task manager anomaly

64-bit Vista Home Premium

I've noticed that task manager does not appear to show me all the processes
that are actually running. The number of processes as displayed on the
program's status bar is invariably larger than the number of processes
actually shown.

Is there some way to reveal ALL the processes that Vista says is running?

Tom

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Tom Hall <> wrote:

>64-bit Vista Home Premium
>
>I've noticed that task manager does not appear to show me all the processes
>that are actually running. The number of processes as displayed on the
>program's status bar is invariably larger than the number of processes
>actually shown.
>
>Is there some way to reveal ALL the processes that Vista says is running?

Tick the box "Show processes from all users".

And keep in mind that things like svchost.exe can compromise a number of
processes within a thread.

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"Bill Daggett" <> wrote in message
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> Tom Hall <> wrote:
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>>64-bit Vista Home Premium
>>
>>I've noticed that task manager does not appear to show me all the
>>processes
>>that are actually running. The number of processes as displayed on the
>>program's status bar is invariably larger than the number of processes
>>actually shown.
>>
>>Is there some way to reveal ALL the processes that Vista says is running?
>
> Tick the box "Show processes from all users".

"Rick Rogers" <> wrote:

>And keep in mind that things like svchost.exe can compromise a number of
>processes within a thread.

Comprise. "Compromise" plays into the hands of the trolls :-)

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:24:18 -0500, Bill Daggett wrote:

> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote:
>
>>And keep in mind that things like svchost.exe can compromise a number of
>>processes within a thread.
>
> Comprise. "Compromise" plays into the hands of the trolls :-)

OK, here's a compromise (I had to use that word!): the OP could try Process
Explorer, a free program downloadable from Microsoft, which is *very*
thorough.

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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:40:24 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" <not->
wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:24:18 -0500, Bill Daggett wrote:
>
>> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote:
>>
>>>And keep in mind that things like svchost.exe can compromise a number of
>>>processes within a thread.
>>
>> Comprise. "Compromise" plays into the hands of the trolls :-)
>
>OK, here's a compromise (I had to use that word!): the OP could try Process
>Explorer, a free program downloadable from Microsoft, which is *very*
>thorough.

Quite right - and thank you for reminding me about this, because I used it
on my XP machine for years.

The only problem now is, the .chm file that comes with the program is not
usable. Is there a way of converting the .chm to a format that 64-bit Vista
Home Premium can read?


Tom

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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607

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"Tom Hall" <> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:40:24 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" <not->
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:24:18 -0500, Bill Daggett wrote:
>>
>>> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>And keep in mind that things like svchost.exe can compromise a number of
>>>>processes within a thread.
>>>
>>> Comprise. "Compromise" plays into the hands of the trolls :-)
>>
>>OK, here's a compromise (I had to use that word!): the OP could try
>>Process
>>Explorer, a free program downloadable from Microsoft, which is *very*
>>thorough.
>
> Quite right - and thank you for reminding me about this, because I used it
> on my XP machine for years.
>
> The only problem now is, the .chm file that comes with the program is not
> usable. Is there a way of converting the .chm to a format that 64-bit
> Vista
> Home Premium can read?
>
>
> Tom
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:22:17 -0500, "DaveD" <> wrote:

>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607

After going through the validation process I downloaded both x64 and x86
versions, and in each case when I tried to run the installer I got "this
update does not apply to your system".

I also note that the article you referred me to talked about .hlp files,
not .chm files.


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I get the same message when trying to reinstall it on my system.
Perhaps you already have it. (Scan for winhlp32.exe to find out.)

After replying to your email, I did some checking and found that the .chm
files are opened by hh.exe, not by winhlp32.exe

According to MS, hh.exe is included with Vista.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb757030.aspx

I'm afraid that's all I know.

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"Tom Hall" <> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:22:17 -0500, "DaveD" <> wrote:
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>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
>
> After going through the validation process I downloaded both x64 and x86
> versions, and in each case when I tried to run the installer I got "this
> update does not apply to your system".
>
> I also note that the article you referred me to talked about .hlp files,
> not .chm files.
>
>
> Tom
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:11:29 -0500, "DaveD" <> wrote:

>
>I get the same message when trying to reinstall it on my system.
>Perhaps you already have it. (Scan for winhlp32.exe to find out.)
>
>After replying to your email, I did some checking and found that the .chm
>files are opened by hh.exe, not by winhlp32.exe
>
>According to MS, hh.exe is included with Vista.
>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb757030.aspx
>
>I'm afraid that's all I know.

Yes, I've found hh.exe here - in several places actually - but its presence
doesn't seem to affect the unreadability of the chm file.

Actually, I should probably amend that statement. Technically, the file IS
actually opened, but all that is displayed is a window that says
"navigation to the web page was cancelled", "what you can do is: retype the
address".

Interesting that such a problem should occur with a Microsoft program on a
Microsoft operating system... :-)


Tom

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