system restore maximum memory

hi i just recently set my maximum system restore point to 3gb as it was
previously draining alot of memory from my laptop. I have 10gb of music
and i was wondering how much gb would i need to set my maximum restore
point to to make sure all my files are protected? does my vista system
restore save my files and music and how exactly does it work? Could
someone please get back to me.


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aksz

On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 05:23:37 -0600, aksz <>
wrote:

>hi i just recently set my maximum system restore point to 3gb as it was
>previously draining alot of memory from my laptop. I have 10gb of music
>and i was wondering how much gb would i need to set my maximum restore
>point to to make sure all my files are protected? does my vista system
>restore save my files and music and how exactly does it work? Could
>someone please get back to me.

System Restore ONLY saves system files/settings needed to keep your
system running. It has nothing - NOTHING - to do with any of your
personal files. You need a backup program for those, and most likely
an external drive to back everything up to.

DDW
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Hello aksz,

I'm not sure about this--but it looks p�omising--Ignore the title

Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore in Windows XP
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx>

I'm sure you'll get more detailed help from the guys who know a lot more
about Vista SR than me, but I hope this is enough to get you on the right
road for now.

Good look

-=--

"aksz" wrote:

>
> hi i just recently set my maximum system restore point to 3gb as it was
> previously draining alot of memory from my laptop. I have 10gb of music
> and i was wondering how much gb would i need to set my maximum restore
> point to to make sure all my files are protected? does my vista system
> restore save my files and music and how exactly does it work? Could
> someone please get back to me.
>
>
> --
> aksz
>

aksz;1096605 Wrote:
> hi i just recently set my maximum system restore point to 3gb as it wa
> previously draining alot of memory from my laptop. I have 10gb of musi
> and i was wondering how much gb would i need to set my maximum restor
> point to to make sure all my files are protected? does my vista syste
> restore save my files and music and how exactly does it work? Coul
> someone please get back to me
>
>
> -
> aks

System restore only saves system files and drivers. This is to restor
a computer where these files have become corrupted (virus etc) or t
wind back to before a failed installation (e.g. a program or drive
install that stopped something working that was working before)

System restore doesn't back up ANY of your files (music, pics, dat
etc.). This is up to you to do, preferably to another external devic
in case the disk with your data dies or the laptop is stolen

I would recommend using the default Vista settings for the syste
restore size even if this seems like a lot of disk space (actually it
not easy to change the size in Vista without additional tools) AND d
backups of your personal files, perhaps to a DVD

--
litde
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Hi aksz,

Sorry about the link
Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore in Windows XP

This is the original content

On This Page
General Questions
How-To Guide
Troubleshooting
Additional Information


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General Questions
Q. What is System Restore?
A. The System Restore feature of Microsoft Windows XP enables administrators
to restore their computers to a previous state without losing personal data
files (e.g. Word documents, graphic files, e-mail). System Restore actively
monitors system file changes and some application file changes to record or
store previous versions before the changes occurred. Users never have to
think about taking system snapshots as System Restore automatically creates
easily identifiable restore points, which the users can use to revert to a
previous time. Restore points are created at the time of significant system
events (such as application or driver install) and periodically (each day).
Additionally, users can create and name their own restore points at any time.
For more information, please see the System Restore|
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...b_tol_fngj.asp document on TechNet.

Q. Which versions of Windows features System Restore?
A. System Restore is available in Windows Millennium (Me) and the Windows XP
(Home and Professional) Operating Systems. However, this FAQ addresses
questions and issues with System Restore in Windows XP only.

Q. How is System Restore different from Backup?
A. System Restore monitors only a core set of specified system and
application file types (e.g. .exe, .dll etc), while Backup Utility typically
backs up all files including users personal data files, ensuring a safe copy
stored either on the local disk or to another medium. System Restore does not
monitor changes to or recover users' personal data files such as documents,
graphics, e-mail, and so on. While system data contained in System Restore's
restore points are available to restore to for only a limited period (restore
points older than 90 days are deleted by default), backups made by the Backup
Utility can be recovered at any time.

