How to get rid of FrontPage Server Extensions?

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by The Number 23, Dec 10, 2003.

  1. I just received my weekly Critical Update productivity killer.

    This week, it features "FrontPage Server Extensions". Funny thing is, I've
    never wanted or installed Frontpage, and I don't have Office on my PC. So,
    it's safe to assume Microsoft installs it on every Windows XP machine.

    I don't want to patch it, I want to get rid of it! How do I uninstall these
    silly and buggy server extensions? It's not listed in Add..Remove programs.
    Can I just regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\web
    server extensions\40\bin\fp4autl.dll" and delete it?

    Unless I hear otherwise, that's what I'll do and I'll recommend all my
    colleagues to do the same.
     
    The Number 23, Dec 10, 2003
    #1
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  2. The Number 23

    Melelina Guest

    Here's how to get rid of it: (First sign on to XP as administrator)

    FrontPage Server Extensions administrators can uninstall FrontPage Server
    Extensions in Add or Remove programs
    1.. From the Start button, choose Control Panel.
    2.. Select Add or Remove programs.
    3.. Select Add/Remove Windows Components.
    4.. Select "Internet Information Services (IIS)" and choose "Details.".
    5.. Uncheck "FrontPage 2000 Server Extensions" and choose OK.
    6.. Choose Next in the Windows Components Wizard and choose Finish.
    Most confusing. I though MS had installed Front Page Server Extensions on
    my new XP Pro box but no, they are NOT installed. The box in step 5 above
    was NOT checked and yet I have been offered the critical patch today at
    Windows Update. But I see now that the critical patch has been offered to
    me (and probably you and many others) erroneously based, I think, on the
    presence of that file. But if the extensions are NOT installed by default
    ,and Microsoft states in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-051 that this is
    the case for XP, then unless you or I or someone installed those extensions
    on our boxes we do NOT need the patch nor do you need to uninstall something
    that you have never installed. So go see if the extensions are installed on
    your box. Sounds like they are not from what you have said. I believe
    MS03-051 is incorrect when it states : " If you have the fp4awel.dll file
    you your system, you have FrontPage Server Extensions 2000 installed ". I
    have this file but the extensions have NOT been installed so I don't need
    the patch. Microsoft says only those who were offered the patch in November
    need it and I was not offered it in November.

    If you are still confused then call Product Support Services in the United
    States at 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). No charge for issues concerning
    security fixes.

    For some reason, I have yet to receive the revised MS03-051 in my email. I
    hope I haven't somehow gotten inadvertently removed from the List Serve.

    "The Number 23" <> wrote in
    message news:gANBb.498915$Tr4.1357794@attbi_s03...
    >
    > I just received my weekly Critical Update productivity killer.
    >
    > This week, it features "FrontPage Server Extensions". Funny thing is, I've
    > never wanted or installed Frontpage, and I don't have Office on my PC. So,
    > it's safe to assume Microsoft installs it on every Windows XP machine.
    >
    > I don't want to patch it, I want to get rid of it! How do I uninstall

    these
    > silly and buggy server extensions? It's not listed in Add..Remove

    programs.
    > Can I just regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\web
    > server extensions\40\bin\fp4autl.dll" and delete it?
    >
    > Unless I hear otherwise, that's what I'll do and I'll recommend all my
    > colleagues to do the same.
    >
    >
     
    Melelina, Dec 11, 2003
    #2
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  3. Thanks for the information. As you predicted, Frontpage 2000 Server
    Extensions was not checked/installed, so this critical patch is bogus.

    I'd believe it if MS told me that they installed the files with a clean
    WinXP install but did not activate them, and thus are simply updating the
    files in the off-chance that I do install the server extensions, but if that
    were true, shame on them for putting the files in the Program Files
    directory. Again, that's just a theory.

    However, I'm unable to delete the files because they are protected by System
    File Protection, and these files appear attached to various GUIDs in the
    registry. It sure feels like they are installed.

    So, somewhere along the line, Microsoft lied to us. I hope they feel the
    brunt of whatever punishment is due to them for giving 30 million users this
    needless headache (bad press, negative user backlash, etc.)



