Seamless stream playing (a working example!!)

Discussion in 'Windows Media Player' started by schoenfeld1@gmail.com, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. Guest

    I have been struggling to get seamless stream switching via ASX file to
    work on windows media player.

    Does anyone have a working example or ANY IDEA on how this can be done?
    (MSDN docs aren't helpful at all).

    I need to play one stream, when that finishes, play another stream
    seamlessly. The streams are file based.


    Any help is immensly appreciated!
    , Aug 22, 2005
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  2. JethroUK© Guest

    can't you stitch the files together seamlessly at source and upload as one
    big file - i thought that was the idea of streaming


    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I have been struggling to get seamless stream switching via ASX file to
    > work on windows media player.
    >
    > Does anyone have a working example or ANY IDEA on how this can be done?
    > (MSDN docs aren't helpful at all).
    >
    > I need to play one stream, when that finishes, play another stream
    > seamlessly. The streams are file based.
    >
    >
    > Any help is immensly appreciated!
    >
    JethroUK©, Aug 22, 2005
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  3. JethroUK© Guest

    can't you stitch the files together seamlessly at source and upload as one
    big file - i thought that was the idea of streaming


    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I have been struggling to get seamless stream switching via ASX file to
    > work on windows media player.
    >
    > Does anyone have a working example or ANY IDEA on how this can be done?
    > (MSDN docs aren't helpful at all).
    >
    > I need to play one stream, when that finishes, play another stream
    > seamlessly. The streams are file based.
    >
    >
    > Any help is immensly appreciated!
    >
    JethroUK©, Aug 22, 2005
    #3
  4. "" wrote:

    > I have been struggling to get seamless stream switching
    > via ASX file to work on windows media player.
    >
    > Does anyone have a working example or ANY IDEA on how
    > this can be done? (MSDN docs aren't helpful at all).


    MSDN docs are *very* helpful in this if you take the time to
    read all the info there about the multimedia architecture.
    But since you can not use ASX to work around a DirectShow
    limit, you won't find a magical solution.

    > I need to play one stream, when that finishes, play
    > another stream seamlessly. The streams are file based.
    >
    >
    > Any help is immensly appreciated!


    Stop posting the same question over and over. I already
    answered you and, from your description of the problem, that
    is the *only* answer. If you don't like it, that doesn't
    make it any less true.


    --
    // Alessandro Angeli
    // MVP :: DigitalMedia
    // a dot angeli at psynet dot net
    Alessandro Angeli [MVP::DigitalMedia], Aug 22, 2005
    #4
  5. "" wrote:

    > I have been struggling to get seamless stream switching
    > via ASX file to work on windows media player.
    >
    > Does anyone have a working example or ANY IDEA on how
    > this can be done? (MSDN docs aren't helpful at all).


    MSDN docs are *very* helpful in this if you take the time to
    read all the info there about the multimedia architecture.
    But since you can not use ASX to work around a DirectShow
    limit, you won't find a magical solution.

    > I need to play one stream, when that finishes, play
    > another stream seamlessly. The streams are file based.
    >
    >
    > Any help is immensly appreciated!


    Stop posting the same question over and over. I already
    answered you and, from your description of the problem, that
    is the *only* answer. If you don't like it, that doesn't
    make it any less true.


    --
    // Alessandro Angeli
    // MVP :: DigitalMedia
    // a dot angeli at psynet dot net
    Alessandro Angeli [MVP::DigitalMedia], Aug 22, 2005
    #5
  6. TJ Guest

    The usual way is to have Media Encoder with multiple sources feeding a WMS
    publishing point. The encoder will take care of switching and stitching the
    sources together. The media player will receive a constant stream from the
    WMS server.

    The player shouldn't be expected to do what is, after all, a server-side
    directed operation because network congestion and other factors means you,
    as the publisher, can't control the user's experience.

    TJ.
    TJ, Aug 23, 2005
    #6
  7. TJ Guest

    The usual way is to have Media Encoder with multiple sources feeding a WMS
    publishing point. The encoder will take care of switching and stitching the
    sources together. The media player will receive a constant stream from the
    WMS server.

