Server 2003 and Exchange 2007 to Server 2008 and Exchange 2007

Discussion in 'Server Migration' started by TNAngler, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. TNAngler

    TNAngler Guest

    Current server is the DC and Exchange server. Getting in a new 64bit server
    to replace current. I have read thru upgrading AD domains to Windows 2008 AD
    DS Domains and understand the steps for the migration.

    1. Should I get Exchange 2007 up and running on the new server before making
    the new server a DC?

    2. Any links to further help me along would be great!!
    TNAngler, Feb 2, 2009
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  2. Hello TNAngler,

    Exchange, especially 2007 should NOT run on a domain controller, run it on
    a member server. Performance and also security is the reason for that.

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
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    > Current server is the DC and Exchange server. Getting in a new 64bit
    > server to replace current. I have read thru upgrading AD domains to
    > Windows 2008 AD DS Domains and understand the steps for the migration.
    >
    > 1. Should I get Exchange 2007 up and running on the new server before
    > making the new server a DC?
    >
    > 2. Any links to further help me along would be great!!
    >
    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS], Feb 3, 2009
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  3. TNAngler

    TNAngler Guest

    Meinolf,

    Yes I am fully aware of what MS recommends.....but that doesn't help my
    problem....pretend you don't know that I'm doing what MS doesn't
    want/recommend....

    Once I get the DC up and running I am lost on when renaming a server. I need
    the new server to retain the name the existing server has.

    In setting up the new server I plan on giving it a temp name. Should the old
    server stay it's existing name before I set up Exchange on the new server and
    config Exchange 2007 and move all the mailboxes. After all that is done
    decommission the old sever and then rename the new server?


    "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

    > Hello TNAngler,
    >
    > Exchange, especially 2007 should NOT run on a domain controller, run it on
    > a member server. Performance and also security is the reason for that.
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Meinolf Weber
    > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    > no rights.
    > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >
    >
    > > Current server is the DC and Exchange server. Getting in a new 64bit
    > > server to replace current. I have read thru upgrading AD domains to
    > > Windows 2008 AD DS Domains and understand the steps for the migration.
    > >
    > > 1. Should I get Exchange 2007 up and running on the new server before
    > > making the new server a DC?
    > >
    > > 2. Any links to further help me along would be great!!
    > >

    >
    >
    >
    TNAngler, Feb 5, 2009
    #3
  4. Hello TNAngler,

    You can not rename an exchange 2007 server, this will breake exchange.

    FOR ALL STEPS, TEST IT IN A LAB AND MAKE BACKUPS BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!!!

    So you have to rename the 2003, then install the new server with the old
    name install exchange and migrate exchange to the new server.

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2005.05.domainrename.aspx

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...4a-c4b9-4031-b491-29839148a28c&displaylang=en

    http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842116

    For exchange 2007 migration see here:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555854

    http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Transitioning-Exchange-2000-2003-Exchange-Server-2007-Part1.html

    http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Transitioning-Exchange-2000-2003-Exchange-Server-2007-Part2.html

    http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Transitioning-Exchange-2000-2003-Exchange-Server-2007-Part3.html

    But again, i would do it a safer way, why do you have to keep the name for
    the new server? Why not choosing another name?


    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > Meinolf,
    >
    > Yes I am fully aware of what MS recommends.....but that doesn't help
    > my problem....pretend you don't know that I'm doing what MS doesn't
    > want/recommend....
    >
    > Once I get the DC up and running I am lost on when renaming a server.
    > I need the new server to retain the name the existing server has.
    >
    > In setting up the new server I plan on giving it a temp name. Should
    > the old server stay it's existing name before I set up Exchange on the
    > new server and config Exchange 2007 and move all the mailboxes. After
    > all that is done decommission the old sever and then rename the new
    > server?
    >
    > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
    >
    >> Hello TNAngler,
    >>
    >> Exchange, especially 2007 should NOT run on a domain controller, run
    >> it on a member server. Performance and also security is the reason
    >> for that.
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >>
    >> Meinolf Weber
    >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    >> confers
    >> no rights.
    >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>> Current server is the DC and Exchange server. Getting in a new 64bit
    >>> server to replace current. I have read thru upgrading AD domains to
    >>> Windows 2008 AD DS Domains and understand the steps for the
    >>> migration.
    >>>
    >>> 1. Should I get Exchange 2007 up and running on the new server
    >>> before making the new server a DC?
    >>>
    >>> 2. Any links to further help me along would be great!!
    >>>
    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS], Feb 5, 2009
    #4
  5. TNAngler

