Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a domain

Discussion in 'Windows Server' started by dbright19, Oct 6, 2008.

  1. dbright19

    dbright19 Guest

    The time on our servers (and domain) is about 5 to 8 minutes fast. I am
    trying use an external source to set time in a domain environment. I have
    been having problems following the directions in the following article:
    How to configure an authoritative time server in Windows Server 2003
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;816042
    I have two w2k3 standard edition SP2 servers. One server is the PDC, but
    when you type net time, it is pointing to the GP server. On the GP server it
    points to itself. I have made all suggested changes in the above article,
    and tried different time servers. I even tried using the command line:
    net time: / setsntp:timesource - completed but no change, also tried:
    w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:TimeServer(both w/ 0x1 and w/o)
    /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update -- NADA
    On the PDC - the log indicates:
    Event ID: 35, the time service is now synchronizing the system time with the
    time source gp.local (nep.dl192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
    If go to the GP and try the same command, (get 2 different errors:)
    Event ID: 14, The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain
    controller to use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in x min.
    Event ID: 29, The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from
    one or more time sources; however none of the sources are currently
    accessible.

    I have opened port 123, and pinged the time server, but get the same results.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
     
    dbright19, Oct 6, 2008
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  2. "dbright19" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > The time on our servers (and domain) is about 5 to 8 minutes fast. I am



    dbright19,

    Reread the time sync documents. Your main DC - (the one with the FMSO
    roles - there is no "PDC") should get its time from an authoritative
    external source, not from the GP Server.

    See -

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/262680

    http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers


    Every other domain member will sync to the DC, including the GP Server,
    if it is a member of the same domain.

    Regards,

    Leonard Agoado
     
    Leonard Agoado, Oct 7, 2008
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  3. Hello dbright19,

    On one of the DC's run "netdom query fsmo" in a command line and find the
    DC which holds the PDCEmulator role. On this DC you have to set the external
    time source. If netdom is not found on the machine, install the support\tools\suptools.msi
    on the DC from the installation disk.

    w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:peers /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update

    With "peers" you can set the time source, either DNS name (time.windows.com)
    or an ip address from a reliable time source.

    Here you can find some of them:
    http://www.pool.ntp.org/


    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > The time on our servers (and domain) is about 5 to 8 minutes fast. I
    > am
    > trying use an external source to set time in a domain environment. I
    > have
    > been having problems following the directions in the following
    > article:
    > How to configure an authoritative time server in Windows Server 2003
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;816042
    > I have two w2k3 standard edition SP2 servers. One server is the PDC,
    > but
    > when you type net time, it is pointing to the GP server. On the GP
    > server it
    > points to itself. I have made all suggested changes in the above
    > article,
    > and tried different time servers. I even tried using the command
    > line:
    > net time: / setsntp:timesource - completed but no change, also tried:
    > w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:TimeServer(both w/ 0x1 and w/o)
    > /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update -- NADA
    > On the PDC - the log indicates:
    > Event ID: 35, the time service is now synchronizing the system time
    > with the
    > time source gp.local (nep.dl192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
    > If go to the GP and try the same command, (get 2 different errors:)
    > Event ID: 14, The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain
    > controller to use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in x
    > min.
    > Event ID: 29, The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire
    > time from
    > one or more time sources; however none of the sources are currently
    > accessible.
    > I have opened port 123, and pinged the time server, but get the same
    > results.
    >
    > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
     
    Meinolf Weber, Oct 7, 2008
    #3
  4. dbright19

    dbright19 Guest

    Re: Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a do

    I followed the suggestions and still have the problem, and thanks for your
    suggestions. I got the following information from running "netdom query
    fsmo" on both the PDC server and the GP server :

    Schema owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local

    Domain role owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local

    PDC role xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local

    RID pool manager xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local

    Infrastructure owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local

    SO:
    PDC: Setup to use external time source
    timex.peachnet.edu --> 131.144.4.9

    w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:131.144.4.9 /syncfromflags:manual
    /reliable:yes /update

    GP:
    w32tm /config /update /syncfromflags:domhier /reliable:yes

    each command completed with no errors. I have the same problem. Both
    servers seem to be looking to GP

    ON THE GP:
    C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    ICMP: 0ms delay.
    NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    ICMP: 0ms delay.
    NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]

    C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 4:21 PM

    From PDC:

    C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    ICMP: 0ms delay.
    NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    ICMP: 0ms delay.
    NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]

    C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM

    Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.

