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Ron P
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      05-06-2007
Is there any way to get Windows Live Messenger to send email via Outlook
Express instead of Hotmail and to not use Internet Explorer when the Help
button is clicked? IE is not my default browser and I don't like Hotmail.

Thank you.

 
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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      05-07-2007
Greetings Ron,

Messenger will go to Hotmail if you're using a @hotmail.com or @msn.com Passport.

Anything other than the links in conversations will take you to Internet Explorer as these
are Microsoft sites and the experience is supposed to be consistent.

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Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
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"Ron P" <> wrote in message news:uQ3W0N%...
> Is there any way to get Windows Live Messenger to send email via Outlook Express instead of
> Hotmail and to not use Internet Explorer when the Help button is clicked? IE is not my
> default browser and I don't like Hotmail.
>
> Thank you.



 
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Ron P
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      05-07-2007
Thanks. I was afraid of that.

I have just about "retired" the use of IE and I never did like Hotmail so I
guess that I will have to find something other than WLM.


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"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
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> Greetings Ron,
>
> Messenger will go to Hotmail if you're using a @hotmail.com or @msn.com
> Passport.
>
> Anything other than the links in conversations will take you to Internet
> Explorer as these are Microsoft sites and the experience is supposed to be
> consistent.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
> "Ron P" <> wrote in message
> news:uQ3W0N%...
>> Is there any way to get Windows Live Messenger to send email via Outlook
>> Express instead of Hotmail and to not use Internet Explorer when the Help
>> button is clicked? IE is not my default browser and I don't like Hotmail.
>>
>> Thank you.

>
>


 
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      05-07-2007
Hi Jonathan,

> Anything other than the links in conversations will take you to Internet
> Explorer as these are Microsoft sites and the experience is supposed to be
> consistent.


So what about machines that have windows without Internet Explorer
installed, does the messenger just crash?

AFAIK, and forgive me if I am wrong, but I do believe that there are
versions of XP that do *not* have Internet Explorer isntalled.

Best protocol would be to use the default system browser, which would
go along with the behaviour of pretty much any software on the system.

Nick.


 
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      05-07-2007
"NickP" <> wrote in message
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> Hi Jonathan,
>
>> Anything other than the links in conversations will take you to Internet
>> Explorer as these are Microsoft sites and the experience is supposed to
>> be consistent.

>
> So what about machines that have windows without Internet Explorer
> installed, does the messenger just crash?
>
> AFAIK, and forgive me if I am wrong, but I do believe that there are
> versions of XP that do *not* have Internet Explorer isntalled.
>
> Best protocol would be to use the default system browser, which would
> go along with the behaviour of pretty much any software on the system.
>
> Nick.


I agree that the default system browser should be used. I just don't buy the
Microsoft argument that the "experience is supposed to be consistent." I
find the new interface of Vista lousy. It appears to be someone's idea of
style taking precedence over practicality and functionality. I haven't
bought Vista yet and it will be a long time before I do unless equipment
failure forces the issue.

 
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NickP
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      05-07-2007
Hi Ron,

> I agree that the default system browser should be used. I just don't buy
> the Microsoft argument that the "experience is supposed to be consistent."
> I find the new interface of Vista lousy. It appears to be someone's idea
> of style taking precedence over practicality and functionality. I haven't
> bought Vista yet and it will be a long time before I do unless equipment
> failure forces the issue.


Exactly right. Vista is probably more likely to cause equipment failure
than anything else.

I've been using it for a while and there are some really annoying bugs,
and rather fundamental issues too, like it fails to write to the hard disk
so you have to keep pressing retry until it works. The UAC is another
issue, monumental c*ck up of an OS if you ask me...

Nick.


 
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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      05-08-2007
Hi Nick,

It probably wouldn't crash, just not do anything or spawn an error message.

There are no Microsoft versions of Windows XP that do not have Internet Explorer. Yes you
can disable it, but it's still there and accessible. IE and its rendering engine are used
all over the place in Windows and other Microsoft products -- simply "removing it" really
isn't an option.

http:// links in Messenger still go your default browser, it's just Microsoft services and
the help system that don't.

BTW, specifically for the Hotmail integration, you can make it go to the default browser in
the system by using StuffPlug:
http://www.stuffplug.com

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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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"NickP" <> wrote in message news:%23f97$...
> Hi Jonathan,
>
>> Anything other than the links in conversations will take you to Internet Explorer as these
>> are Microsoft sites and the experience is supposed to be consistent.

>
> So what about machines that have windows without Internet Explorer installed, does the
> messenger just crash?
>
> AFAIK, and forgive me if I am wrong, but I do believe that there are versions of XP that
> do *not* have Internet Explorer isntalled.
>
> Best protocol would be to use the default system browser, which would go along with the
> behaviour of pretty much any software on the system.
>
> Nick.
>



 
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NickP
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      05-08-2007
Hi Jonathan,

My appologuies, I thought there was a version of XP available on MSDN
that did not have internet explorer? Although off of the top of my head I
can't remember what the code was that is suffixed to the product name. I
wouldn't have expected Microsoft to remove the underlying core, just the IE
interface, which of course is easily done.

