System Restore Points without shadow copy - there has got to be a way!!

Hi,

I've considering getting a small notebook with a 48 GB Solid State disk, but
it only comes with Vista Business. With that little HD space, I really
cannot spare 7-8 GB for Shadow Copies. Frankly, I do not need shadow copies
of my regular files, but I do need system restore points (they have saved my
rear-end more than once in XP). I know that I can shrink the space used for
shadow copies, but I would like for whatever space I allocate to be used for
System Restore Points only - not for backup of user files.

Does anyone know of a way to have "XP-like" System Restore Points in Vista
without Shadow Copy of user files?

Thanks,
Larry

The answer is to disable System Restore and VSS then use a 3rd party disk
imaging program with an external USB hard drive. AFAIK System Restore in
Vista cannot be made to work the way you want it to.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Larry" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi,
>
> I've considering getting a small notebook with a 48 GB Solid State disk,
> but it only comes with Vista Business. With that little HD space, I
> really cannot spare 7-8 GB for Shadow Copies. Frankly, I do not need
> shadow copies of my regular files, but I do need system restore points
> (they have saved my rear-end more than once in XP). I know that I can
> shrink the space used for shadow copies, but I would like for whatever
> space I allocate to be used for System Restore Points only - not for
> backup of user files.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to have "XP-like" System Restore Points in Vista
> without Shadow Copy of user files?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
>
>

>> I've considering getting a small notebook with a 48 GB Solid State disk,
>> but it only comes with Vista Business. With that little HD space, I
>> really cannot spare 7-8 GB for Shadow Copies. Frankly, I do not need
>> shadow copies of my regular files, but I do need system restore points
>> (they have saved my rear-end more than once in XP). I know that I can
>> shrink the space used for shadow copies, but I would like for whatever
>> space I allocate to be used for System Restore Points only - not for
>> backup of user files.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to have "XP-like" System Restore Points in
>> Vista without Shadow Copy of user files?

"Kerry Brown" <*a*m> wrote in message
news:87E30C30-0156-43CC-B042-...
> The answer is to disable System Restore and VSS then use a 3rd party disk
> imaging program with an external USB hard drive. AFAIK System Restore in
> Vista cannot be made to work the way you want it to.

I was afraid that would be the answer... I guess I'll give Ghost a shot.

Thanks,
Larry

make sure you use a Vista compatible version. Older versions of Ghost are
not Vista compatible.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Larry" <> wrote in message
news:...
>>> I've considering getting a small notebook with a 48 GB Solid State disk,
>>> but it only comes with Vista Business. With that little HD space, I
>>> really cannot spare 7-8 GB for Shadow Copies. Frankly, I do not need
>>> shadow copies of my regular files, but I do need system restore points
>>> (they have saved my rear-end more than once in XP). I know that I can
>>> shrink the space used for shadow copies, but I would like for whatever
>>> space I allocate to be used for System Restore Points only - not for
>>> backup of user files.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of a way to have "XP-like" System Restore Points in
>>> Vista without Shadow Copy of user files?
>
> "Kerry Brown" <*a*m> wrote in message
> news:87E30C30-0156-43CC-B042-...
>> The answer is to disable System Restore and VSS then use a 3rd party disk
>> imaging program with an external USB hard drive. AFAIK System Restore in
>> Vista cannot be made to work the way you want it to.
>
> I was afraid that would be the answer... I guess I'll give Ghost a shot.
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
>

>> I've considering getting a small notebook with a 48 GB Solid State disk,
>> but it only comes with Vista Business. With that little HD space, I
>> really cannot spare 7-8 GB for Shadow Copies. Frankly, I do not need
>> shadow copies of my regular files, but I do need system restore points
>> (they have saved my rear-end more than once in XP). I know that I can
>> shrink the space used for shadow copies, but I would like for whatever
>> space I allocate to be used for System Restore Points only - not for
>> backup of user files.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to have "XP-like" System Restore Points in
>> Vista without Shadow Copy of user files?

