Unwanted scheduled cleaning

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by Richard Roseweir, Jun 18, 2010.

  1. Am using Windows XP sp3 and IE8

    Seemingly, there is an unwanted schedule cleaning of personal log-in
    information, cookies and Temporary Internet Files occurring in the IE8
    browser on my computer.

    Every 3 weeks (possibly 4 but I'm not sure since no record keeping to
    verify) all my personal log-in information and cookies are being
    automatically deleted. Consequently, every 3 or 4 (??/) weeks I am having
    to re-enter all my log-in information for frequently visited sites such as
    member forums, banking, government, time-and-date.

    Are there any settings which by default, or due to recent Microsoft Updates,
    allow Windows / IE8 to do this unwanted cleaning on a scheduled basis?

    I have configured IE8 to not delete the Temporary Internet Files when
    shutting down (see Tools > Internet Options > Advanced tab.)

    I have no 3rd party Registry or Disk cleaners to contend with.

    I use McAfee AntiVirus Plus as a resident virus, trojan and malware scanner.
    It is scheduled to scan my system twice a week for such baddies. It has a
    QuickClean tool that can be manually operated to effect cleaning but it does
    not appear that it can be configured to automatically run on a predetermined
    basis.

    I also use the free, manual version of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM) to
    scan my entire disk on a weekly basis.

    Richard Roseweir
    Surrey, BC, Canada.
     
    Richard Roseweir, Jun 18, 2010
    #1
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  2. > I use McAfee AntiVirus Plus as a resident virus, trojan and malware
    > scanner.


    How long has McAfee AntiVirus Plus been installed & is your subscription
    still current?

    What anti-virus application was installed before you installed McAfee
    AntiVirus Plus and was that subscription still current?

    Did a McAfee or Norton free trial come preinstalled on the computer when you
    bought it?

    Was McAfee AntiVirus Plus running in the background when you installed IE8
    and/or SP3?

    Have you ever had occasion to do a Repair Install of WinXP?
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


    Richard Roseweir wrote:
    > Am using Windows XP sp3 and IE8
    >
    > Seemingly, there is an unwanted schedule cleaning of personal log-in
    > information, cookies and Temporary Internet Files occurring in the IE8
    > browser on my computer.
    >
    > Every 3 weeks (possibly 4 but I'm not sure since no record keeping to
    > verify) all my personal log-in information and cookies are being
    > automatically deleted. Consequently, every 3 or 4 (??/) weeks I am having
    > to re-enter all my log-in information for frequently visited sites such as
    > member forums, banking, government, time-and-date.
    >
    > Are there any settings which by default, or due to recent Microsoft
    > Updates,
    > allow Windows / IE8 to do this unwanted cleaning on a scheduled basis?
    >
    > I have configured IE8 to not delete the Temporary Internet Files when
    > shutting down (see Tools > Internet Options > Advanced tab.)
    >
    > I have no 3rd party Registry or Disk cleaners to contend with.
    >
    > I use McAfee AntiVirus Plus as a resident virus, trojan and malware
    > scanner.
    > It is scheduled to scan my system twice a week for such baddies. It has a
    > QuickClean tool that can be manually operated to effect cleaning but it
    > does
    > not appear that it can be configured to automatically run on a
    > predetermined
    > basis.
    >
    > I also use the free, manual version of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM) to
    > scan my entire disk on a weekly basis.
    >
    > Richard Roseweir
    > Surrey, BC, Canada.
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 18, 2010
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  3. Richard Roseweir

    Leonard Grey Guest

    Internet Explorer has no scheduled cleaning. Try your other software.
    ---
    Leonard Grey
    Errare humanum est

    Richard Roseweir wrote:
    > Am using Windows XP sp3 and IE8
    >
    > Seemingly, there is an unwanted schedule cleaning of personal log-in
    > information, cookies and Temporary Internet Files occurring in the IE8
    > browser on my computer.
    >
    > Every 3 weeks (possibly 4 but I'm not sure since no record keeping to
    > verify) all my personal log-in information and cookies are being
    > automatically deleted. Consequently, every 3 or 4 (??/) weeks I am having
    > to re-enter all my log-in information for frequently visited sites such as
    > member forums, banking, government, time-and-date.
    >
    > Are there any settings which by default, or due to recent Microsoft Updates,
    > allow Windows / IE8 to do this unwanted cleaning on a scheduled basis?
    >
    > I have configured IE8 to not delete the Temporary Internet Files when
    > shutting down (see Tools > Internet Options > Advanced tab.)
    >
    > I have no 3rd party Registry or Disk cleaners to contend with.
    >
    > I use McAfee AntiVirus Plus as a resident virus, trojan and malware scanner.
    > It is scheduled to scan my system twice a week for such baddies. It has a
    > QuickClean tool that can be manually operated to effect cleaning but it does
    > not appear that it can be configured to automatically run on a predetermined
    > basis.
    >
    > I also use the free, manual version of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM) to
    > scan my entire disk on a weekly basis.
    >
    > Richard Roseweir
    > Surrey, BC, Canada.
    >
    >
    >
     
