Live Mail and Newgroups

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Dragon, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. Dragon

    Dragon Guest

    Until recently I've been happily using Windows XP and Outlook Express for
    email and newsgroups.
    My new computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Windows Live
    Mail 2011 installed.
    In newsgroups I couldn't view a Newsgroup without subscribing and the Home
    tab showed no icons/buttons on the ribbon.
    In desperation I exported the newsgroup and email details, deleted Windows
    Live Essentials 2011 and installed the 2012 version.
    It seems that the export was unnecessary as the later version WLM had
    everything in place with the need for imports.
    The newer version has made no difference to the situation.
    I've now noticed that email the spell checking does not work despite setting
    the options to check before sending and check as I type.

    Advice please.

    Henry
    Dragon, Feb 6, 2013
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  2. Dragon

    ...winston Guest

    I've yet to use an email client (including OE) that one did not have to subscribe to a newsgroup in a news client after populating
    the entire list of groups avaiable on a given news server in order to receive and read the newsgroup messages.
    - i.e. you always needed to subscribe to a given group in OE and likewise need to do so in WLM

    Spell checking works here on WLM12/Win7 Pro...please provide more specific info on what part is not working (auto,
    highlighting/underlining an incorrectly spelled word, correction suggestions)



    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp


    "Dragon" wrote in message news:HEzQs.1286$7...

    Until recently I've been happily using Windows XP and Outlook Express for
    email and newsgroups.
    My new computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Windows Live
    Mail 2011 installed.
    In newsgroups I couldn't view a Newsgroup without subscribing and the Home
    tab showed no icons/buttons on the ribbon.
    In desperation I exported the newsgroup and email details, deleted Windows
    Live Essentials 2011 and installed the 2012 version.
    It seems that the export was unnecessary as the later version WLM had
    everything in place with the need for imports.
    The newer version has made no difference to the situation.
    I've now noticed that email the spell checking does not work despite setting
    the options to check before sending and check as I type.

    Advice please.

    Henry
    ...winston, Feb 6, 2013
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  3. Dragon

    Dragon Guest

    Thank you for a rapid response.

    This reply and my original post were both done on a computer with Windows XP
    and Outlook Express, as there are no buttons for post or reply in WLM on my
    W7 box.
    I can assure you that with OE I can select any newsgroup in the list of
    many thousands and 'Go to' it to read messages without subscribing.
    It's a reasonable way to see what's there and to decide if I really want to
    subscribe.
    Indeed I wonder if there is any other use for the 'Go to' button.
    Once a newsgroup has been subscribed to it, appears in a list of such groups
    and is then accessed by clicking on that group.
    Newsgroups are provided on my ISP's server which is news.virginmedia.com
    here in the UK

    Somehow the spell checking now works OK so one problem has gone away..
    Perhaps a restart of the application or something similar was needed after
    changing the spelling options.

    There remains the problem that the ribbon is blank on the Home tab for
    Newsgroups.
    I forgot to mention previously that it was populated for a brief period one
    day before I uninstalled WLM 2011 and installed WLM 2012.
    When I next started the computer it was again blank and has been so ever
    since.

    Henry

    "...winston" <> wrote in message
    news:keuofp$dtm$...
    I've yet to use an email client (including OE) that one did not have to
    subscribe to a newsgroup in a news client after populating
    the entire list of groups avaiable on a given news server in order to
    receive and read the newsgroup messages.
    - i.e. you always needed to subscribe to a given group in OE and likewise
    need to do so in WLM

    Spell checking works here on WLM12/Win7 Pro...please provide more specific
    info on what part is not working (auto,
    highlighting/underlining an incorrectly spelled word, correction
    suggestions)



    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp


    "Dragon" wrote in message news:HEzQs.1286$7...

