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  1. tyrellcorp

    tyrellcorp Guest

    hi there hope everyone is well out there!


    Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
    finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
    this subject.

    is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
    keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?
    Its taken more than a year to get all of the settings and programs to
    this condition and i now need to upgrade to 64bit so that i can use all
    of that extra RAM.! any ideas on the way ahead would be most
    grateful....


    cheers


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    tyrellcorp, Sep 12, 2009
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  2. tyrellcorp

    John Galt Guest

    tyrellcorp <> wrote:

    >
    >hi there hope everyone is well out there!
    >
    >
    >Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
    >finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
    >this subject.
    >
    >is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
    >keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?


    I doubt it. Going from 32-bit to 64-bit in Vista requires a clean
    install.

    I doubt that has changed.
     
    John Galt, Sep 12, 2009
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  3. tyrellcorp wrote:
    > hi there hope everyone is well out there!
    >
    >
    > Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
    > finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
    > this subject.
    >
    > is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
    > keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?



    No, there isn't. In fact, it's simply not technically possible to do
    what you want.

    There is no supported upgrade path from any 32-bit OS to any 64-bit OS.
    You have to perform a clean installation, which entails deleting the
    partition and creating and formatting a new partition (Although some
    people merely format the old partition and start from there) before
    installing the new OS, which obviously means that any and all installed
    applications will need to be reinstalled from the original installation
    media.


    > Its taken more than a year to get all of the settings and programs to
    > this condition and i now need to upgrade to 64bit so that i can use all
    > of that extra RAM.! any ideas on the way ahead would be most
    > grateful....
    >
    >


    The Windows Easy Transfer Wizard can walk you through transferring your
    data files and many application settings from one installation to another.



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    Bruce Chambers, Sep 12, 2009
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  4. Sorry, no. You can use the "Windows Easy Transfer" tool to back up settings
    and files now and then restore them afterwards. There is no way to perform
    any upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit Windows, never has been and likely never
    will be.

    "tyrellcorp" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > hi there hope everyone is well out there!
    >
    >
    > Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
    > finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
    > this subject.
    >
    > is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
    > keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?
    > Its taken more than a year to get all of the settings and programs to
    > this condition and i now need to upgrade to 64bit so that i can use all
    > of that extra RAM.! any ideas on the way ahead would be most
    > grateful....
    >
    >
    > cheers
    >
    >
    > --
    > tyrellcorp
     
    Richard G. Harper, Sep 12, 2009
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  5. tyrellcorp

    Curious Guest

    tyrellcorp,
    You can not do an in place upgrade of a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit since the
    registry and the drivers for hardware on the systems are totally different.
    You can do a replacement upgrade which will replace your 32 bit OS with a 64
    bit OS and which will save out all of your 32 bit files in a folder on your
    desktop named Windows.Old.
    You can then copy out of this folder any data files that you need for your
    new installation and then you can delete the folder.
    All applications will need to be reinstalled since they all have registry
    entries.
    You will not get any performance benefit from the extra memory available on
    a 64 bit system unless you are running some very memory intensive
    applications such as video editing or a relational data base manager. Think
    of it like a car, you don't need or get any benefit from owning an 8
    passenger minivan if you only have a family of 4 and a standard sedan.

    "Richard G. Harper" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Sorry, no. You can use the "Windows Easy Transfer" tool to back up
    > settings and files now and then restore them afterwards. There is no way
    > to perform any upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit Windows, never has been and
    > likely never will be.
    >
    > "tyrellcorp" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>
    >> hi there hope everyone is well out there!
    >>
    >>
    >> Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
    >> finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
    >> this subject.
    >>
    >> is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
    >> keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?
    >> Its taken more than a year to get all of the settings and programs to
    >> this condition and i now need to upgrade to 64bit so that i can use all
    >> of that extra RAM.! any ideas on the way ahead would be most
    >> grateful....
    >>
    >>
    >> cheers
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> tyrellcorp

    >
     
    Curious, Sep 12, 2009
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  6. tyrellcorp

    tyrellcorp Guest

    so you cant use a 32bit back up on a 64bit installation?