    The player shouldn't be expected to do what is, after all, a server-side
    directed operation because network congestion and other factors means you,
    as the publisher, can't control the user's experience.

    TJ.
    TJ, Aug 23, 2005
    #7
  8. Guest

    Alessandro Angeli [MVP::DigitalMedia] wrote:
    > "" wrote:
    >
    > > I have been struggling to get seamless stream switching
    > > via ASX file to work on windows media player.
    > >
    > > Does anyone have a working example or ANY IDEA on how
    > > this can be done? (MSDN docs aren't helpful at all).

    >
    > MSDN docs are *very* helpful in this if you take the time to
    > read all the info there about the multimedia architecture.
    > But since you can not use ASX to work around a DirectShow
    > limit, you won't find a magical solution.


    Had you bothered to read the MSDN section you invoke you would find the
    examples useless.

    > > I need to play one stream, when that finishes, play
    > > another stream seamlessly. The streams are file based.
    > >
    > >
    > > Any help is immensly appreciated!

    >
    > Stop posting the same question over and over. I already
    > answered you and, from your description of the problem, that
    > is the *only* answer. If you don't like it, that doesn't
    > make it any less true.


    Another Microsoft failure. I've wasted WEEKS working around Microsoft
    bugs and API failures -with an attitude like yours it's no wonder why.

    1. Had to write my own Panel, Control, Label, Button, GroupBox,
    TabControl, TabPage controls to replace the Windows Forms controls
    because they don't support xp-theme. Microsoft response was "xp-themed
    will be supported in .NET 2". LOL (by the way: your wonderful MSDN
    claims that .NET 1.1 supports xp themes which is a lie).

    2. Had to write my own NotificationIcon control because standard .NET
    doesn't have BalloonWindow support.

    3. Had to write my own logging framework because .NET trace doesn't
    flush files properly, doesn't close files properly, and doesn't catch
    it's own exceptions.

    4. Now I have to write my own damn media player because the geniuses at
    microsoft decided that smooth, flicker-free transition between clips is
    not a necessary.

    You guys are a joke. You've succeeded only in motivating me to
    contribute to the mono project - which I will do once I'm done with
    this post.

    I'm done.

    >
    > --
    > // Alessandro Angeli
    > // MVP :: DigitalMedia
    > // a dot angeli at psynet dot net
    , Aug 23, 2005
    #8
  9. On 22 Aug 2005 19:05:18 -0700, wrote:

    <snip rant to...>

    > You guys are a joke. You've succeeded only in motivating me to
    > contribute to the mono project - which I will do once I'm done with
    > this post.
    >
    > I'm done.


    That is welcome news.

    This is instructive:

    http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author: idiot&qt_s=Search

    Follow up set to: microsoft.public.windowsmedia.sdk (Where Alessandro's
    answers in the original thread are. See "Need seemless transition between
    clips in playlist." posted one hour earlier (there's another thread in
    between on the same subject by the OP before this five group crosspost)).
    The March Hare [MVP], Aug 23, 2005
    #9
  10. On 22 Aug 2005 19:05:18 -0700, wrote:

    <snip rant to...>

    > You guys are a joke. You've succeeded only in motivating me to
    > contribute to the mono project - which I will do once I'm done with
    > this post.
    >
    > I'm done.


    That is welcome news.

    This is instructive:

    http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author: idiot&qt_s=Search

    Follow up set to: microsoft.public.windowsmedia.sdk (Where Alessandro's
    answers in the original thread are. See "Need seemless transition between
    clips in playlist." posted one hour earlier (there's another thread in
    between on the same subject by the OP before this five group crosspost)).
    The March Hare [MVP], Aug 23, 2005
    #10
  11. On 22 Aug 2005 19:05:18 -0700, wrote:

    >
    >Alessandro Angeli [MVP::DigitalMedia] wrote:
    >> "" wrote:
    >>
    >> > I have been struggling to get seamless stream switching
    >> > via ASX file to work on windows media player.
    >> >
    >> > Does anyone have a working example or ANY IDEA on how
    >> > this can be done? (MSDN docs aren't helpful at all).