Q. Do I need to do anything to ensure System Restore is protecting my system?
A. System Restore is enabled by default and runs after the successful
completion of either the Windows XP Professional or Personal x86-version
installation. It requires a minimum of 200 MB of free space available on the
system partition. If 200 MB is not available, System Restore will install
disabled and will enable itself automatically once the required disk space is
available.

With System Restore, you also never have to worry about taking system
snapshots, as it will automatically create easily identifiable restore
points, which allows you to revert to a previous time. Restore points are
created at the time of significant system events (such as application or
driver install) and periodically (each day). Additionally, you can create and
name your own restore points at any time. You also never have to worry about
System Restore filling up your hard drive with these restore points. By
default, it only uses a maximum of 12% disk capacity and has an automatic
restore point space management feature that purges the oldest restore points
to make room for new ones, enabling recovery from any recent undesirable
changes.



Q. Why can't all users on my computer access the System Restore settings?
A. Only users with administrative rights can use System Restore to restore
and adjust System Restore settings. However, the creation of automatic
restore points (system checkpoints or event-driven restore points) on the
computer takes place regardless of which user is logged onto the computer. If
a non-admin user is logged on, system checkpoints or event driven checkpoints
will still be created on that computer to ensure protection. However, only a
user with admin privileges will be able to restore the computer.

Q. Does System Restore protect personal data files?
A. System Restore does not monitor changes to or recover personal data files
such as Word documents, graphics, e-mail, etc.

Q. What files are monitored by System Restore?
A. System Restore monitors only a core set of specified system and
application file types (e.g. .exe, .dll etc), archiving the states of these
files before system changes are made. System Restore does not monitor any
user/personal data files. To view the included files specified in System
Restore, see Monitored File Extensions in the System Restore section of the
Platform SDK. Modifications to this list from sources other than Microsoft
are not supported.




Q. Does System Restore uninstall my program if I restore to a point before
the program was installed?
A. System Restore does not completely uninstall any program if restoring to
a point prior to the program installation. As System Restore is based on an
inclusionary model, any files added or modified by the installation (which is
not monitored by System Restore) or added to or modified in a non-monitored
drive will not be tracked. To remove all changes an installation may have
made to the system, the user should first use the Add/Remove option in the
control panel to remove the application prior to using System Restore. System
Restore will undo all recorded changes made to the registry and monitored
files caused by the application install, including:

• Deleted or monitored files added to the system from the program installation

• Undo modifications to monitored files made by the installation

• Replacement of the current registry with the registry snapshot taken at
the chosen restore point (some current values may persist)


Q. What is or is not restored on my computer when I use System Restore?
A. See below.

Restored:

• Registry

• Profiles (local only; roaming user profiles are not affected by restore)

• COM+ DB

• WFP.dll cache

• WMI DB

• IIS Metabase

• File types monitored by System Restore as specified in the SDK document
Monitored File Extensions


Not restored:

• DRM settings

• Passwords in the SAM hive

• WPA settings (Windows authentication information is not restored)

• Specific directories/files listed in the Monitored File Extensions list in
the System Restore section of the Platform SDK e.g. 'My Documents' folder

• Any file types not monitored by System Restore (.doc, .jpg, etc.)

• Items listed in both Filesnottobackup and KeysnottoRestore
(hklm->system->controlset001->control->backuprestore->filesnottobackup and
keysnottorestore) in the registry

• User-created data stored in the user profile

• Contents of redirected folders


Q. Why does System Restore delete some downloaded or saved files during a
restore?
A. As System Restore monitors a core set of specified system and application
file types, any downloaded or saved file which has an extension type
monitored by System Restore (e.g. .exe, .dlls) and stored on a monitored
drive will be lost if restoring to a point prior to the download or save. If
you do not want to lose files with a monitored extension due to a restore,
you should move these files to the My Documents folder or to a non-monitored
partition not restored during a restore process. If you have unknowingly
deleted some files due to a restore on your system, you can always recover
them by undoing the restore process in question.

