Thoughts on Vista SP1 and WGA

Was just pounding away in my blog about WGA and stuff, and had an
interesting thought. In XP you aren't permitted to d/l the SP UNLESS you
have a legal copy. I am assuming the same holds true with Vista. If this is
indeed the case, then HOW are the pirates, excuse me, unlicensed users going
to be able to download it?

Oh I KNOW that someone will release it to the public eventually, but it just
strikes me as funny that no one has mentioned this before now...LOL

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:34:39 -0800, "DarkSentinel"
<> wrote:

Don't you worry. Pirates don't care much for Vista.
They know how crapppy it is.

>Was just pounding away in my blog about WGA and stuff, and had an
>interesting thought. In XP you aren't permitted to d/l the SP UNLESS you
>have a legal copy. I am assuming the same holds true with Vista. If this is
>indeed the case, then HOW are the pirates, excuse me, unlicensed users going
>to be able to download it?
>
>Oh I KNOW that someone will release it to the public eventually, but it just
>strikes me as funny that no one has mentioned this before now...LOL

"Pirate" <tba.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:34:39 -0800, "DarkSentinel"
> <> wrote:
>
> Don't you worry. Pirates don't care much for Vista.
> They know how crapppy it is.

Well let's see, I have supported every iteration of Windows since 3.1,
supported Macs, Linux, Solaris, and a host of others. Vista has the same
problems that every version has had when initially released. Mac's aren't
perfect. None of the Linux distros are either. Just because people are
having trouble with it, doesn't make it inherently crappy. NT had the same
initial response, as did 2000, as did XP, or are you too young to remember
that? Hell, look at Me.

It isn't crappy for me. I'm just as productive with it, as I was with XP. I
have had less problems converting from XP, than I did going from 98 to XP.
My system is very fast. All my apps run. All my older hardware works fine.
But hey, if it don't work for ya, use what does. No one is forcing you to
use it. No one really cares about your opinion of it. You think it's crappy,
so what? Why even bother spouting your views on Vista, when you can just
move along to an ng that is pertinent to the OS you DO like and use. So
don't you worry there ARE some of us out here that are getting along fine
using it, understand there will be some growing pains, deal with it, and
move on without having to babble inanely all day long.

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I had the same experience with ME. No problems at all. I was stunned to hear
that some had problems with it.
Its ALL about hardware, and keeping drivers up to date (and not doing a
dirty "upgrade" install).

Kurt

"DarkSentinel" <> wrote in message
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> Well let's see, I have supported every iteration of Windows since 3.1,
> supported Macs, Linux, Solaris, and a host of others. Vista has the same
> problems that every version has had when initially released. Mac's aren't
> perfect. None of the Linux distros are either. Just because people are
> having trouble with it, doesn't make it inherently crappy. NT had the same
> initial response, as did 2000, as did XP, or are you too young to remember
> that? Hell, look at Me.
>
> It isn't crappy for me. I'm just as productive with it, as I was with XP.
> I have had less problems converting from XP, than I did going from 98 to
> XP. My system is very fast. All my apps run. All my older hardware works
> fine. But hey, if it don't work for ya, use what does. No one is forcing
> you to use it. No one really cares about your opinion of it. You think
> it's crappy, so what? Why even bother spouting your views on Vista, when
> you can just move along to an ng that is pertinent to the OS you DO like
> and use. So don't you worry there ARE some of us out here that are getting
> along fine using it, understand there will be some growing pains, deal
> with it, and move on without having to babble inanely all day long.
>
> --
> Ok, I admit it, I killed Barney!!
> http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel
> You know what to do with the munge

DarkSentinel wrote:
> Was just pounding away in my blog about WGA and stuff, and had an
> interesting thought. In XP you aren't permitted to d/l the SP UNLESS you
> have a legal copy. I am assuming the same holds true with Vista. If this
> is indeed the case, then HOW are the pirates, excuse me, unlicensed
> users going to be able to download it?
>
> Oh I KNOW that someone will release it to the public eventually, but it
> just strikes me as funny that no one has mentioned this before now...LOL
>

Torrents, IRC, usenet bianaries, cracks, etc.

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"Kurt Herman" <> wrote in message
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> I had the same experience with ME. No problems at all. I was stunned to
> hear that some had problems with it.
> Its ALL about hardware, and keeping drivers up to date (and not doing a
> dirty "upgrade" install).

I had some problems with it with one of my clients, and that was mostly
driver related and networking stuff.

I just know that I was dead set against using Vista until I had to try it,
and have been, with a few exceptions pleasantly surprised. Yes it takes a
little effort to tweak. But since we are all individuals and have our own
tastes, what isn't? When I was doing Linux, I was a Gnome head. I absolutely
hate(d) KDE. And was CONSTANTLY tweaking that to suit my tastes. Now if ya
want to find a REAL bitch to set up, install Solaris for x86. Try finding
drivers for THAT. Was lucky to find em for my Adaptec 39160.

I think my most difficult set up, was a job I did down at DC Superior Court.
They brought in a Dell Web appliance. Had 2000 w/IIS for the web server,
backed by a RH/Inktomi traffic server, using an Oracle db server running on
top of a Solaris kernel. That job started with the dip that Dell outsourced
the hardware install to messing something up, and frying the backplane of
the external array. Went downhill from there...

So when people start griping about how tough it is, I tend to be like this
ain't ****, ya know? But then again, not all of us have technical
background, and just don't know how to do it. That's not a bad thing mind
you, just that the learning curve is different.

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"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
<> wrote in message news:fk4vba$n49$...
> DarkSentinel wrote:
>> Was just pounding away in my blog about WGA and stuff, and had an
>> interesting thought. In XP you aren't permitted to d/l the SP UNLESS you
>> have a legal copy. I am assuming the same holds true with Vista. If this
>> is indeed the case, then HOW are the pirates, excuse me, unlicensed users
>> going to be able to download it?
>>
>> Oh I KNOW that someone will release it to the public eventually, but it
>> just strikes me as funny that no one has mentioned this before now...LOL
>>
>
> Torrents, IRC, usenet bianaries, cracks, etc.

Oh I know. Was just amused that MS was saying how nice they are being by
doing this, but having that little caveat...lol

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DarkSentinel wrote:
> "The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
> <> wrote in message news:fk4vba$n49$...
>> DarkSentinel wrote:
>>> Was just pounding away in my blog about WGA and stuff, and had an
>>> interesting thought. In XP you aren't permitted to d/l the SP UNLESS
>>> you have a legal copy. I am assuming the same holds true with Vista.
>>> If this is indeed the case, then HOW are the pirates, excuse me,
>>> unlicensed users going to be able to download it?
>>>
>>> Oh I KNOW that someone will release it to the public eventually, but
>>> it just strikes me as funny that no one has mentioned this before
>>> now...LOL
>>>
>>
>> Torrents, IRC, usenet bianaries, cracks, etc.
>
> Oh I know. Was just amused that MS was saying how nice they are being by
> doing this, but having that little caveat...lol
>

Yes I find it humourous too.


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