    TNAngler Guest

    Meinolf,

    Thanks for all the input. After reading I believe that the new server will
    have to have a new name. That seems the best solution. I didn't want to
    rename it because there is some other programs that are using the current
    server and I was trying to avoid cleaning up that mess.

    "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

    > Hello TNAngler,
    >
    > You can not rename an exchange 2007 server, this will breake exchange.
    >
    > FOR ALL STEPS, TEST IT IN A LAB AND MAKE BACKUPS BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!!!
    >
    > So you have to rename the 2003, then install the new server with the old
    > name install exchange and migrate exchange to the new server.
    >
    > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2005.05.domainrename.aspx
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...4a-c4b9-4031-b491-29839148a28c&displaylang=en
    >
    > http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
    >
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842116
    >
    > For exchange 2007 migration see here:
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555854
    >
    > http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Transitioning-Exchange-2000-2003-Exchange-Server-2007-Part1.html
    >
    > http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Transitioning-Exchange-2000-2003-Exchange-Server-2007-Part2.html
    >
    > http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Transitioning-Exchange-2000-2003-Exchange-Server-2007-Part3.html
    >
    > But again, i would do it a safer way, why do you have to keep the name for
    > the new server? Why not choosing another name?
    >
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Meinolf Weber
    > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    > no rights.
    > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >
    >
    > > Meinolf,
    > >
    > > Yes I am fully aware of what MS recommends.....but that doesn't help
    > > my problem....pretend you don't know that I'm doing what MS doesn't
    > > want/recommend....
    > >
    > > Once I get the DC up and running I am lost on when renaming a server.
    > > I need the new server to retain the name the existing server has.
    > >
    > > In setting up the new server I plan on giving it a temp name. Should
    > > the old server stay it's existing name before I set up Exchange on the
    > > new server and config Exchange 2007 and move all the mailboxes. After
    > > all that is done decommission the old sever and then rename the new
    > > server?
    > >
    > > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
    > >
    > >> Hello TNAngler,
    > >>
    > >> Exchange, especially 2007 should NOT run on a domain controller, run
    > >> it on a member server. Performance and also security is the reason
    > >> for that.
    > >>
    > >> Best regards
    > >>
    > >> Meinolf Weber
    > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    > >> confers
    > >> no rights.
    > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    > >>> Current server is the DC and Exchange server. Getting in a new 64bit
    > >>> server to replace current. I have read thru upgrading AD domains to
    > >>> Windows 2008 AD DS Domains and understand the steps for the
    > >>> migration.
    > >>>
    > >>> 1. Should I get Exchange 2007 up and running on the new server
    > >>> before making the new server a DC?
    > >>>
    > >>> 2. Any links to further help me along would be great!!
    > >>>

    >
    >
    >
    TNAngler, Feb 5, 2009
    #5
  6. Hello TNAngler,

    A new server name will make it easier. But still think about using Exchange
    on a member server.