    Until recently I've been happily using Windows XP and Outlook Express for
    email and newsgroups.
    My new computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Windows Live
    Mail 2011 installed.
    In newsgroups I couldn't view a Newsgroup without subscribing and the Home
    tab showed no icons/buttons on the ribbon.
    In desperation I exported the newsgroup and email details, deleted Windows
    Live Essentials 2011 and installed the 2012 version.
    It seems that the export was unnecessary as the later version WLM had
    everything in place with the need for imports.
    The newer version has made no difference to the situation.
    I've now noticed that email the spell checking does not work despite setting
    the options to check before sending and check as I type.

    Advice please.

    Henry
    Dragon, Feb 7, 2013
    #3
  4. Dragon

    ...winston Guest

    Got it.
    I forgot about the view without subscribe option in OE (it's been a few years since use).
    In WLM you cannot view a group without subscribing.



    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp


    "Dragon" wrote in message news:vSOQs.458$7...

    Thank you for a rapid response.

    This reply and my original post were both done on a computer with Windows XP
    and Outlook Express, as there are no buttons for post or reply in WLM on my
    W7 box.
    I can assure you that with OE I can select any newsgroup in the list of
    many thousands and 'Go to' it to read messages without subscribing.
    It's a reasonable way to see what's there and to decide if I really want to
    subscribe.
    Indeed I wonder if there is any other use for the 'Go to' button.
    Once a newsgroup has been subscribed to it, appears in a list of such groups
    and is then accessed by clicking on that group.
    Newsgroups are provided on my ISP's server which is news.virginmedia.com
    here in the UK

    Somehow the spell checking now works OK so one problem has gone away..
    Perhaps a restart of the application or something similar was needed after
    changing the spelling options.

    There remains the problem that the ribbon is blank on the Home tab for
    Newsgroups.
    I forgot to mention previously that it was populated for a brief period one
    day before I uninstalled WLM 2011 and installed WLM 2012.
    When I next started the computer it was again blank and has been so ever
    since.

    Henry

    "...winston" <> wrote in message
    news:keuofp$dtm$...
    I've yet to use an email client (including OE) that one did not have to
    subscribe to a newsgroup in a news client after populating
    the entire list of groups avaiable on a given news server in order to
    receive and read the newsgroup messages.
    - i.e. you always needed to subscribe to a given group in OE and likewise
    need to do so in WLM

    Spell checking works here on WLM12/Win7 Pro...please provide more specific
    info on what part is not working (auto,
    highlighting/underlining an incorrectly spelled word, correction
    suggestions)



    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp


    "Dragon" wrote in message news:HEzQs.1286$7...

    Until recently I've been happily using Windows XP and Outlook Express for
    email and newsgroups.
    My new computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Windows Live
    Mail 2011 installed.
    In newsgroups I couldn't view a Newsgroup without subscribing and the Home
    tab showed no icons/buttons on the ribbon.
    In desperation I exported the newsgroup and email details, deleted Windows
    Live Essentials 2011 and installed the 2012 version.
    It seems that the export was unnecessary as the later version WLM had
    everything in place with the need for imports.
    The newer version has made no difference to the situation.
    I've now noticed that email the spell checking does not work despite setting
    the options to check before sending and check as I type.

    Advice please.

    Henry
    ...winston, Feb 7, 2013
    #4
  5. Dragon

    Dragon Guest

    Thanks for confirming that Winston
    I guess I'll live it or use the old box to explore.
    I'm still looking for a solution to the blank ribbon problem.

    Cheers
    Henry

    "...winston" <> wrote in message
    news:kf3f2l$k2l$...
    Got it.
    I forgot about the view without subscribe option in OE (it's been a few
    years since use).
    In WLM you cannot view a group without subscribing.



    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp


    "Dragon" wrote in message news:vSOQs.458$7...

    Thank you for a rapid response.