    >>
    >> MSDN docs are *very* helpful in this if you take the time to
    >> read all the info there about the multimedia architecture.
    >> But since you can not use ASX to work around a DirectShow
    >> limit, you won't find a magical solution.

    >
    >Had you bothered to read the MSDN section you invoke you would find the
    >examples useless.


    The examples are useless because this is not possible with the current
    version of media player. I'm sure that was explained clearly several
    times, you seem to be quite 'hard of understanding' and more concerned
    with being a time wasting troll.

    >> Stop posting the same question over and over. I already
    >> answered you and, from your description of the problem, that
    >> is the *only* answer. If you don't like it, that doesn't
    >> make it any less true.

    >
    >Another Microsoft failure. I've wasted WEEKS working around Microsoft
    >bugs and API failures -with an attitude like yours it's no wonder why.


    No, you're an idiot. If you really really can't work it out, read this
    page about (1) repeated posting of the same bloody question

    "Pointlessly annoying" :
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id3002966

    "Courtesy never hurts" :
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#courtesy

    and (2) cross posting the same bloody question to several unrelated
    newsgroups

    "Choose your forum carefully"
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#forum

    Allesandro's exactly corrrect. Just because *you* don't like the
    answer (it's NO BTW) doesn't mean that keeping posting the question
    will get you an answer you *DO* like :p


    >1. Had to write my own Panel, Control, Label, Button, GroupBox,
    >TabControl, TabPage controls to replace the Windows Forms controls
    >because they don't support xp-theme. Microsoft response was "xp-themed
    >will be supported in .NET 2". LOL (by the way: your wonderful MSDN
    >claims that .NET 1.1 supports xp themes which is a lie).


    "Robustly claiming non-bugs" :
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id3001405

    Tough. It's not "our" .NET, I'm a PHP developer for good reasons.

    If you dislike it so much, find another technology rather than
    bitching about it. How the hell is this related to windows media ?
    Just take your boring rant and sod off to a newsgroup where people
    *will* put up with this irrelevance.

    <snip>Yawn Irrelevant Whinge</snip>

    >4. Now I have to write my own damn media player because the geniuses at
    >microsoft decided that smooth, flicker-free transition between clips is
    >not a necessary.


    So where was your request for this feature in the WM10 Beta ???

    I didn't see it, and I *kept* all the beta newsgroups posts. So your
    year-late whingeing is irrelevant and uninteresting. If you want to
    improve products, take place in the product lifecycle, else shut the
    hell up.

    >You guys are a joke. You've succeeded only in motivating me to
    >contribute to the mono project - which I will do once I'm done with
    >this post.


    "On not reacting like a loser" :
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#not_losing

    I believe it's possible to demonstrate you're a moron who has no
    capacity to ask a reasonable question and accept the answer from
    experts (who happen to be real human beings). Instead you're a troll
    who comes here to blow off steam about unrelated rubbish, and blame
    *everybody* except yourself for your own shortcomings.

    Mono is an excellent tech which by the sound of it you should already
    have switched to long ago. Must be a glutton for punishment.

    Enjoy yourself with that but don't come crying back here that the Mono
    devs gave you an earful for being such an ass when you demand answers
    you *like*, flame people who provide answers you *don't like*, and
    show an inability to use discussion forums appropriately.

    Bye, Troll
    N.
    Neil Smith [Private Views], Aug 23, 2005
    #11
  12. "" wrote:

    > You guys are a joke. You've succeeded only in motivating
    > me to contribute to the mono project - which I will do
    > once I'm done with this post.
    >
    > I'm done.


    Good.


    --
    // Alessandro Angeli
    // MVP :: DigitalMedia
    // a dot angeli at psynet dot net
    Alessandro Angeli [MVP::DigitalMedia], Aug 23, 2005
    #12
  13. "" wrote:

    > You guys are a joke. You've succeeded only in motivating
    > me to contribute to the mono project - which I will do
    > once I'm done with this post.
    >
    > I'm done.


    Good.


    --
    // Alessandro Angeli
    // MVP :: DigitalMedia
    // a dot angeli at psynet dot net
    Alessandro Angeli [MVP::DigitalMedia], Aug 23, 2005
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