Q. When are restore points created?
A. The user can manually create a restore point at any time on their
computer using the System Restore Wizard. Restore Points are also
automatically created on your computer when:

• Installing an unsigned device driver

• Installing System Restore compliant applications (Installing an
application that uses Windows Installer, or Install Shield Pro version 7.0 or
later, causes System Restore to create a restore point)

• Installing an update by using Automatic Updates

• Performing a System Restore operation so the user can undo that restore
operation if needed

• Restoring data from backup media using the Backup tool

• Creating daily restore points (System Restore creates a restore point
every 24 hours if the computer is on or 24 hours have passed since the last
restore point was created)


Q. Can I make System Restore permanently retain a restore point?
A. No. System Restore is change base tracking tool, not an imaging or backup
tool. Each restore point only stores changes to the system since the creation
of the previous restore point to minimize space usage and improve
performance, and all restore points are associated. Therefore, restoring the
computer from the current state to a previous state requires the availability
of all restore points. For example, if a user wants to restore the computer
from point D to point A, System Restore will evaluate the system change logs
for points C, B, and

If a restore point is permanent, space usage for storing the complete chain
of restore points since the creation of the permanent restore point would
become very large and impractical. System Restore also provides a space
management feature to purge old restore points to make room for new ones,
creating a rolling safety net. Restore points over 90 days are purged
automatically by default.

Q. How does an improper shutdown effect System Restore?
A. If an improper shutdown occurs, there is a small possibility that a
restore could fail because System Restore may not have logged some file
operations properly at the time of shutdown. If the restore fails, the system
will be in the same state as before the restore was initiated.

Q. How much disk space does System Restore use?
A. Disk space used by System Restore by default:

• For drives greater than 4 GB, System Restore uses up to 12% of the disk
space

• For drives less than 4 GB, System Restore by default only uses up to 400
MB of disk space

• The data store size is not a reserved space on the disk and the maximum
size (to the max values defined above) is limited at any time by the amount
of free space available on disk. Thus, if disk space use encroaches on the
data store size, System Restore always yields its data store space to the
system. For example, if the data store size is configured to 500 MB, of which
200 MB is already used, and the current free hard-disk space is only 150 MB,
the effective size of the data store is 350 MB (200 + 150), not 500 MB.

• Note that disk space usage can be adjusted at any time


Q. Does System Restore support scripting?
A. Yes. System Restore parameters are configurable remotely or locally by
using a Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI) script. A WMI script can
also be used to create restore points, list them, select a restore point to
restore to, and view the status of a restore operation.

Q. What does Windows XP Service Pack (SP1) do for System Restore?
A. The service pack provides several security and bug fixes for the Windows
XP operating system including those for System Restore. Highlights of the key
fixes for System Restore in the service pack include:

• Fixes the issue where System Restore does not launch and displays the
error "System restore was unable to start due to a missing Framedyn.dll.
Please reinstall the application to fix this problem"

• Fixes the issue where the System Restore tool on a Windows XP-based
computer and the calendar on the left side of the "Choose a Restore Point"
window is not displayed

• Fixes the restore process issue where users were encountering failed
restores. Although some of this is attributed to file corruption in the
System Restore data store, in many cases it was due to locked file issues (a
file which system restore couldn't access cause it was locked out by another
application or process) causing the restore process to fail, notably in
situations where fast user switching was used

• Fixes the drive table inconsistency causing System Restore to not create
restore points

• Several Security fixes for System Restore to protect against hackers and
viruses


The Microsoft System Restore team supports users in the Microsoft public
newsgroups (please visit Public.WindowsXP.perform_maintain and
Microsoft.Public.WindowsXP.help_and_support) and encourages user feedback
regarding the effectiveness of Windows XP Service Pack 1.

Q. Will the installation of Windows XP Service Pack 1 remove previous
restore points?
A. No. All previous restore points can be restored after the installation.

