Is there a known issue with IE8 causing slow desktop paint/redraw?

I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8 last
week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my desktop UI speed
had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows around, there would be a
white "lag" behind them, similar to turning on "mouse trails" for your
cursor. It acted like I had disabled video acceleration. Also, YouTube
videos were jittery and my CPU utilization was very high while watching.

Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation did
not improve.

I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES with
IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but specifically
it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.

Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed is
back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so it is
obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.

My system specs:
Dell 400SC
Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
3 GB memory
NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
Dual LCD monitors
Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates

Thoughts? Anyone?

I have not seen any other posts (or posted bugs) about such behavior.

No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31 December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a non-domain
environment.
=> US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
=> Other locales: https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043

My personal recommendations include:

=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!!

=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.

=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before
installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and any
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.

=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore Point prior to
reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton users will need to see
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]

=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you decide
install it.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


bargz wrote:
> I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8 last
> week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my desktop UI
> speed
> had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows around, there would be
> a
> white "lag" behind them, similar to turning on "mouse trails" for your
> cursor. It acted like I had disabled video acceleration. Also, YouTube
> videos were jittery and my CPU utilization was very high while watching.
>
> Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
> installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation did
> not improve.
>
> I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
> similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES
> with IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but
> specifically it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.
>
> Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed is
> back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so it
> is obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.
>
> My system specs:
> Dell 400SC
> Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
> 3 GB memory
> NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
> Dual LCD monitors
> Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
>
> Thoughts? Anyone?

I haven't heard of this particular situation, but there are interactions
between IE8 and desktop GUI theme management software. Are you using
windows blinds or other theme management software? Have you in some way
modified the standard windows display themes?

Steve


"bargz" <> wrote in message
news:C300BFF2-8139-4055-BA77-...
>I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8 last
> week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my desktop UI
> speed
> had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows around, there would be
> a
> white "lag" behind them, similar to turning on "mouse trails" for your
> cursor. It acted like I had disabled video acceleration. Also, YouTube
> videos were jittery and my CPU utilization was very high while watching.
>
> Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
> installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation did
> not improve.
>
> I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
> similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES
> with
> IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but specifically
> it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.
>
> Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed is
> back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so it
> is
> obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.
>
> My system specs:
> Dell 400SC
> Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
> 3 GB memory
> NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
> Dual LCD monitors
> Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
>
> Thoughts? Anyone?
>
>

Hi Barg,

See this blog post.

http://blogs.msdn.com/tonyschr/archi...mitations.aspx

Regards.

"bargz" <> wrote in message
news:C300BFF2-8139-4055-BA77-...
> I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8 last
> week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my desktop UI
> speed
> had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows around, there would be
> a
> white "lag" behind them, similar to turning on "mouse trails" for your
> cursor. It acted like I had disabled video acceleration. Also, YouTube
> videos were jittery and my CPU utilization was very high while watching.
>
> Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
> installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation did
> not improve.
>
> I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
> similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES
> with
> IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but specifically
> it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.
>
> Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed is
> back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so it
> is
> obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.
>
> My system specs:
> Dell 400SC
> Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
> 3 GB memory
> NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
> Dual LCD monitors
> Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
>
> Thoughts? Anyone?
>
>

I am using Windows XP, SP3
--
JimB


"bargz" wrote:

> I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8 last
> week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my desktop UI speed
> had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows around, there would be a
> white "lag" behind them, similar to turning on "mouse trails" for your
> cursor. It acted like I had disabled video acceleration. Also, YouTube
> videos were jittery and my CPU utilization was very high while watching.
>
> Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
> installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation did
> not improve.
>
> I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
> similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES with
> IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but specifically
> it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.
>
> Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed is
> back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so it is
> obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.
>
> My system specs:
> Dell 400SC
> Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
> 3 GB memory
> NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
> Dual LCD monitors
> Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
>
> Thoughts? Anyone?
>
>

Also makes me wonder if you have the Active Desktop on turned on.
('View my desktop as a webpage..' in display settings)
This always gives rise to issues, has done since IE4.