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > Meinolf,
    >
    > Thanks for all the input. After reading I believe that the new server
    > will have to have a new name. That seems the best solution. I didn't
    > want to rename it because there is some other programs that are using
    > the current server and I was trying to avoid cleaning up that mess.
    >
    > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
    >
    >> Hello TNAngler,
    >>
    >> You can not rename an exchange 2007 server, this will breake
    >> exchange.
    >>
    >> FOR ALL STEPS, TEST IT IN A LAB AND MAKE BACKUPS BEFORE DOING
    >> ANYTHING!!!
    >>
    >> So you have to rename the 2003, then install the new server with the
    >> old name install exchange and migrate exchange to the new server.
    >>
    >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2005.05.domainrename.aspx
    >>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=24b47d4a-c4b
    >> 9-4031-b491-29839148a28c&displaylang=en
    >>
    >> http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/08/30/222719.aspx
    >>
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842116
    >>
    >> For exchange 2007 migration see here:
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555854
    >> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Transitioning-Exchange-2000-2003-
    >> Exchange-Server-2007-Part1.html
    >>
    >> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Transitioning-Exchange-2000-2003-
    >> Exchange-Server-2007-Part2.html
    >>
    >> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Transitioning-Exchange-2000-2003-
    >> Exchange-Server-2007-Part3.html
    >>
    >> But again, i would do it a safer way, why do you have to keep the
    >> name for the new server? Why not choosing another name?
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >>
    >> Meinolf Weber
    >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    >> confers
    >> no rights.
    >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>> Meinolf,
    >>>
    >>> Yes I am fully aware of what MS recommends.....but that doesn't help
    >>> my problem....pretend you don't know that I'm doing what MS doesn't
    >>> want/recommend....
    >>>
    >>> Once I get the DC up and running I am lost on when renaming a
    >>> server. I need the new server to retain the name the existing server
    >>> has.
    >>>
    >>> In setting up the new server I plan on giving it a temp name. Should
    >>> the old server stay it's existing name before I set up Exchange on
    >>> the new server and config Exchange 2007 and move all the mailboxes.
    >>> After all that is done decommission the old sever and then rename
    >>> the new server?
    >>>
    >>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hello TNAngler,
    >>>>
    >>>> Exchange, especially 2007 should NOT run on a domain controller,
    >>>> run it on a member server. Performance and also security is the
    >>>> reason for that.
    >>>>
    >>>> Best regards
    >>>>
    >>>> Meinolf Weber
    >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
    >>>> and
    >>>> confers
    >>>> no rights.
    >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>>>> Current server is the DC and Exchange server. Getting in a new
    >>>>> 64bit server to replace current. I have read thru upgrading AD
    >>>>> domains to Windows 2008 AD DS Domains and understand the steps for
    >>>>> the migration.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> 1. Should I get Exchange 2007 up and running on the new server
    >>>>> before making the new server a DC?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> 2. Any links to further help me along would be great!!
    >>>>>
    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS], Feb 5, 2009
    #6
  7. if i want to rename win2008 domain server with exchange 2007 what can i do

    "TNAngler" wrote:

    > Current server is the DC and Exchange server. Getting in a new 64bit server
    > to replace current. I have read thru upgrading AD domains to Windows 2008 AD
    > DS Domains and understand the steps for the migration.
    >
    > 1. Should I get Exchange 2007 up and running on the new server before making
    > the new server a DC?
    >
    > 2. Any links to further help me along would be great!!
    Mohamed Nabrawy, May 28, 2009
    #7
  8. Hello Mohamed,

    You can't rename when exchange 2007 is installed.
    http://theessentialexchange.com/blo...08/04/04/exchange-2007-and-domain-rename.aspx

    But if you follow this thread, you can see a way how to do it with re-installing
    exchange after .pst exporting:
    http://social.technet.microsoft.com...n/thread/31784c7f-beaa-4d83-b0ce-387a85431c94

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > if i want to rename win2008 domain server with exchange 2007 what can
    > i do
    >
    > "TNAngler" wrote:
    >
    >> Current server is the DC and Exchange server. Getting in a new 64bit
    >> server to replace current. I have read thru upgrading AD domains to
    >> Windows 2008 AD DS Domains and understand the steps for the
    >> migration.
    >>
    >> 1. Should I get Exchange 2007 up and running on the new server before
    >> making the new server a DC?
    >>
    >> 2. Any links to further help me along would be great!!
    >>
    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS], May 29, 2009
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