    This reply and my original post were both done on a computer with Windows XP
    and Outlook Express, as there are no buttons for post or reply in WLM on my
    W7 box.
    I can assure you that with OE I can select any newsgroup in the list of
    many thousands and 'Go to' it to read messages without subscribing.
    It's a reasonable way to see what's there and to decide if I really want to
    subscribe.
    Indeed I wonder if there is any other use for the 'Go to' button.
    Once a newsgroup has been subscribed to it, appears in a list of such groups
    and is then accessed by clicking on that group.
    Newsgroups are provided on my ISP's server which is news.virginmedia.com
    here in the UK

    Somehow the spell checking now works OK so one problem has gone away..
    Perhaps a restart of the application or something similar was needed after
    changing the spelling options.

    There remains the problem that the ribbon is blank on the Home tab for
    Newsgroups.
    I forgot to mention previously that it was populated for a brief period one
    day before I uninstalled WLM 2011 and installed WLM 2012.
    When I next started the computer it was again blank and has been so ever
    since.

    Henry

    "...winston" <> wrote in message
    news:keuofp$dtm$...
    I've yet to use an email client (including OE) that one did not have to
    subscribe to a newsgroup in a news client after populating
    the entire list of groups avaiable on a given news server in order to
    receive and read the newsgroup messages.
    - i.e. you always needed to subscribe to a given group in OE and likewise
    need to do so in WLM

    Spell checking works here on WLM12/Win7 Pro...please provide more specific
    info on what part is not working (auto,
    highlighting/underlining an incorrectly spelled word, correction
    suggestions)



    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp


    "Dragon" wrote in message news:HEzQs.1286$7...

    Until recently I've been happily using Windows XP and Outlook Express for
    email and newsgroups.
    My new computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Windows Live
    Mail 2011 installed.
    In newsgroups I couldn't view a Newsgroup without subscribing and the Home
    tab showed no icons/buttons on the ribbon.
    In desperation I exported the newsgroup and email details, deleted Windows
    Live Essentials 2011 and installed the 2012 version.
    It seems that the export was unnecessary as the later version WLM had
    everything in place with the need for imports.
    The newer version has made no difference to the situation.
    I've now noticed that email the spell checking does not work despite setting
    the options to check before sending and check as I type.

    Advice please.

    Henry
    Dragon, Feb 8, 2013
    #5
  6. Dragon

    Jaypie Guest

    "Dragon" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
    mZdRs.5769$7...

    I'm still looking for a solution to the blank ribbon problem.
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    Did you right click on the blank line and uncheck the box
    " Reduce the ribbon " ?

    Jaypie
    Jaypie, Feb 9, 2013
    #6
  7. Dragon

    Dragon Guest

    Sure did.
    Even checked and unchecked it a couple of times.
    The ribbon is populated in the Folders, View and Accounts tabs.

    Whilst I find Winston's comment re subscribing to be correct on my wife's W7
    laptop, I wonder what the 'go to' button at the bottom of the list of
    newsgroups is for.
    I've found comments elsewhere that it is for a preview as I expected but
    maybe that was for an earlier version of WLM or just plain wrong!

    Henry

    "Jaypie" <> wrote in message
    news:kf43iu$heu$...
    > "Dragon" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
    > mZdRs.5769$7...
    >
    > I'm still looking for a solution to the blank ribbon problem.
    > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    >
    > Did you right click on the blank line and uncheck the box
    > " Reduce the ribbon " ?
    >
    > Jaypie
    >
    Dragon, Feb 9, 2013
    #7
  8. Dragon

    mac Guest

    "Dragon" <> wrote in message
    news:rSgRs.8125$b%7...
    > Sure did.
    > Even checked and unchecked it a couple of times.
    > The ribbon is populated in the Folders, View and Accounts tabs.
    >
    > Whilst I find Winston's comment re subscribing to be correct on my wife's
    > W7 laptop, I wonder what the 'go to' button at the bottom of the list of
    > newsgroups is for.
    > I've found comments elsewhere that it is for a preview as I expected but
    > maybe that was for an earlier version of WLM or just plain wrong!


    The "Go To" button is designed to take you to the selected newsgroup, by
    using it you will only download the number of message headers selected at
    tools>options>Read Tab, (default being 300). If you do not visit the
    selected group prior to Sync you will get all message headers that are on
    the server, sometimes 30/40,000.