Q.
A.

How-To Guide
Q. How can I enable or disable System Restore?
A. Select Start followed by Control Panel, and double-click the System icon.
Then:

1.
Click the System Restore tab on the System dialog box

2.
To enable, clear the Turn off System Restore check box

3.
To disable, select the Turn off System Restore check box

4.
Click OK when done


Q. How can I disable System Restore from monitoring a particular drive?
A. To disable System Restore from monitoring a particular drive, click Start
followed by Control Panel and double click the System icon. Then click on the
System Restore tab on the System dialog box. Depending on your disk setup,
use the following instructions:

• Single partition: Clear the Turn off system restore check box to disable
System Restore.

• Multiple disks or partitions: To prevent System Restore from monitoring a
particular partition, click on the drive to disable and then the settings
option. Clear the Turn off System Restore check box to disable monitoring the
drive in question. You cannot disable monitoring of the system drive
explicitly; you must disable System Restore for the entire system to prevent
system drive monitoring.


Q. How can I set the amount of space System Restore uses on my disk?
A. Select Start, then Control Panel and double-click the System icon. Then
click on the System Restore tab on the dialog box. Depending on your disk
setup, do the following:

• Single partition: Adjust the space system restore uses on the disk by
moving the slider left to decrease space usage, or right to increase space
usage. The default maximum space usage is 12%.

• Multiple partitions or multiple disks: Click on the drive you want to
adjust in the available drives section on the System Restore page and then
click the settings option. You can then adjust the space system restore uses
on that drive by moving the slider to the left to decrease space usage, or
right to increase space usage. The default maximum space usage is 12%. Repeat
for each drive as necessary.


Q. How do I determine the amount of space System Restore uses for restore
points?
A. To determine the amount of space System Restore is using:

1.
Click on Start, then My Computer

2.
Select the Tools pull-down menu, click on Folder Options, and then select
the View tab

3.
In the Advanced settings option under Hidden files and folders, select Show
hidden files and folders and clear the Hide protected operating system files
check box, then Click OK

4.
Refer to the system drive where Windows is installed (C: for most users)

5.
Double-click the System Volume Information folder

6.
Right-click on the _restore directory and select Properties

7.
The Size on Disk value is the amount of space System Restore is using for
restore points

8.
Repeat as necessary for other drives monitored by System Restore


If the computer is part of a domain and you do not have access to the System
Volume Information folder, perform these additional steps following Step 4
above:

• Right-click the System Volume Information folder and click the Properties
option

• Select the Security tab and add your username to the user/group list with
access to this folder

• Click OK and continue with Step 5 above


Q. How do I delete restore points in System Restore?
A. You can either delete all restore points except the latest one, or all
the restore points

• To delete all restore points except the latest one, use the Disk Cleanup
utility. Click Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, and then Disk
Cleanup. Click on the more options tab and then select Clean up in the System
Restore dialog box.

• To delete all the restore points on your computer, disable and re-enable
system restore on the system. Click Start, Control Panel, and then the System
icon. Click on the System Restore tab in the dialog box, select the Turn off
System Restore check box, and click Apply. Clear the check box again to
re-enable System Restore and then click OK.

• You can reduce the number of restore points saved by decreasing the total
amount of disk space available to System Restore. Note that less available
disk space will decrease the relative number of restore points.



Q. How do I remotely perform a system restore?
A. You can perform a remote system restore using WMI scripts.

Q.
A.

Troubleshooting
Q. What should I do if System Restore does not work?
A. Try these steps if System Restore does not appear to work:

1.
Ensure the System Restore service is running. For more information, see:
How can I verify that the System Restore services are running on my machine?

2.
Verify that you have enough free space on all your drives as required by
System Restore. If the free space on any partition system restore is
monitoring falls below 50 MB, System Restore will suspend and purge out all
restore points to free up disk space. It will automatically reactivate when
200 MB+ free space is available. For more information, see How the System
Restore Tool Handles Hard-Disk Space Usage.