    "Melelina" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Here's how to get rid of it: (First sign on to XP as administrator)
    >
    > FrontPage Server Extensions administrators can uninstall FrontPage Server
    > Extensions in Add or Remove programs
    > 1.. From the Start button, choose Control Panel.
    > 2.. Select Add or Remove programs.
    > 3.. Select Add/Remove Windows Components.
    > 4.. Select "Internet Information Services (IIS)" and choose "Details.".
    > 5.. Uncheck "FrontPage 2000 Server Extensions" and choose OK.
    > 6.. Choose Next in the Windows Components Wizard and choose Finish.
    > Most confusing. I though MS had installed Front Page Server Extensions on
    > my new XP Pro box but no, they are NOT installed. The box in step 5 above
    > was NOT checked and yet I have been offered the critical patch today at
    > Windows Update. But I see now that the critical patch has been offered

    to
    > me (and probably you and many others) erroneously based, I think, on the
    > presence of that file. But if the extensions are NOT installed by default
    > ,and Microsoft states in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-051 that this

    is
    > the case for XP, then unless you or I or someone installed those

    extensions
    > on our boxes we do NOT need the patch nor do you need to uninstall

    something
    > that you have never installed. So go see if the extensions are installed

    on
    > your box. Sounds like they are not from what you have said. I believe
    > MS03-051 is incorrect when it states : " If you have the fp4awel.dll file
    > you your system, you have FrontPage Server Extensions 2000 installed ".

    I
    > have this file but the extensions have NOT been installed so I don't need
    > the patch. Microsoft says only those who were offered the patch in

    November
    > need it and I was not offered it in November.
    >
    > If you are still confused then call Product Support Services in the

    United
    > States at 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). No charge for issues

    concerning
    > security fixes.
    >
    > For some reason, I have yet to receive the revised MS03-051 in my email.

    I
    > hope I haven't somehow gotten inadvertently removed from the List Serve.
    >
    > "The Number 23" <> wrote in
    > message news:gANBb.498915$Tr4.1357794@attbi_s03...
    > >
    > > I just received my weekly Critical Update productivity killer.
    > >
    > > This week, it features "FrontPage Server Extensions". Funny thing is,

    I've
    > > never wanted or installed Frontpage, and I don't have Office on my PC.

    So,
    > > it's safe to assume Microsoft installs it on every Windows XP machine.
    > >
    > > I don't want to patch it, I want to get rid of it! How do I uninstall

    > these
    > > silly and buggy server extensions? It's not listed in Add..Remove

    > programs.
    > > Can I just regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft

    Shared\web
    > > server extensions\40\bin\fp4autl.dll" and delete it?
    > >
    > > Unless I hear otherwise, that's what I'll do and I'll recommend all my
    > > colleagues to do the same.
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    The Number 23, Dec 12, 2003
    #3
  4. The Number 23

    Kari [MSFT] Guest

    There was a problem with the updated detection for this patch - the patch
    itself *is not bogus*. This has been fixed and if you have never installed
    Front Page Server Extensions you should not now be offered the patch (it
    will not do any harm if you did install it, however - for those that did).
    --
    Kari
    "The Number 23" <> wrote in
    message news:Sy8Cb.312705$Dw6.1059722@attbi_s02...
    >
    > Thanks for the information. As you predicted, Frontpage 2000 Server
    > Extensions was not checked/installed, so this critical patch is bogus.
    >
    > I'd believe it if MS told me that they installed the files with a clean
    > WinXP install but did not activate them, and thus are simply updating the
    > files in the off-chance that I do install the server extensions, but if

    that
    > were true, shame on them for putting the files in the Program Files
    > directory. Again, that's just a theory.
    >
    > However, I'm unable to delete the files because they are protected by

    System
    > File Protection, and these files appear attached to various GUIDs in the
    > registry. It sure feels like they are installed.
    >
    > So, somewhere along the line, Microsoft lied to us. I hope they feel the
    > brunt of whatever punishment is due to them for giving 30 million users

    this
    > needless headache (bad press, negative user backlash, etc.)
    >
    >
    >
    > "Melelina" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Here's how to get rid of it: (First sign on to XP as administrator)
    > >
    > > FrontPage Server Extensions administrators can uninstall FrontPage

    Server
    > > Extensions in Add or Remove programs
    > > 1.. From the Start button, choose Control Panel.
    > > 2.. Select Add or Remove programs.
    > > 3.. Select Add/Remove Windows Components.
    > > 4.. Select "Internet Information Services (IIS)" and choose