    Leonard Grey, Jun 19, 2010
    #3
  4. "Richard Roseweir" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Am using Windows XP sp3 and IE8
    >
    > Seemingly, there is an unwanted schedule cleaning of personal log-in
    > information, cookies and Temporary Internet Files occurring in the IE8
    > browser on my computer.
    >
    > Every 3 weeks (possibly 4 but I'm not sure since no record keeping to
    > verify) all my personal log-in information and cookies are being
    > automatically deleted. Consequently, every 3 or 4 (??/) weeks I am having
    > to re-enter all my log-in information for frequently visited sites such as
    > member forums, banking, government, time-and-date.
    >
    > Are there any settings which by default, or due to recent Microsoft
    > Updates, allow Windows / IE8 to do this unwanted cleaning on a scheduled
    > basis?
    >
    > I have configured IE8 to not delete the Temporary Internet Files when
    > shutting down (see Tools > Internet Options > Advanced tab.)
    >
    > I have no 3rd party Registry or Disk cleaners to contend with.
    >
    > I use McAfee AntiVirus Plus as a resident virus, trojan and malware
    > scanner. It is scheduled to scan my system twice a week for such baddies.
    > It has a QuickClean tool that can be manually operated to effect cleaning
    > but it does not appear that it can be configured to automatically run on a
    > predetermined basis.
    >
    > I also use the free, manual version of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM) to
    > scan my entire disk on a weekly basis.
    >
    > Richard Roseweir
    > Surrey, BC, Canada.
    >
    >
    >


    There is no scheduled cleanout of IE files.

    The files will be deleted on each exit of Internet Explorer, or they will be
    held until a certain (adjustable) filesize is attained, then the oldest
    files will be deleted to make room for new files to be stored. There is no
    other "prederermined schedule" for cleaning.

    It might _look_ as if an old cookie is deleted on a schedule if you have the
    size threshold set to a particular level. the coolie gets written, a couple
    of weeks go by and new files come in, and the old file eventually drops out
    the back because it is old and the space is needed for a new file.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Jun 19, 2010
    #4
  5. Good morning everybody,

    Thank you for your replies. Seriously, this group rocks!

    I've had a look at the Cookies and Temporary Internet Files on my computer,
    including those generated by Opera, did a massive cleanup using the relevant
    Windows tools. Interesting to see that this self-driven, intentional
    cleanup also removed all my log-in information and webpage settings. I've
    reset all those (Bah!) and documented today's date.

    By the way, happy Father's Day everyone.

    I'll be a little more diligent in regularly cleaning out the junk (to keep
    default folder sizes small) and look for way in which I can preserve the
    specific personal information while still being able to do a regular general
    cleanup. (the existing offering seems unable to separate the sheep from the
    wolves...and simply kills everything (Bah!)

    Happy computing here and elsewhere.

    Richard,
    Surrey, BC, Canada.
     
    Richard Roseweir, Jun 20, 2010
    #5
  6. Richard Roseweir

    Bob Lucas Guest

    You could install CCleaner on your computer. This program allows
    you to select any cookies you want to preserve - and exclude them
    from subsequent clean-ups. You can download the latest version
    of CCleaner from www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner.

    Review the various options carefully, when you install the
    program - and opt out of any features you don't require. For
    instance, I have not installed the Yahoo toolbar. Before you run
    the utility for the first time (and periodically thereafter), you
    should click on Options, followed by Cookies. This option
    displays a complete list of cookies on your computer - and allows
    you to designate those cookies you want to keep. You should also
    decide which folders and Windows features you want to include in
    the Cleaner process.

    Once you have configured the utility according to your personal
    preferences, run the Cleaner process every few weeks. That will
    prevent a build up of unwanted cookies, temporary Internet files,
    and similar dross. If you run it regularly, you will help to
    prevent your Temporary Internet File folder from getting too
    large.