3.
Examine event logs for any system restore-related errors that could help
you identify the problem.


Q. Why is System Restore suspended enough free space on the system drive
exists?
A. Suspension can occur if:

• A non-system drive with System Restore enabled has less than 50 MB of free
disk space

• A copy, delete, modify operation was made to a file monitored by System
Restore. This typically causes System Restore to suspend across the system.


Q. When using System Restore, I receive the following message: 'System
restore was unable to start due to a missing Framedyn.dll. Please reinstall
the application to fix this problem'. How do I fix this?
A. This event usually occurs when the Windows path is corrupt. To resolve
this issue, begin by installing Windows XP Service Pack 1. Alternatively, you
can temporarily address this issue by copying the framedyn.dll file from the
\windows\system32\wbem directory to the \windows\system32 directory. If you
cannot locate the .dll file in the …\Wbem folder, see Why can't I see system
files such as .dll or .inf in Windows?

Q. Why isn't System Restore creating automatic system checkpoints?
A. Typical reasons why checkpoints are not being created:

• System Restore requires Task Scheduler to create system checkpoints. If
Task Scheduler is disabled it will prevent System Restore from creating
system checkpoints on a scheduled basis.

• System Restore requires the computer to be in an idle state to create
system checkpoints. This is by design so that System Restore does not
interrupt a user by taking processing power. If computer is never idle,
system checkpoints cannot be created. Also, check for any applications that
run on the computer during idle periods, such as a virus scanner.

• Another cause may be that the computer is in continual use for limited
periods and then shut down or put into hibernation, preventing System Restore
from creating restore points.


Q. Why are my restore points missing or deleted?
A. If no free disk space on monitored system drive or on any of the
available non-system drives exists, System Restore will purge restore points
consistently across all monitored partitions to free disk space. If the free
disk space falls below 50 MB on any monitored partition, System Restore will
stop monitoring and suspend.

Note: Some users have reported that using the Real Player One utility has
deleted restore points. Please review your System Event Viewer log for System
Restore events for a volume error event. For more information, please visit
the Microsoft.Public.WindowsXP.perform_maintain and
Microsoft.Public.WindowsXP.help_and_support.



Q. Why does the System Restore Wizard lockup when trying to create a restore
point?
A. This can occur if the event log service is disabled on the computer. The
user should enable the event log service and then try to create the restore
point. To verify that the service is working, do the following:

1.
Click Start, Control Panel, then Performance and Maintenance

2.
Click Administrative Tools, Computer Management, then Services and
Applications

3.
Click Services, then Event Log Services. Ensure this service is set to
Automatic and the status is Started


Q. Why do I lose my Remote Assistance session after using System Restore?
A. If you restore to a point before the Remote Assistance Ticket creation,
the HelpAssistant account password is reset. The HelpAssistant account is the
account that an administrator uses to log on and connect to a computer. This
issue has been resolved in Windows XP Service Pack 1. If the service pack is
unavailable, use Remote Assistance to create another ticket.

Q. Why are previous restore points not working?
A. Possible causes for restore point failures:

• Low free disk space on a System Restore monitored partition. Every restore
process involves System Restore creating a restore point prior to the restore
operation so that the user can undo the restore process. If you are
experiencing failed restores, ensure that there is sufficient free disk space
available on all the System Restore monitored partitions.

• During the restore process, files to be replaced, moved, or deleted by
System Restore are locked by the system or some application causing the
restore to fail. This issue has been addressed in Windows XP Service Pack 1.

• A corrupt restore point possibly caused by an inconsistency between the
file entries in the System Restores file change log and those that are
actually backed up or tracked by System Restore. Common causes for this issue:

• An improper shutdown of the computer occurred while System Restore was
adding an entry for a file to the System Restore change log for tracking.
During the process of the file being copied or moved to the restore point
directory or elsewhere in the system, a power outage or improper shutdown may
have corrupted the process, creating an inconsistency in the change log.
Similarly, an entry for the file exists in the change log but the file itself
may be corrupt or missing.