    "Details.".
    > > 5.. Uncheck "FrontPage 2000 Server Extensions" and choose OK.
    > > 6.. Choose Next in the Windows Components Wizard and choose Finish.
    > > Most confusing. I though MS had installed Front Page Server Extensions

    on
    > > my new XP Pro box but no, they are NOT installed. The box in step 5

    above
    > > was NOT checked and yet I have been offered the critical patch today at
    > > Windows Update. But I see now that the critical patch has been

    offered
    > to
    > > me (and probably you and many others) erroneously based, I think, on the
    > > presence of that file. But if the extensions are NOT installed by

    default
    > > ,and Microsoft states in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-051 that this

    > is
    > > the case for XP, then unless you or I or someone installed those

    > extensions
    > > on our boxes we do NOT need the patch nor do you need to uninstall

    > something
    > > that you have never installed. So go see if the extensions are

    installed
    > on
    > > your box. Sounds like they are not from what you have said. I believe
    > > MS03-051 is incorrect when it states : " If you have the fp4awel.dll

    file
    > > you your system, you have FrontPage Server Extensions 2000 installed ".

    > I
    > > have this file but the extensions have NOT been installed so I don't

    need
    > > the patch. Microsoft says only those who were offered the patch in

    > November
    > > need it and I was not offered it in November.
    > >
    > > If you are still confused then call Product Support Services in the

    > United
    > > States at 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). No charge for issues

    > concerning
    > > security fixes.
    > >
    > > For some reason, I have yet to receive the revised MS03-051 in my email.

    > I
    > > hope I haven't somehow gotten inadvertently removed from the List Serve.
    > >
    > > "The Number 23" <> wrote in
    > > message news:gANBb.498915$Tr4.1357794@attbi_s03...
    > > >
    > > > I just received my weekly Critical Update productivity killer.
    > > >
    > > > This week, it features "FrontPage Server Extensions". Funny thing is,

    > I've
    > > > never wanted or installed Frontpage, and I don't have Office on my PC.

    > So,
    > > > it's safe to assume Microsoft installs it on every Windows XP machine.
    > > >
    > > > I don't want to patch it, I want to get rid of it! How do I uninstall

    > > these
    > > > silly and buggy server extensions? It's not listed in Add..Remove

    > > programs.
    > > > Can I just regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft

    > Shared\web
    > > > server extensions\40\bin\fp4autl.dll" and delete it?
    > > >
    > > > Unless I hear otherwise, that's what I'll do and I'll recommend all my
    > > > colleagues to do the same.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Kari [MSFT], Dec 12, 2003
    #4
  5. Thank you for the information Kari. As you said, the detection seems to be
    working now and it is not showing up in my Critical Updates list.

    "Kari [MSFT]" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > There was a problem with the updated detection for this patch - the patch
    > itself *is not bogus*. This has been fixed and if you have never

    installed
    > Front Page Server Extensions you should not now be offered the patch (it
    > will not do any harm if you did install it, however - for those that did).
    > --
    > Kari
     
    The Number 23, Dec 12, 2003
    #5
  6. The Number 23

    Melelina Guest

    I too am no longer showing the patch as a critical update. That is good. I
    however spent an hour on the phone yesterday with Microsoft support about
    this. The engineer was very nice but he knew absolutely nothing about this
    issue! He did tell me that if I had never installed the extensions that (as
    I already thought) I did not need the patch. He thought though that the
    patch might continue to be offered to me and suggested I used chat in
    Windows Update if that happened. I read him your earlier post but he still
    had no idea about the basis for this problem. He was more interested in
    asking me about my Christmas shopping.

    Last time I called Microsoft about a critical patch problem it was two years
    ago and support was still in the U.S. not India. It was excellent then. I
    can't say that now! If support was still in this country,as it should be,
    I'm sure the engineer would have been aware of this issue. It was quite
    obvious that MS has told these techs in India to pretend to be in the U.S.
    by asking about Christmas shopping, etc. How ridiculous.