    HTH?

    mac
    mac, Feb 9, 2013
    #8
  9. Dragon

    Dragon Guest

    " mac" <> wrote in message
    news:kf48td$crs$...
    >
    > "Dragon" <> wrote in message
    > news:rSgRs.8125$b%7...
    >> Sure did.
    >> Even checked and unchecked it a couple of times.
    >> The ribbon is populated in the Folders, View and Accounts tabs.
    >>
    >> Whilst I find Winston's comment re subscribing to be correct on my wife's
    >> W7 laptop, I wonder what the 'go to' button at the bottom of the list of
    >> newsgroups is for.
    >> I've found comments elsewhere that it is for a preview as I expected but
    >> maybe that was for an earlier version of WLM or just plain wrong!

    >
    > The "Go To" button is designed to take you to the selected newsgroup, by
    > using it you will only download the number of message headers selected at
    > tools>options>Read Tab, (default being 300). If you do not visit the
    > selected group prior to Sync you will get all message headers that are on
    > the server, sometimes 30/40,000.
    >
    > HTH?
    >
    > mac


    Thanks for trying mac
    I thought I was reasonably adept at this sort of thing- well with Outlook
    Express anyway.
    Number of messages is et at default.
    No matter what I do on my new W7 box or my wife's W7 laptop, nothing happens
    when I hit the Go to button.
    I'm perhaps missing something here.
    The complete lack of even basic instructions with WLM doesn't help.
    OE was reasonable on that score.

    Henry
    Dragon, Feb 9, 2013
    #9
  10. Dragon

    Jaypie Guest

    "Dragon" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
    33uRs.341$7...


    Thanks for trying mac
    I thought I was reasonably adept at this sort of thing- well with Outlook
    Express anyway.
    Number of messages is et at default.
    No matter what I do on my new W7 box or my wife's W7 laptop, nothing happens
    when I hit the Go to button.
    I'm perhaps missing something here.
    The complete lack of even basic instructions with WLM doesn't help.
    OE was reasonable on that score.

    Henry
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    Here's what I do to retrieve all group messages :

    I go to Options and uncheck the box showing 300.

    I click on the name of the news server, a window opens listing all the
    groups.
    I click on the name of one group then click on subscribe and Go to button.
    The group name appears on the left and I click on it in order to get all the
    messages.

    Hope this will help you.

    Jaypie
    Jaypie, Feb 9, 2013
    #10
  11. Dragon

    Dragon Guest

    "Jaypie" <> wrote in message
    news:kf6bs4$7ef$...
    > "Dragon" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
    > 33uRs.341$7...
    >
    >
    > Thanks for trying mac
    > I thought I was reasonably adept at this sort of thing- well with Outlook
    > Express anyway.
    > Number of messages is et at default.
    > No matter what I do on my new W7 box or my wife's W7 laptop, nothing
    > happens
    > when I hit the Go to button.
    > I'm perhaps missing something here.
    > The complete lack of even basic instructions with WLM doesn't help.
    > OE was reasonable on that score.
    >
    > Henry
    > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    >
    > Here's what I do to retrieve all group messages :
    >
    > I go to Options and uncheck the box showing 300.
    >
    > I click on the name of the news server, a window opens listing all the
    > groups.
    > I click on the name of one group then click on subscribe and Go to button.
    > The group name appears on the left and I click on it in order to get all
    > the messages.
    >
    > Hope this will help you.
    >
    > Jaypie


    Thanks for that!
    The light has just dawned!
    I did that when I subscribed to the few that I usually look at.
    The bit I had missed was that I used the 'Go to' button as part of that
    process.
    So it does have a use after all and it was me that missed it!
    All of which also confirms that you can't look at a newsgroup without
    subscribing to it just as Winston said a while ago.
    Thanks to all who helped.