> The answer is to disable System Restore and VSS then use a 3rd party disk
> imaging program with an external USB hard drive. AFAIK System Restore in
> Vista cannot be made to work the way you want it to.

I was afraid that would be the anwer. Nice going Microsoft...

Thanks for your reply (and sorry for the delay...),
Larry

System Restore in Vista works much better than System restore in XP. It is a
much more robust system less prone to corruption. You are trying to run
Vista on quite unusual hardware. Whatever OS you use on that hardware you
will have to make compromises.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Larry" <> wrote in message
news:...
>>> I've considering getting a small notebook with a 48 GB Solid State disk,
>>> but it only comes with Vista Business. With that little HD space, I
>>> really cannot spare 7-8 GB for Shadow Copies. Frankly, I do not need
>>> shadow copies of my regular files, but I do need system restore points
>>> (they have saved my rear-end more than once in XP). I know that I can
>>> shrink the space used for shadow copies, but I would like for whatever
>>> space I allocate to be used for System Restore Points only - not for
>>> backup of user files.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of a way to have "XP-like" System Restore Points in
>>> Vista without Shadow Copy of user files?
>
>> The answer is to disable System Restore and VSS then use a 3rd party disk
>> imaging program with an external USB hard drive. AFAIK System Restore in
>> Vista cannot be made to work the way you want it to.
>
> I was afraid that would be the anwer. Nice going Microsoft...
>
> Thanks for your reply (and sorry for the delay...),
> Larry
>
>

Yeah, but, if it's the system I think it is, it's worth the compromises. It
is FAST, yet very small, and with an outstanding screen and keyboard --
especially for a subnotebook.

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> System Restore in Vista works much better than System restore in XP. It is a
> much more robust system less prone to corruption. You are trying to run
> Vista on quite unusual hardware. Whatever OS you use on that hardware you
> will have to make compromises.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "Larry" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> >>> I've considering getting a small notebook with a 48 GB Solid State disk,
> >>> but it only comes with Vista Business. With that little HD space, I
> >>> really cannot spare 7-8 GB for Shadow Copies. Frankly, I do not need
> >>> shadow copies of my regular files, but I do need system restore points
> >>> (they have saved my rear-end more than once in XP). I know that I can
> >>> shrink the space used for shadow copies, but I would like for whatever
> >>> space I allocate to be used for System Restore Points only - not for
> >>> backup of user files.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know of a way to have "XP-like" System Restore Points in
> >>> Vista without Shadow Copy of user files?
> >
> >> The answer is to disable System Restore and VSS then use a 3rd party disk
> >> imaging program with an external USB hard drive. AFAIK System Restore in
> >> Vista cannot be made to work the way you want it to.
> >
> > I was afraid that would be the anwer. Nice going Microsoft...
> >
> > Thanks for your reply (and sorry for the delay...),
> > Larry
> >
> >
>

I like the idea of systems like this. I could use one myself.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"jimmuh" <> wrote in message
news:27D23C28-82F1-43E1-AE02-...
> Yeah, but, if it's the system I think it is, it's worth the compromises.
> It
> is FAST, yet very small, and with an outstanding screen and keyboard --
> especially for a subnotebook.
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> System Restore in Vista works much better than System restore in XP. It
>> is a
>> much more robust system less prone to corruption. You are trying to run
>> Vista on quite unusual hardware. Whatever OS you use on that hardware you
>> will have to make compromises.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "Larry" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> >>> I've considering getting a small notebook with a 48 GB Solid State
>> >>> disk,
>> >>> but it only comes with Vista Business. With that little HD space, I
>> >>> really cannot spare 7-8 GB for Shadow Copies. Frankly, I do not need
>> >>> shadow copies of my regular files, but I do need system restore
>> >>> points
>> >>> (they have saved my rear-end more than once in XP). I know that I
>> >>> can
>> >>> shrink the space used for shadow copies, but I would like for
>> >>> whatever
>> >>> space I allocate to be used for System Restore Points only - not for
>> >>> backup of user files.
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone know of a way to have "XP-like" System Restore Points in
>> >>> Vista without Shadow Copy of user files?
>> >
>> >> The answer is to disable System Restore and VSS then use a 3rd party
>> >> disk
>> >> imaging program with an external USB hard drive. AFAIK System Restore
>> >> in
>> >> Vista cannot be made to work the way you want it to.
>> >
>> > I was afraid that would be the anwer. Nice going Microsoft...
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply (and sorry for the delay...),
>> > Larry
>> >
>> >
>>