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    tyrellcorp, Sep 12, 2009
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  7. tyrellcorp

    Curious Guest

    I don't even know what you mean by creating a 32 OS bit back up of a 64 bit
    OS installation

    "tyrellcorp" <> wrote in message
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    > so you cant use a 32bit back up on a 64bit installation?
    >
    >
    > --
    > tyrellcorp
     
    Curious, Sep 13, 2009
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  8. "tyrellcorp" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > so you cant use a 32bit back up on a 64bit installation?
    >
    >
    > --
    > tyrellcorp


    You can back up files with the Windows Easy Transfer in the 32-bit edition
    and then use the WET in the 64-bit edition to restore them. It works very
    well. As others have said, you will have to reinstall your applications.
    All of them.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Sep 13, 2009
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  9. tyrellcorp

    Ian D Guest

    "tyrellcorp" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > so you cant use a 32bit back up on a 64bit installation?
    >
    >
    > --
    > tyrellcorp


    Your best bet is to install the 64 bit Win 7 in a dual boot
    configuration. That way, you will have access to all your
    apps, while taking time to set up Win 7 to your liking. To
    do this Win 7 would need to be on a separate drive, or
    partition.

    If you're migrating to 64 bit Win 7, why not wait until the
    Oct 22 retail release. Then you won't have to reinstall
    when your beta, or RC Win 7 expires.
     
    Ian D, Sep 13, 2009
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  10. tyrellcorp

    tyrellcorp Guest

    i thought the RC runs out next august. I have tried the dual method an
    got fed up with having to continually shut down and start to mov
    between the OS's. and that also ties up a hard drive which isnt bein
    used for 50% of the time. I thought that there might be a way to instal
    the 64bit and then install the back up of the 32 bit programs with al
    of their individual prefernences intact. without having to uninstall al
    of my programs and then installing them all again after i have installe
    the 64bit os
    how reliable is a back up anyway? does it put all of the computer bac
    EXACTLY as it was , i think i would always feel that something was no
    right or something

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    tyrellcorp, Sep 13, 2009
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  11. tyrellcorp

    Ian D Guest

    "tyrellcorp" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > i thought the RC runs out next august. I have tried the dual method and
    > got fed up with having to continually shut down and start to move
    > between the OS's. and that also ties up a hard drive which isnt being
    > used for 50% of the time. I thought that there might be a way to install
    > the 64bit and then install the back up of the 32 bit programs with all
    > of their individual prefernences intact. without having to uninstall all
    > of my programs and then installing them all again after i have installed
    > the 64bit os.
    > how reliable is a back up anyway? does it put all of the computer back
    > EXACTLY as it was , i think i would always feel that something was not
    > right or something.
    >
    >
    > --
    > tyrellcorp


    There's no way to backup applications and reinstall them in
    a new OS installation. It's not just a matter of copying the
    program Files folders for each app. There are thousands of
    directory entries spread throughout the registry. If you're
    going from a 32 bit to a 64 bit OS, there's also the 32 vs 64
    bit separation. They have their own Program Files folders,
    and system32 folders. Another consideration is that there
    are 32 bit apps that are 64 bit OS aware, and may install one
    or more 64 bit extensions, (.dll or .sys), for compatibility.
    MS Office 2007 is one.
     
    Ian D, Sep 13, 2009
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  12. tyrellcorp

    tyrellcorp Guest

    so it looks like there is no way to get around the "install all again
    suituation , it seems i will have to start from scratch again , which i
    annoying , it took well over a year to get the computer to how it is no
    , its a lot of work just to get my machine to utlise all the extra ram
    thanks anywa

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    tyrellcorp, Sep 14, 2009
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  13. tyrellcorp

    alexdagr8est Guest

    just back up all your files and reinstall, programs you will have t
    reconfigure. sorry mat

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    alexdagr8est, Sep 14, 2009
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