    The CCleaner utility also includes a Registry Cleaner. Registry
    Cleaners have been likened to 'snake oil' and have a reputation
    for causing major problems. They are certainly not for the
    inexperienced and some of them are very dangerous. Consequently,
    many contributors to this newsgroup have advised against the use
    of any Registry Cleaner. There is certainly no need to use the
    Registry Cleaner function, which is an optional feature of
    CCleaner.


    "Richard Roseweir" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Good morning everybody,
    >
    > Thank you for your replies. Seriously, this group rocks!
    >
    > I've had a look at the Cookies and Temporary Internet Files on
    > my computer, including those generated by Opera, did a massive
    > cleanup using the relevant Windows tools. Interesting to see
    > that this self-driven, intentional cleanup also removed all my
    > log-in information and webpage settings. I've reset all those
    > (Bah!) and documented today's date.
    >
    > By the way, happy Father's Day everyone.
    >
    > I'll be a little more diligent in regularly cleaning out the
    > junk (to keep default folder sizes small) and look for way in
    > which I can preserve the specific personal information while
    > still being able to do a regular general cleanup. (the existing
    > offering seems unable to separate the sheep from the
    > wolves...and simply kills everything (Bah!)
    >
    > Happy computing here and elsewhere.
    >
    > Richard,
    > Surrey, BC, Canada.
    >
     
    Bob Lucas, Jun 21, 2010
    #6
  7. That being said, one of CCleaner's plusses is the fact that it prompts you
    to save a back up of any changes you're making using the Registry Integrity
    module. If you choose to use this module, accept those prompts so you will
    be able to undo any changes if need be.
    --
    ~PA Bear

    Bob Lucas wrote:
    <snip>
    > The CCleaner utility also includes a Registry Cleaner. Registry
    > Cleaners have been likened to 'snake oil' and have a reputation
    > for causing major problems. They are certainly not for the
    > inexperienced and some of them are very dangerous. Consequently,
    > many contributors to this newsgroup have advised against the use
    > of any Registry Cleaner. There is certainly no need to use the
    > Registry Cleaner function, which is an optional feature of
    > CCleaner.

    <snip>
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 21, 2010
    #7
  8. Hello Bob,

    Thank you for the reference to CCleaner as well as the hints, instructions
    and warnings. I shall certainly look into that. It will be interesting to
    see if it can also deal with the junk files left behind by Opera as well.

    Sincerely,
    Richard
    Surrey, BC, Canada.


    "Bob Lucas" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > You could install CCleaner on your computer. This program allows you to
    > select any cookies you want to preserve - and exclude them from subsequent
    > clean-ups. You can download the latest version of CCleaner from
    > www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner.
    >
    > Review the various options carefully, when you install the program - and
    > opt out of any features you don't require. For instance, I have not
    > installed the Yahoo toolbar. Before you run the utility for the first
    > time (and periodically thereafter), you should click on Options, followed
    > by Cookies. This option displays a complete list of cookies on your
    > computer - and allows you to designate those cookies you want to keep.
    > You should also decide which folders and Windows features you want to
    > include in the Cleaner process.
    >
    > Once you have configured the utility according to your personal
    > preferences, run the Cleaner process every few weeks. That will prevent a
    > build up of unwanted cookies, temporary Internet files, and similar dross.
    > If you run it regularly, you will help to prevent your Temporary Internet
    > File folder from getting too large.
    >
    > The CCleaner utility also includes a Registry Cleaner. Registry Cleaners
    > have been likened to 'snake oil' and have a reputation for causing major
    > problems. They are certainly not for the inexperienced and some of them
    > are very dangerous. Consequently, many contributors to this newsgroup
    > have advised against the use of any Registry Cleaner. There is certainly
    > no need to use the Registry Cleaner function, which is an optional feature
    > of CCleaner.
     
    Richard Roseweir, Jun 21, 2010
    #8
  9. "Richard Roseweir" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Am using Windows XP sp3 and IE8
    >
    > Seemingly, there is an unwanted schedule cleaning of personal log-in
    > information, cookies and Temporary Internet Files occurring in the IE8
    > browser on my computer.
    >
    > Every 3 weeks (possibly 4 but I'm not sure since no record keeping to
    > verify) all my personal log-in information and cookies are being
    > automatically deleted. Consequently, every 3 or 4 (??/) weeks I am having
    > to re-enter all my log-in information for frequently visited sites such as
    > member forums, banking, government, time-and-date.
    >
    > Are there any settings which by default, or due to recent Microsoft
    > Updates, allow Windows / IE8 to do this unwanted cleaning on a scheduled
    > basis?
    >
    > I have configured IE8 to not delete the Temporary Internet Files when
    > shutting down (see Tools > Internet Options > Advanced tab.)
    >
    > I have no 3rd party Registry or Disk cleaners to contend with.
    >
    > I use McAfee AntiVirus Plus as a resident virus, trojan and malware
    > scanner. It is scheduled to scan my system twice a week for such baddies.
    > It has a QuickClean tool that can be manually operated to effect cleaning
    > but it does not appear that it can be configured to automatically run on a
    > predetermined basis.
    >
    > I also use the free, manual version of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM) to
    > scan my entire disk on a weekly basis.
    >
    > Richard Roseweir
    > Surrey, BC, Canada.
    >
    >
    >


    I don't use Opera ...