    "Kari [MSFT]" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > There was a problem with the updated detection for this patch - the patch
    > itself *is not bogus*. This has been fixed and if you have never

    installed
    > Front Page Server Extensions you should not now be offered the patch (it
    > will not do any harm if you did install it, however - for those that did).
    > --
    > Kari
    > "The Number 23" <> wrote in
    > message news:Sy8Cb.312705$Dw6.1059722@attbi_s02...
    > >
    > > Thanks for the information. As you predicted, Frontpage 2000 Server
    > > Extensions was not checked/installed, so this critical patch is bogus.
    > >
    > > I'd believe it if MS told me that they installed the files with a clean
    > > WinXP install but did not activate them, and thus are simply updating

    the
    > > files in the off-chance that I do install the server extensions, but if

    > that
    > > were true, shame on them for putting the files in the Program Files
    > > directory. Again, that's just a theory.
    > >
    > > However, I'm unable to delete the files because they are protected by

    > System
    > > File Protection, and these files appear attached to various GUIDs in the
    > > registry. It sure feels like they are installed.
    > >
    > > So, somewhere along the line, Microsoft lied to us. I hope they feel the
    > > brunt of whatever punishment is due to them for giving 30 million users

    > this
    > > needless headache (bad press, negative user backlash, etc.)
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Melelina" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > Here's how to get rid of it: (First sign on to XP as administrator)
    > > >
    > > > FrontPage Server Extensions administrators can uninstall FrontPage

    > Server
    > > > Extensions in Add or Remove programs
    > > > 1.. From the Start button, choose Control Panel.
    > > > 2.. Select Add or Remove programs.
    > > > 3.. Select Add/Remove Windows Components.
    > > > 4.. Select "Internet Information Services (IIS)" and choose

    > "Details.".
    > > > 5.. Uncheck "FrontPage 2000 Server Extensions" and choose OK.
    > > > 6.. Choose Next in the Windows Components Wizard and choose Finish.
    > > > Most confusing. I though MS had installed Front Page Server

    Extensions
    > on
    > > > my new XP Pro box but no, they are NOT installed. The box in step 5

    > above
    > > > was NOT checked and yet I have been offered the critical patch today

    at
    > > > Windows Update. But I see now that the critical patch has been

    > offered
    > > to
    > > > me (and probably you and many others) erroneously based, I think, on

    the
    > > > presence of that file. But if the extensions are NOT installed by

    > default
    > > > ,and Microsoft states in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-051 that

    this
    > > is
    > > > the case for XP, then unless you or I or someone installed those

    > > extensions
    > > > on our boxes we do NOT need the patch nor do you need to uninstall

    > > something
    > > > that you have never installed. So go see if the extensions are

    > installed
    > > on
    > > > your box. Sounds like they are not from what you have said. I

    believe
    > > > MS03-051 is incorrect when it states : " If you have the fp4awel.dll

    > file
    > > > you your system, you have FrontPage Server Extensions 2000 installed

    ".
    > > I
    > > > have this file but the extensions have NOT been installed so I don't

    > need
    > > > the patch. Microsoft says only those who were offered the patch in

    > > November
    > > > need it and I was not offered it in November.
    > > >
    > > > If you are still confused then call Product Support Services in the

    > > United
    > > > States at 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). No charge for issues

    > > concerning
    > > > security fixes.
    > > >
    > > > For some reason, I have yet to receive the revised MS03-051 in my

    email.
    > > I
    > > > hope I haven't somehow gotten inadvertently removed from the List

    Serve.
    > > >
    > > > "The Number 23" <> wrote

    in
    > > > message news:gANBb.498915$Tr4.1357794@attbi_s03...
    > > > >
    > > > > I just received my weekly Critical Update productivity killer.
    > > > >
    > > > > This week, it features "FrontPage Server Extensions". Funny thing

    is,
    > > I've
    > > > > never wanted or installed Frontpage, and I don't have Office on my

    PC.
    > > So,
    > > > > it's safe to assume Microsoft installs it on every Windows XP

    machine.
    > > > >
    > > > > I don't want to patch it, I want to get rid of it! How do I

    uninstall
    > > > these
    > > > > silly and buggy server extensions? It's not listed in Add..Remove
    > > > programs.
    > > > > Can I just regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft

    > > Shared\web
    > > > > server extensions\40\bin\fp4autl.dll" and delete it?
    > > > >
    > > > > Unless I hear otherwise, that's what I'll do and I'll recommend all

    my
    > > > > colleagues to do the same.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Melelina, Dec 13, 2003
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