• Changes made to files on a system from another OS (in case of dual-boot OS
scenarios). For example, changes to a key application or system files or
simply moving a file System Restore was tracking from one location to another
while logged onto a different OS. As System Restore cannot incorporate this
change, an inconsistency exists.

• Changes made to a System Restore tracked file on a removable drive for a
restore point while the drive was connected to another computer. Similar to
the above, System Restore cannot incorporate this change. It is important to
note that all restore points are linked, therefore, any restore point created
prior to the missing or corrupt restore point will also not function.



For more information, please visit Microsoft public newsgroups
Microsoft.Public.WindowsXP.perform_maintain and
Microsoft.Public.WindowsXP.help_and_support.

Q. What should I do if my anti-virus scanner cannot access the System Volume
Information folder to remove a virus?
A. If the System Volume Information (SVI) folder is on a FAT partition and a
virus infected file has been detected or copied to the data store before it
was cleaned, the data store needs to be purged to remove the Restore Point
with the infected file. To do this, the user should disable and then
re-enable System Restore monitoring on that particular drive as specified in
How can I disable System Restore from monitoring a particular drive? If the
System Volume Information Folder is on an NTFS partition, the SVI directory
can be accessed by a virus utility to clean an infected file as any other
part of the file system.

Q. Microsoft support is asking me to generate a .cab file for system
restore. How do I do this?
A. To generate a system restore Cab file:

1.
Click Start, then Run

2.
Type or paste: %windir%\system32\restore\srdiag.exe and click OK

3.
A command window will open while the Srdiag.exe runs. The command session
will automatically close when complete, and the .cab file will be created in
your Windows\system32\restore directory. This can take several minutes.


Q. How do I look at the event logs to investigate any system restore errors?
A. To check event logs:

1.
Click Start, Control Panel, then Performance and Maintenance

2.
Click Administrative Tools, Computer Management, double-click Event Viewer,
then click System

3.
Click the Source tab to sort by name, and then type for "sr" or
"srservice." Double-click each of these services, and then evaluate the event
description for the cause of the problem.


Q. Why is System Restore displaying duplicate drives with an offline status?
A. This problem can occur if you convert the disk from a basic disk to a
dynamic disk.

Q. Why isn't desktop wallpaper restored when using System Restore?
A. The image displayed on the desktop is a common image file and therefore
not monitored by System Restore. System Restore does not restore common image
files, as they could compromise the security of personal dat

Q. Why isn't the compression on files or folders restored when using System
Restore?
A. By design, System Restore does not record changes in compression, nor
does it undo them, as changes in compression do not cause the system to fail.

Q. Why aren't System Restore settings preserved during a reinstallation or
upgrade?
A. Setup overwrites the existing settings so that System Restore is enabled
after installation. In operating systems in which System Restore is not
included, such as Microsoft Windows 95, Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft
Windows NT Workstation, or Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional, System
Restore will also be enabled by default on all drives.

Q. How can I verify that the System Restore services are running on my
computer?
A. Use the following procedure:

• To verify that System Restore services are running from Control Panel:

1.
Click Start, Control Panel, then Performance and Maintenance

2.
Click Administrative Tools, Computer Management, then Services and
Applications.

3.
Click Services, and then click System Restore Services. Ensure the service
is set to Automatic and the status is Started


• To verify that System Restore services are running using the command prompt:

1.
Click Start, Run, then type CMD in the control box

2.
Press Enter, then type Net Start at the command prompt



Q. How can I verify that the Task Scheduler is running on my computer?
A. Use the following procedure:

• To verify that Task Scheduler is running from Control Panel:

1.
Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click "Performance and
Maintenance".