    "Meinolf Weber" wrote:

    > Hello dbright19,
    >
    > On one of the DC's run "netdom query fsmo" in a command line and find the
    > DC which holds the PDCEmulator role. On this DC you have to set the external
    > time source. If netdom is not found on the machine, install the support\tools\suptools.msi
    > on the DC from the installation disk.
    >
    > w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:peers /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update
    >
    > With "peers" you can set the time source, either DNS name (time.windows.com)
    > or an ip address from a reliable time source.
    >
    > Here you can find some of them:
    > http://www.pool.ntp.org/
    >
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Meinolf Weber
    > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    > no rights.
    > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >
    >
    > > The time on our servers (and domain) is about 5 to 8 minutes fast. I
    > > am
    > > trying use an external source to set time in a domain environment. I
    > > have
    > > been having problems following the directions in the following
    > > article:
    > > How to configure an authoritative time server in Windows Server 2003
    > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;816042
    > > I have two w2k3 standard edition SP2 servers. One server is the PDC,
    > > but
    > > when you type net time, it is pointing to the GP server. On the GP
    > > server it
    > > points to itself. I have made all suggested changes in the above
    > > article,
    > > and tried different time servers. I even tried using the command
    > > line:
    > > net time: / setsntp:timesource - completed but no change, also tried:
    > > w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:TimeServer(both w/ 0x1 and w/o)
    > > /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update -- NADA
    > > On the PDC - the log indicates:
    > > Event ID: 35, the time service is now synchronizing the system time
    > > with the
    > > time source gp.local (nep.dl192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
    > > If go to the GP and try the same command, (get 2 different errors:)
    > > Event ID: 14, The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain
    > > controller to use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in x
    > > min.
    > > Event ID: 29, The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire
    > > time from
    > > one or more time sources; however none of the sources are currently
    > > accessible.
    > > I have opened port 123, and pinged the time server, but get the same
    > > results.
    > >
    > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > >

    >
    >
    >
     
    dbright19, Oct 7, 2008
    #4
  5. Re: Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a do

    Hello dbright19,

    What is your GP server?

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > I followed the suggestions and still have the problem, and thanks for
    > your suggestions. I got the following information from running
    > "netdom query fsmo" on both the PDC server and the GP server :
    >
    > Schema owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local
    >
    > Domain role owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local
    >
    > PDC role xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local
    >
    > RID pool manager xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local
    >
    > Infrastructure owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local
    >
    > SO:
    > PDC: Setup to use external time source
    > timex.peachnet.edu --> 131.144.4.9
    > w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:131.144.4.9 /syncfromflags:manual
    > /reliable:yes /update
    >
    > GP:
    > w32tm /config /update /syncfromflags:domhier /reliable:yes
    > each command completed with no errors. I have the same problem. Both
    > servers seem to be looking to GP
    >
    > ON THE GP:
    > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    > pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    > ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    > gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    > ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
    > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    > Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 4:21 PM
    > From PDC:
    >
    > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    > pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    > ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    > gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    > ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
    > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    > Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
    > Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
    >
    > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
    >
    >> Hello dbright19,
    >>
    >> On one of the DC's run "netdom query fsmo" in a command line and find
    >> the DC which holds the PDCEmulator role. On this DC you have to set
    >> the external time source. If netdom is not found on the machine,
    >> install the support\tools\suptools.msi on the DC from the
    >> installation disk.
    >>
    >> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:peers /syncfromflags:manual
    >> /reliable:yes /update
    >>
    >> With "peers" you can set the time source, either DNS name
    >> (time.windows.com) or an ip address from a reliable time source.
    >>
    >> Here you can find some of them:
    >> http://www.pool.ntp.org/
    >> Best regards
    >>
    >> Meinolf Weber
    >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    >> confers
    >> no rights.
    >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>> The time on our servers (and domain) is about 5 to 8 minutes fast.
    >>> I
    >>> am
    >>> trying use an external source to set time in a domain environment.
    >>> I
    >>> have
    >>> been having problems following the directions in the following
    >>> article:
    >>> How to configure an authoritative time server in Windows Server 2003
    >>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;816042
    >>> I have two w2k3 standard edition SP2 servers. One server is the
    >>> PDC,
    >>> but
    >>> when you type net time, it is pointing to the GP server. On the GP
    >>> server it
    >>> points to itself. I have made all suggested changes in the above
    >>> article,
    >>> and tried different time servers. I even tried using the command
    >>> line:
    >>> net time: / setsntp:timesource - completed but no change, also
    >>> tried:
    >>> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:TimeServer(both w/ 0x1 and w/o)
    >>> /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update -- NADA
    >>> On the PDC - the log indicates:
    >>> Event ID: 35, the time service is now synchronizing the system time
    >>> with the
    >>> time source gp.local (nep.dl192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
    >>> If go to the GP and try the same command, (get 2 different errors:)
    >>> Event ID: 14, The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a
    >>> domain
    >>> controller to use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in x
    >>> min.
    >>> Event ID: 29, The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire
    >>> time from
    >>> one or more time sources; however none of the sources are currently
    >>> accessible.
    >>> I have opened port 123, and pinged the time server, but get the same
    >>> results.
    >>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks,
    >>>
     
