if it's the culprit or not

Bowen

The second step will show you how in this tutorial. I hope it work
out with the test

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76...disk-space.htm

Shaw

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OK, well I finally got around to using Perfect Disk and I've confirme
that it's the culprit. Diskeeper was doing the same thing too. Prio
to running Perfect Disk, I had 9 Restore Points saved. Then I ran P
and it wanted to do a boot time defrag and I agreed and after i
finished, all my restore points were gone.

This is OK since my system is running flawlessly right now, but what
want to know is how can I program PD to stay away from the Restor
Points

Thanks for all your help. At least I know the cause, so the problem i
50% solved IMO. I know I could simply uninstall PD, but that's not
real fix since Diskeeper does this too. There's got to be a way to wor
around this

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Bowen

Here's another thread at Techguy Forums and Rollin' Rog, one of the mod
there contacted Raxco. They said that it shouldn't be doing it. I
happened to him too, BTW. Anyway check out the thread here: 'Syste
Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically.... - Tech Support Gu
Forums
(http://forums.techguy.org/windows-vi...re-points.html

Post #9 is the one where he contacted them and they responded

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Bowen

Hi,

I had the same experience with PerfectDisk and Vista. Restore points should
not be deleted unless PerfectDisk is run at boot up. Running PerfectDisk
from within Vista should be save.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org


Bowen wrote:
> OK, well I finally got around to using Perfect Disk and I've confirmed
> that it's the culprit. Diskeeper was doing the same thing too. Prior
> to running Perfect Disk, I had 9 Restore Points saved. Then I ran PD
> and it wanted to do a boot time defrag and I agreed and after it
> finished, all my restore points were gone.
>
> This is OK since my system is running flawlessly right now, but what I
> want to know is how can I program PD to stay away from the Restore
> Points?
>
> Thanks for all your help. At least I know the cause, so the problem is
> 50% solved IMO. I know I could simply uninstall PD, but that's not a
> real fix since Diskeeper does this too. There's got to be a way to work
> around this.

Bert Kinney;455024 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I had the same experience with PerfectDisk and Vista. Restore points
> should
> not be deleted unless PerfectDisk is run at boot up. Running
> PerfectDisk
> from within Vista should be save.
>
> Regards,
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> 'All About System Restore in WinXP' (http://bertk.mvps.org)
> Member: 'Welcome to DTS-L.org' (http://dts-l.org)
>
>
> Bowen wrote:

So as long as you don't run a boot time defrag, it shouldn't delete
restore points then? I'll have to try that out because I really like
Perfect Disk. I have Diskeeper too and I like it better (PerfectDisk)
than Diskeeper because...well it's faster.


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Bowen

Bowen wrote:
> Bert Kinney;455024 Wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I had the same experience with PerfectDisk and Vista. Restore points
>> should
>> not be deleted unless PerfectDisk is run at boot up. Running
>> PerfectDisk
>> from within Vista should be save.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> 'All About System Restore in WinXP' (http://bertk.mvps.org)
>> Member: 'Welcome to DTS-L.org' (http://dts-l.org)
>>
>>
>> Bowen wrote:
>
> So as long as you don't run a boot time defrag, it shouldn't delete
> restore points then? I'll have to try that out because I really like
> Perfect Disk. I have Diskeeper too and I like it better (PerfectDisk)
> than Diskeeper because...well it's faster.

That's correct. Give it try and let us know the results.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

Bert Kinney;456651 Wrote:
> Bowen wrote
>
> That's correct. Give it try and let us know the results
>
> Regards
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/Use
> 'All About System Restore in WinXP' (http://bertk.mvps.org
> Member: 'Welcome to DTS-L.org' (http://dts-l.org

Well, you were correct Bert, it didn't delete any restore points withi
Windows. However, it took an hour and sixteen minutes to complete an
PD said I didn't even need to defrag. The thing about doing a boot tim
defrag is that it only takes......well it only took 5 minutes the las
time I did it, but of course it wipes out the restore points

I think what I'm gonna do is go ahead and do boot time defrags and the
immediately make a manual restore point afterwards. I imagine the boo
time defrag only defrags certain files, where the Windows defrag doe
the entire hard drive. At least now I know though

Do you happen to know a workaround for doing a boot time defrag whil
saving your restore points? This would be a little annoying and out o
the way, but couldn't you say, burn your restore points (at least som
of them) to a DVD-RW and then do a boot time defrag and then just cop
them back afterwards. Would that work per chance

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Bowen

> Bert Kinney Wrote:
>> That's correct. Give it try and let us know the results.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> 'All About System Restore in WinXP' (http://bertk.mvps.org)
>> Member: 'Welcome to DTS-L.org' (http://dts-l.org)


Bowen wrote:
> Well, you were correct Bert, it didn't delete any restore points within
> Windows. However, it took an hour and sixteen minutes to complete and
> PD said I didn't even need to defrag. The thing about doing a boot time
> defrag is that it only takes......well it only took 5 minutes the last
> time I did it, but of course it wipes out the restore points.
>
> I think what I'm gonna do is go ahead and do boot time defrags and then
> immediately make a manual restore point afterwards.

And make sure the system is running correctly before hand. And remember all
Shadow Copy's will be effected including Previous Versions.

> I imagine the boot
> time defrag only defrags certain files, where the Windows defrag does
> the entire hard drive. At least now I know though.

You may want to check with Raxco Support on this.

> Do you happen to know a workaround for doing a boot time defrag while
> saving your restore points?

I don't know of any workaround to this.

> This would be a little annoying and out of
> the way, but couldn't you say, burn your restore points (at least some
> of them) to a DVD-RW and then do a boot time defrag and then just copy
> them back afterwards. Would that work per chance?

No, this will not work.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org