Another way you might go -- you might just consider doing without System
Restore altogether under Vista. It's not something I'd recommend ordinarily,
but I've been running Vista very heavily on a half dozen systems since RTM,
without once having to resort to System Restore. Heck, even if you do have a
system failure, installing Vista is FAST (compared, say, to WinXP). As long
as you keep your data backed up you should be fine -- unless you make really,
really bad choices about what you install on the system. I use these Vista
systems for testing software, some of it pretty attrocious. And not one time
have I needed SR.

"Larry" wrote:

> >> I've considering getting a small notebook with a 48 GB Solid State disk,
> >> but it only comes with Vista Business. With that little HD space, I
> >> really cannot spare 7-8 GB for Shadow Copies. Frankly, I do not need
> >> shadow copies of my regular files, but I do need system restore points
> >> (they have saved my rear-end more than once in XP). I know that I can
> >> shrink the space used for shadow copies, but I would like for whatever
> >> space I allocate to be used for System Restore Points only - not for
> >> backup of user files.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of a way to have "XP-like" System Restore Points in
> >> Vista without Shadow Copy of user files?
>
> > The answer is to disable System Restore and VSS then use a 3rd party disk
> > imaging program with an external USB hard drive. AFAIK System Restore in
> > Vista cannot be made to work the way you want it to.
>
> I was afraid that would be the anwer. Nice going Microsoft...
>
> Thanks for your reply (and sorry for the delay...),
> Larry
>
>
>

Me, too. But spouse says I have to wait until one of my two notebooks dies.

Hmmm...



"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> I like the idea of systems like this. I could use one myself.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "jimmuh" <> wrote in message
> news:27D23C28-82F1-43E1-AE02-...
> > Yeah, but, if it's the system I think it is, it's worth the compromises.
> > It
> > is FAST, yet very small, and with an outstanding screen and keyboard --
> > especially for a subnotebook.
> >
> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
> >
> >> System Restore in Vista works much better than System restore in XP. It
> >> is a
> >> much more robust system less prone to corruption. You are trying to run
> >> Vista on quite unusual hardware. Whatever OS you use on that hardware you
> >> will have to make compromises.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kerry Brown
> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca
> >>
> >>
> >> "Larry" <> wrote in message
> >> news:...
> >> >>> I've considering getting a small notebook with a 48 GB Solid State
> >> >>> disk,
> >> >>> but it only comes with Vista Business. With that little HD space, I
> >> >>> really cannot spare 7-8 GB for Shadow Copies. Frankly, I do not need
> >> >>> shadow copies of my regular files, but I do need system restore
> >> >>> points
> >> >>> (they have saved my rear-end more than once in XP). I know that I
> >> >>> can
> >> >>> shrink the space used for shadow copies, but I would like for
> >> >>> whatever
> >> >>> space I allocate to be used for System Restore Points only - not for
> >> >>> backup of user files.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Does anyone know of a way to have "XP-like" System Restore Points in
> >> >>> Vista without Shadow Copy of user files?
> >> >
> >> >> The answer is to disable System Restore and VSS then use a 3rd party
> >> >> disk
> >> >> imaging program with an external USB hard drive. AFAIK System Restore
> >> >> in
> >> >> Vista cannot be made to work the way you want it to.
> >> >
> >> > I was afraid that would be the anwer. Nice going Microsoft...
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your reply (and sorry for the delay...),
> >> > Larry
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>