    You've stated that you use Opera, and it occurs to me that Opera and IE use
    the same set of cookies and temporary internet files, and so on. You might
    have settings within Opera that are time-based that cause clean-ups based on
    time instead of space.

    You need to look at Opera settings.

    It makes sense that all browsers would share cookies, history, and temp
    files, else you would have multiple instances of the same information,
    taking up extra space that most users would not want to be taken up. There
    is no reason the files can't be shared, and lots of reasons why files should
    be shared. I only bring this up because it looks as if you think all of the
    different browsers have walls between them to prevent them from using the
    same files. Your bank doesn't know or care that you're checking your account
    balance with Opera, Chrome, Internet Explorer, FireFox, or whatever. If you
    had a different cookie for each of these to store your logiin name, then
    you'd need a half-dozen cookies to do the job that one cookie can do.

    If you had IE set to delete all temp files on exit, and checked your bank
    account then closed, then used Opera to check the same account tomorrow, the
    cookie with your login would be gone and you'd have to do it again. Then you
    use FireFox to check in a few days, and the login goes well so you don't
    think about it. Then a few more days go by and you use IE again, and the
    login cookie is deleted when IE is closed because you have a setting checked
    to delete on exit.

    You could have the Delete On Exit setting selected in any of your browsers,
    so you might see that the login doesn't work in IE, and think IE is the
    problem. The real problem is the browser you used BEFORE you noticed you had
    to reenter your login.

    PS
    The bank example is very poor because if you ever wanted to retype your
    login with every visit, it would be visits to the bank. You probably don't
    want your bank to drop cookies into your machine that store stuff like your
    login. In the example, consider "bank" as an illustration, not an actual
    cookie that stores your information.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Jun 21, 2010
    #9
  10. Richard Roseweir

    Rob Guest

    Jeff Strickland <> wrote:
    > It makes sense that all browsers would share cookies, history, and temp
    > files, else you would have multiple instances of the same information,
    > taking up extra space that most users would not want to be taken up. There
    > is no reason the files can't be shared, and lots of reasons why files should
    > be shared.


    One reason why files cannot be shared is when file formats are not
    published, and not all browser vendors want to reverse-engineer another
    browser's format.

    Another reason is that browsers other than Internet Explorer are available
    on other platforms than Windows, and their vendors want to keep the
    format the same across platforms (so that the files can be shared between
    accounts on different platforms. I can share my Seamonkey config between
    Windows and Linux, when I am careful)
    So file formats tend to be tied to the particular browser, not to the
    operating system it is running on.
     
    Rob, Jun 21, 2010
    #10
  11. Richard Roseweir

    Dan Guest

    "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
    news:hvnvre$vu5$-september.org...
    >
    > "Richard Roseweir" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Am using Windows XP sp3 and IE8
    >>
    >> Seemingly, there is an unwanted schedule cleaning of personal log-in
    >> information, cookies and Temporary Internet Files occurring in the IE8
    >> browser on my computer.
    >>
    >> Every 3 weeks (possibly 4 but I'm not sure since no record keeping to
    >> verify) all my personal log-in information and cookies are being
    >> automatically deleted. Consequently, every 3 or 4 (??/) weeks I am
    >> having to re-enter all my log-in information for frequently visited sites
    >> such as member forums, banking, government, time-and-date.
    >>
    >> Are there any settings which by default, or due to recent Microsoft
    >> Updates, allow Windows / IE8 to do this unwanted cleaning on a scheduled
    >> basis?
    >>
    >> I have configured IE8 to not delete the Temporary Internet Files when
    >> shutting down (see Tools > Internet Options > Advanced tab.)
    >>
    >> I have no 3rd party Registry or Disk cleaners to contend with.
    >>
    >> I use McAfee AntiVirus Plus as a resident virus, trojan and malware
    >> scanner. It is scheduled to scan my system twice a week for such baddies.
    >> It has a QuickClean tool that can be manually operated to effect cleaning
    >> but it does not appear that it can be configured to automatically run on
    >> a predetermined basis.
    >>
    >> I also use the free, manual version of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM)
    >> to scan my entire disk on a weekly basis.
    >>
    >> Richard Roseweir
    >> Surrey, BC, Canada.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > I don't use Opera ...
    >
    > You've stated that you use Opera, and it occurs to me that Opera and IE
    > use the same set of cookies and temporary internet files, and so on. You
    > might have settings within Opera that are time-based that cause clean-ups
    > based on time instead of space.
    >
    > You need to look at Opera settings.
    >
    > It makes sense that all browsers would share cookies, history, and temp
    > files, else you would have multiple instances of the same information,
    > taking up extra space that most users would not want to be taken up. There
    > is no reason the files can't be shared, and lots of reasons why files
    > should be shared. I only bring this up because it looks as if you think
    > all of the different browsers have walls between them to prevent them from
    > using the same files. Your bank doesn't know or care that you're checking
    > your account balance with Opera, Chrome, Internet Explorer, FireFox, or
    > whatever. If you had a different cookie for each of these to store your
    > logiin name, then you'd need a half-dozen cookies to do the job that one
    > cookie can do.