    Cheers
    Henry
    Dragon, Feb 9, 2013
    #11
  12. Dragon

    ...winston Guest

    The Group name appears in the left hand pane after subscribing to a group and exiting the Newsgroup Subscriptions dialog box via OK
    or GoTo
    - GoTo obviates the need to click OK.

    Thus 'Go To' really only serves a redundant purpose (since OK is available).

    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp


    "Dragon" wrote in message news:kPyRs.8213$%7...


    "Jaypie" <> wrote in message
    news:kf6bs4$7ef$...
    > "Dragon" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion : 33uRs.341$7...
    >
    >
    > Thanks for trying mac
    > I thought I was reasonably adept at this sort of thing- well with Outlook
    > Express anyway.
    > Number of messages is et at default.
    > No matter what I do on my new W7 box or my wife's W7 laptop, nothing happens
    > when I hit the Go to button.
    > I'm perhaps missing something here.
    > The complete lack of even basic instructions with WLM doesn't help.
    > OE was reasonable on that score.
    >
    > Henry
    > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    >
    > Here's what I do to retrieve all group messages :
    >
    > I go to Options and uncheck the box showing 300.
    >
    > I click on the name of the news server, a window opens listing all the groups.
    > I click on the name of one group then click on subscribe and Go to button.
    > The group name appears on the left and I click on it in order to get all the messages.
    >
    > Hope this will help you.
    >
    > Jaypie


    Thanks for that!
    The light has just dawned!
    I did that when I subscribed to the few that I usually look at.
    The bit I had missed was that I used the 'Go to' button as part of that
    process.
    So it does have a use after all and it was me that missed it!
    All of which also confirms that you can't look at a newsgroup without
    subscribing to it just as Winston said a while ago.
    Thanks to all who helped.

    Cheers
    Henry
    ...winston, Feb 10, 2013
    #12
  13. Dragon

    ...winston Guest

    On WLM ????

    - 'Go To' afiak only obviates the need to click the OK button in the newsgroup subscriptions dialog box.


    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp


    " mac" wrote in message news:kf48td$crs$...


    "Dragon" <> wrote in message
    news:rSgRs.8125$b%7...
    > Sure did.
    > Even checked and unchecked it a couple of times.
    > The ribbon is populated in the Folders, View and Accounts tabs.
    >
    > Whilst I find Winston's comment re subscribing to be correct on my wife's W7 laptop, I wonder what the 'go to' button at the
    > bottom of the list of newsgroups is for.
    > I've found comments elsewhere that it is for a preview as I expected but maybe that was for an earlier version of WLM or just
    > plain wrong!


    The "Go To" button is designed to take you to the selected newsgroup, by
    using it you will only download the number of message headers selected at
    tools>options>Read Tab, (default being 300). If you do not visit the
    selected group prior to Sync you will get all message headers that are on
    the server, sometimes 30/40,000.

    HTH?

    mac
    ...winston, Feb 10, 2013
    #13
  14. Dragon

    Ildhund Guest

    Dragon wrote...

    > All of which also confirms that you can't look at a newsgroup without subscribing to it


    Yep. You used to be able to, up to and including WLMail 2009 IIRC. It was from the introduction of WLMail 2011 that it became impossible to visit a newsgroup without subscribing to it. One of the reasons for this may have been that posts downloaded during a /Go to/ session couldn't be deleted from within the program.
    --
    Noel
    Ildhund, Feb 11, 2013
    #14
  15. Dragon

    ...winston Guest

    Hi Noel,
    Correct. WLM 2009 was the last version where 'Go To' functioned like OE, WM.


    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp


    "Ildhund" wrote in message news:kfbq42$sms$...

    Dragon wrote...

    > All of which also confirms that you can't look at a newsgroup without subscribing to it


    Yep. You used to be able to, up to and including WLMail 2009 IIRC. It was from the introduction of WLMail 2011 that it became
    impossible to visit a newsgroup without subscribing to it. One of the reasons for this may have been that posts downloaded during a
    /Go to/ session couldn't be deleted from within the program.
    --
    Noel
    ...winston, Feb 12, 2013
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