Nick.

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
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> Hi Nick,
>
> It probably wouldn't crash, just not do anything or spawn an error
> message.
>
> There are no Microsoft versions of Windows XP that do not have Internet
> Explorer. Yes you can disable it, but it's still there and accessible.
> IE and its rendering engine are used all over the place in Windows and
> other Microsoft products -- simply "removing it" really isn't an option.
>
> http:// links in Messenger still go your default browser, it's just
> Microsoft services and the help system that don't.
>
> BTW, specifically for the Hotmail integration, you can make it go to the
> default browser in the system by using StuffPlug:
> http://www.stuffplug.com
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
>
>
> "NickP" <> wrote in message
> news:%23f97$...
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>>> Anything other than the links in conversations will take you to Internet
>>> Explorer as these are Microsoft sites and the experience is supposed to
>>> be consistent.

>>
>> So what about machines that have windows without Internet Explorer
>> installed, does the messenger just crash?
>>
>> AFAIK, and forgive me if I am wrong, but I do believe that there are
>> versions of XP that do *not* have Internet Explorer isntalled.
>>
>> Best protocol would be to use the default system browser, which would
>> go along with the behaviour of pretty much any software on the system.
>>
>> Nick.
>>

>
>



 
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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      05-09-2007
Hi Nick,

I think you're thinking of the 'N' versions which don't include Media Player.

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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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"NickP" <> wrote in message news:%...
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> My appologuies, I thought there was a version of XP available on MSDN that did not have
> internet explorer? Although off of the top of my head I can't remember what the code was
> that is suffixed to the product name. I wouldn't have expected Microsoft to remove the
> underlying core, just the IE interface, which of course is easily done.
>
> Nick.
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:F409EA81-9FD1-4E52-A0EE-...
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> It probably wouldn't crash, just not do anything or spawn an error message.
>>
>> There are no Microsoft versions of Windows XP that do not have Internet Explorer. Yes you
>> can disable it, but it's still there and accessible. IE and its rendering engine are used
>> all over the place in Windows and other Microsoft products -- simply "removing it" really
>> isn't an option.
>>
>> http:// links in Messenger still go your default browser, it's just Microsoft services and
>> the help system that don't.
>>
>> BTW, specifically for the Hotmail integration, you can make it go to the default browser
>> in the system by using StuffPlug:
>> http://www.stuffplug.com
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> "NickP" <> wrote in message news:%23f97$...
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>
>>>> Anything other than the links in conversations will take you to Internet Explorer as
>>>> these are Microsoft sites and the experience is supposed to be consistent.
>>>
>>> So what about machines that have windows without Internet Explorer installed, does the
>>> messenger just crash?
>>>
>>> AFAIK, and forgive me if I am wrong, but I do believe that there are versions of XP
>>> that do *not* have Internet Explorer isntalled.
>>>
>>> Best protocol would be to use the default system browser, which would go along with
>>> the behaviour of pretty much any software on the system.
>>>
>>> Nick.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
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NickP
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      05-11-2007
Hi Jonathan,

Aaah! So that is the difference, my wrong then. Cheers for the info.

Nick.

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
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> Hi Nick,
>
> I think you're thinking of the 'N' versions which don't include Media
> Player.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
> "NickP" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>> My appologuies, I thought there was a version of XP available on MSDN
>> that did not have internet explorer? Although off of the top of my head
>> I can't remember what the code was that is suffixed to the product name.
>> I wouldn't have expected Microsoft to remove the underlying core, just
>> the IE interface, which of course is easily done.
>>
>> Nick.
>>
>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>> news:F409EA81-9FD1-4E52-A0EE-...
>>> Hi Nick,
>>>
>>> It probably wouldn't crash, just not do anything or spawn an error
>>> message.
>>>
>>> There are no Microsoft versions of Windows XP that do not have Internet
>>> Explorer. Yes you can disable it, but it's still there and accessible.
>>> IE and its rendering engine are used all over the place in Windows and
>>> other Microsoft products -- simply "removing it" really isn't an option.
>>>
>>> http:// links in Messenger still go your default browser, it's just
>>> Microsoft services and the help system that don't.
>>>
>>> BTW, specifically for the Hotmail integration, you can make it go to the
>>> default browser in the system by using StuffPlug:
>>> http://www.stuffplug.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonathan Kay
>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>>> Associate Expert
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
>>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "NickP" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%23f97$...
>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>>> Anything other than the links in conversations will take you to
>>>>> Internet Explorer as these are Microsoft sites and the experience is
>>>>> supposed to be consistent.
>>>>
>>>> So what about machines that have windows without Internet Explorer
>>>> installed, does the messenger just crash?
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK, and forgive me if I am wrong, but I do believe that there are
>>>> versions of XP that do *not* have Internet Explorer isntalled.
>>>>
>>>> Best protocol would be to use the default system browser, which
>>>> would go along with the behaviour of pretty much any software on the
>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>> Nick.
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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