"JimB" wrote:

> I am using Windows XP, SP3
> --
> JimB
>
>
> "bargz" wrote:
>
> > I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8 last
> > week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my desktop UI speed
> > had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows around, there would be a
> > white "lag" behind them, similar to turning on "mouse trails" for your
> > cursor. It acted like I had disabled video acceleration. Also, YouTube
> > videos were jittery and my CPU utilization was very high while watching.
> >
> > Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
> > installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation did
> > not improve.
> >
> > I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
> > similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES with
> > IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but specifically
> > it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.
> >
> > Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed is
> > back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so it is
> > obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.
> >
> > My system specs:
> > Dell 400SC
> > Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
> > 3 GB memory
> > NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
> > Dual LCD monitors
> > Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
> >
> > Thoughts? Anyone?
> >
> >

[Active Desktop is disabled in IE7 and IE8.]

Anteaus wrote:
> Also makes me wonder if you have the Active Desktop on turned on.
> ('View my desktop as a webpage..' in display settings)
> This always gives rise to issues, has done since IE4.
>
> "JimB" wrote:
>> I am using Windows XP, SP3
>>
>> "bargz" wrote:
>>> I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8 last
>>> week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my desktop UI
>>> speed had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows around, there
>>> would be a white "lag" behind them, similar to turning on "mouse trails"
>>> for your cursor. It acted like I had disabled video acceleration.
>>> Also,
>>> YouTube videos were jittery and my CPU utilization was very high while
>>> watching.
>>>
>>> Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
>>> installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation
>>> did
>>> not improve.
>>>
>>> I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
>>> similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES
>>> with IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but
>>> specifically it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.
>>>
>>> Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed
>>> is
>>> back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so
>>> it is obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.
>>>
>>> My system specs:
>>> Dell 400SC
>>> Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
>>> 3 GB memory
>>> NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
>>> Dual LCD monitors
>>> Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
>>>
>>> Thoughts? Anyone?

I'm seeing exactly the same problem as Bargz describes, namely a slowdown of
the desktop background with white lag. It started when I upgraded to IE8 but
my story gets a bit sadder...

At first I didn't realise it was IE8 but I did notice that the white lag
cleared up if I were to stop the explorer.exe process. When I restarted
explorer.exe then the white lag returned. I decided that there might be a
registry corruption causing explorer to slow things down so I did a system
restore to the previous week and then everything then seemed ok.

The following day I noticed that IE8 was no longer working and then I
realised that the restore had restored me to before I installed IE8. So I
reinstalled IE8 and to my dismay the white lag returned.
So next I decided to can IE8 and roll back to IE7. I uninstalled IE8 and
installed IE7 but to my further dismay IE7 refuses to run - it just drops
back to the desktop.
So now my choices are to have IE8 with a slowdown or to move over to Firefox
(which I'm currently using but it keeps locking me up so i want it
uninstalled asap).

Help!

another clue - with IE8 installed then I can't change the background without
a restart. The old background remains on the desktop even after I've changed
it in the display properties window.

My specs are:
Fijitsu siemens Pentium 4 HT 3.6 GHz
2 GB memory
NVidia GeForce 7950 driver version 182.08
Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates

Intersting that Bargz also has Pentium HT chip?

any advice appreciated...

---------

"bargz" wrote:

> I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8 last
> week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my desktop UI speed
> had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows around, there would be a
> white "lag" behind them, similar to turning on "mouse trails" for your
> cursor. It acted like I had disabled video acceleration. Also, YouTube
> videos were jittery and my CPU utilization was very high while watching.
>
> Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
> installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation did
> not improve.
>
> I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
> similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES with
> IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but specifically
> it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.
>
> Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed is
> back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so it is
> obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.
>
> My system specs:
> Dell 400SC
> Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
> 3 GB memory
> NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
> Dual LCD monitors
> Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
>
> Thoughts? Anyone?
>
>