    Jeff, you really shouldn't write stuff you know nothing about. Each browser
    stores it's own files in it's own locations, none of them from different
    developers share stuff. If they did it would be an unmitigated disaster,
    especially when running more than 1 browser at a time. It certainly does not
    make sense that they share files, and as Rob says they use different formats
    (mostly undocumented) for files and they'd be breaking each other all the
    time.

    I have FF, Opera, and IE on my development system, and they definitely do
    not share settings. I'd be pretty unhappy if cookies or browsing history set
    in IE, for instance, were available in FF or Opera.

    --
    Dan
     
    Dan, Jun 21, 2010
    #11
  12. Richard Roseweir

    Bob Lucas Guest

    Hello Richard

    On my computer, CCleaner provides the following cleaning options
    for various browsers:

    Internet Explorer -
    Cookies
    History
    Recently typed URLs
    Index.dat files
    Last download location
    Autocomplete form history
    (I have checked the first two only)

    Firefox/Mozilla -
    Temporary Internet Files
    Cookies
    Download History
    Internet Cache
    Internet History
    Saved form information
    Compact databases
    Recently typed URLs
    (I have checked Cookies and Internet cache only)

    Opera -
    Cookies
    Internet Cache
    Internet History
    Website icons
    (I have checked the first two only)

    The help pages state that the selective cleaning function is
    compatible with cookies from all Internet browsers and Flash
    plugins.


    "Richard Roseweir" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello Bob,
    >
    > Thank you for the reference to CCleaner as well as the hints,
    > instructions and warnings. I shall certainly look into that.
    > It will be interesting to see if it can also deal with the junk
    > files left behind by Opera as well.
    >
    > Sincerely,
    > Richard
    > Surrey, BC, Canada.
    >
    >
    > "Bob Lucas" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>
    >> You could install CCleaner on your computer. This program
    >> allows you to select any cookies you want to preserve - and
    >> exclude them from subsequent clean-ups. You can download the
    >> latest version of CCleaner from
    >> www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner.
    >>
    >> Review the various options carefully, when you install the
    >> program - and opt out of any features you don't require. For
    >> instance, I have not installed the Yahoo toolbar. Before you
    >> run the utility for the first time (and periodically
    >> thereafter), you should click on Options, followed by Cookies.
    >> This option displays a complete list of cookies on your
    >> computer - and allows you to designate those cookies you want
    >> to keep. You should also decide which folders and Windows
    >> features you want to include in the Cleaner process.
    >>
    >> Once you have configured the utility according to your
    >> personal preferences, run the Cleaner process every few weeks.
    >> That will prevent a build up of unwanted cookies, temporary
    >> Internet files, and similar dross. If you run it regularly,
    >> you will help to prevent your Temporary Internet File folder
    >> from getting too large.
    >>
    >> The CCleaner utility also includes a Registry Cleaner.
    >> Registry Cleaners have been likened to 'snake oil' and have a
    >> reputation for causing major problems. They are certainly not
    >> for the inexperienced and some of them are very dangerous.
    >> Consequently, many contributors to this newsgroup have advised
    >> against the use of any Registry Cleaner. There is certainly
    >> no need to use the Registry Cleaner function, which is an
    >> optional feature of CCleaner.

    >
    >
     
    Bob Lucas, Jun 21, 2010
    #12
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