2.
Click Administrative Tools, click Computer Management, and then click
Services and Applications.

3.
Click Services, then Task Scheduler service to ensure the Service is set to
Automatic and the status is Started


• To verify that Task Scheduler is running using the command prompt:

1.
Click Start, Run, then type CMD in the control box

2.
Press Enter, then type Net Start at the command prompt to ensure that the
Task Scheduler service is running



Q. Why can't I see system files such as .dll or .inf in Windows?
A. Windows hides all system files and files marked hidden by default. To
view these files:

1.
Click Start, then My Computer

2.
From the toolbar open the Tools menu, select Folder Options, then click the
View tab

3.
In the Advanced settings option for Hidden files and folders, ensure the
Show hidden files and folders option is selected and Hide protected operating
system files is unchecked. Click OK

4.
You should now be able to see hidden and system files


Q.
A.

Additional Information
Q. Where can I get more information about System Restore architecture and
SDK information?
A. For System Restore architecture, see the MSDN white paper Microsoft
Windows XP System Restore. For SDK information, see the SDK document System
Restore.

Q.
A.

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"aksz" wrote:

>
> hi i just recently set my maximum system restore point to 3gb as it was
> previously draining alot of memory from my laptop. I have 10gb of music
> and i was wondering how much gb would i need to set my maximum restore
> point to to make sure all my files are protected? does my vista system
> restore save my files and music and how exactly does it work? Could
> someone please get back to me.
>
>
> --
> aksz
>

"aksz" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> hi i just recently set my maximum system restore point to 3gb as it was
> previously draining alot of memory from my laptop. I have 10gb of music
> and i was wondering how much gb would i need to set my maximum restore
> point to to make sure all my files are protected? does my vista system
> restore save my files and music and how exactly does it work? Could
> someone please get back to me.
>
>
> --
> aksz


While others are arguing their respective points, take a look here..

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...e79e51033.mspx


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Thank you all for the help. the reply was so quick i am shocked. I was
expecting the replys to be within a day or 2. I emailed microsoft and
others and they could not give me a direct anwer. Thank you all. just
one more question. I am a basic computer user and i was wondering do i
really need to store my maximum restore point at more than 3gb? It is
currently at 3 gb.

Once again thanks for the replies


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"Brontosaurus Burger AKA Vista!" wrote:

> Vista has changed the way system restore works!
>
> Vista has shadow copy also known as (older versions)
>
> see demo
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...2aea51033.mspx

I used the demo. There is no "restore to earlier" or whatever. I think
that's because it isn't in Vista Home Premium doesn't have that feature.
> that keeps track of all files, personal files too....
>

"aksz" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Thank you all for the help. the reply was so quick i am shocked. I was
> expecting the replys to be within a day or 2. I emailed microsoft and
> others and they could not give me a direct anwer. Thank you all. just
> one more question. I am a basic computer user and i was wondering do i
> really need to store my maximum restore point at more than 3gb? It is
> currently at 3 gb.
>
> Once again thanks for the replies
>
>
> --
> aksz


That depends on how many restore points you want to keep. Generally, the
last good one created is enough..


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aksz;1096794 Wrote:
> Thank you all for the help. the reply was so quick i am shocked. I was
> expecting the replys to be within a day or 2. I emailed microsoft and
> others and they could not give me a direct anwer. Thank you all. just
> one more question. I am a basic computer user and i was wondering do i
> really need to store my maximum restore point at more than 3gb? It is
> currently at 3 gb.
>
> Once again thanks for the replies
>
>
> --
> aksz

The answer by Brontosaurus Burger is correct in that system restore
seems to store a version retreval of user files, even if they are not
accessible easily to the lower home versions. This adds to the space
required for system restore and is really not very clever of MS to
combine these two (system restore and user file version history). That
is how it seems to be though, so I would recommend using the default
space to allow several restore points to be stored - they are deleted as
space is used.

Vista help states:

"To store restore points, you need at least 300 megabytes (MB) of free
space on each hark disk that has System Protection turned on. System
Restore might use up to 15 percent of the space on each disk. As the
amount of space fills up with restore points, System Restore will
delete older restore points to make room for new ones."

So 3GB is reasonable on a 20GB disk. I would want at least this.


In any event you should have a proper external device backup of your
files.


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