Interesting: I have almost the same story here this evening. IE8 came
up as an update with dotNET 3.5 so I figured what the hell, give it a
try. Did an incremental backup, stored a system state, and let 'er rip.
"Rip" is right. It took forever to install (over an hour) and the whole
machine dropped to its knees w/r to speed.
Several Restarts & a Cold Boot later I'd have enough and dropped back
to the drive image just prior to those updates. Everything's back to
nifty now and I've told update to never offer those to me again. The
dotNET never did get installed.
I've heard rumors that if you download ie separately it's OK but for
now I think I'll live with 7 and let 8 ripen for a long while more. The
whole thing was a PITA, like most of microsoft's efforts lately. Soon's
I get all the drivers I need, MS is gone, gone, gone! XP is the only
tie I have left and I can't wait to disconnect from it. Everything else
has been replaced except VB which I no longer use. I'm running low on
Vaseline!

Twayne`



Arfur wrote:
> I'm seeing exactly the same problem as Bargz describes, namely a
> slowdown of the desktop background with white lag. It started when I
> upgraded to IE8 but my story gets a bit sadder...
>
> At first I didn't realise it was IE8 but I did notice that the white
> lag cleared up if I were to stop the explorer.exe process. When I
> restarted explorer.exe then the white lag returned. I decided that
> there might be a registry corruption causing explorer to slow things
> down so I did a system restore to the previous week and then
> everything then seemed ok.
>
> The following day I noticed that IE8 was no longer working and then I
> realised that the restore had restored me to before I installed IE8.
> So I reinstalled IE8 and to my dismay the white lag returned.
> So next I decided to can IE8 and roll back to IE7. I uninstalled IE8
> and installed IE7 but to my further dismay IE7 refuses to run - it
> just drops back to the desktop.
> So now my choices are to have IE8 with a slowdown or to move over to
> Firefox (which I'm currently using but it keeps locking me up so i
> want it uninstalled asap).
>
> Help!
>
> another clue - with IE8 installed then I can't change the background
> without a restart. The old background remains on the desktop even
> after I've changed it in the display properties window.
>
> My specs are:
> Fijitsu siemens Pentium 4 HT 3.6 GHz
> 2 GB memory
> NVidia GeForce 7950 driver version 182.08
> Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
>
> Intersting that Bargz also has Pentium HT chip?
>
> any advice appreciated...
>
> ---------
>
> "bargz" wrote:
>
>> I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8
>> last week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my
>> desktop UI speed had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows
>> around, there would be a white "lag" behind them, similar to turning
>> on "mouse trails" for your cursor. It acted like I had disabled
>> video acceleration. Also, YouTube videos were jittery and my CPU
>> utilization was very high while watching.
>>
>> Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
>> installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the
>> situation did not improve.
>>
>> I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with
>> a similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB
>> PAGES with IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load,
>> but specifically it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.
>>
>> Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI
>> speed is back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without
>> trails -- so it is obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.
>>
>> My system specs:
>> Dell 400SC
>> Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
>> 3 GB memory
>> NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
>> Dual LCD monitors
>> Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
>>
>> Thoughts? Anyone?

I have exactly this slow painting problem -- and have researched this all over.

The only common thread in all these posts is "NVidia GeForce".

My two computers have NVidia GeForce cards, I have slow painting problem
with IE8. I remove IE8, painting problem gone.

Other people without NVidia GeForce cards do not report this problem --
generally speaking. Nothing posted on NVidia forums about it ...

Just a guess.

"bargz" wrote:

> I have Windows XP SP3, and I decided to install Internet Explorer 8 last
> week. It installed fine, and I used it for a week, but my desktop UI speed
> had become NOTICEABLY sluggish: when I move windows around, there would be a
> white "lag" behind them, similar to turning on "mouse trails" for your
> cursor. It acted like I had disabled video acceleration. Also, YouTube
> videos were jittery and my CPU utilization was very high while watching.
>
> Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
> installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation did
> not improve.
>
> I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
> similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES with
> IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but specifically
> it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.
>
> Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed is
> back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so it is
> obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.
>
> My system specs:
> Dell 400SC
> Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
> 3 GB memory
> NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
> Dual LCD monitors
> Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
>
> Thoughts? Anyone?
>
>