    Meinolf Weber, Oct 7, 2008
    #5
  6. Re: Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a do

    "dbright19" <> wrote


    > From PDC:
    >
    > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    > pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    > ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    > gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    > ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
    >
    > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    > Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
    >
    > Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.




    dbright19,

    On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you
    restart the Windows Time service?

    Regards,

    Leonard Agoado
     
    Leonard Agoado, Oct 7, 2008
    #6
  7. dbright19

    dbright19 Guest

    Re: Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a do

    The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.

    The GP Event Log:

    Source: W32Time
    Event ID: 29
    Computer: GP

    The time provider NtpClient is configured to
    acquire time from one or more time sources,
    however none of the sources are currently
    accessible. No attempt to contact a source
    will be made for 15 minutes . NtpClient has
    no source of accurate time.

    For more information, see Help and Support Center
    at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

    REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to
    30 / 60 / 120 / 240 / 480.


    Also at same time:
    Source: w32Time
    Event ID: 14
    Computer: GP

    The time provider NtpClient was unable to find
    a domain controller to use as a time source.
    NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.

    For more information, see Help and Support Center
    at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.



    Event log On PDC:

    Source: W32Time
    Event ID: 35
    Computer: PDC

    The time service is now synchronizing the
    system time with the time source
    gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).

    For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.





    "Leonard Agoado" wrote:

    >
    > "dbright19" <> wrote
    >
    >
    > > From PDC:
    > >
    > > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    > > pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    > > ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > > NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > > RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    > > gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    > > ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > > NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > > RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
    > >
    > > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    > > Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
    > >
    > > Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.

    >
    >
    >
    > dbright19,
    >
    > On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you
    > restart the Windows Time service?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Leonard Agoado
    >
    >
    >
    >
     
    dbright19, Oct 8, 2008
    #7
  8. Re: Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a do

    Hello dbright19,

    Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from 192.168.1.14 and 192.168.1.22
    Which of them is the PDCEmulator?

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.
    >
    > The GP Event Log:
    >
    > Source: W32Time Event ID: 29 Computer: GP
    >
    > The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from one or
    > more time sources, however none of the sources are currently
    > accessible. No attempt to contact a source will be made for 15
    > minutes . NtpClient has no source of accurate time.
    >
    > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    >
    > REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to 30 / 60 / 120 / 240 / 480.
    >
    > Also at same time:
    > Source: w32Time
    > Event ID: 14
    > Computer: GP
    > The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain controller to
    > use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.
    >
    > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    >
    > Event log On PDC:
    >
    > Source: W32Time
    > Event ID: 35
    > Computer: PDC
    > The time service is now synchronizing the system time with the time
    > source gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
    >
    > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    >
    > "Leonard Agoado" wrote:
    >
    >> "dbright19" <> wrote
    >>
    >>> From PDC:
    >>>
    >>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    >>> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    >>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    >>> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    >>> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    >>> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    >>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    >>> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    >>> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
    >>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    >>> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
    >>> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
    >>>

    >> dbright19,
    >>
    >> On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you restart the
    >> Windows Time service?
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >>
    >> Leonard Agoado
    >>
     
    Meinolf Weber, Oct 8, 2008
    #8
  9. dbright19

    dbright19 Guest

    Re: Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a do

    Note: I can ping the NTP server selected from both servers, and port 123 is
    open.

    IPCONFIG INFO:

    GP:

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : gp
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet
    Adapter (1
    0/100)
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : yy-yy-yy-yy-yy-yy
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.22
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    192.168.1.10
    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10

    C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>

    PDC:


    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pdc
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    DOMAINNAME

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : DOMAINNAME
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI TX NIC
    (3C90
    5B-TX)
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
    192.168.1.11

    C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>


    "Meinolf Weber" wrote:

    > Hello dbright19,
    >
    > Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from 192.168.1.14 and 192.168.1.22
    > Which of them is the PDCEmulator?
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Meinolf Weber
    > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    > no rights.
    > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >
    >
    > > The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.
    > >
    > > The GP Event Log:
    > >
    > > Source: W32Time Event ID: 29 Computer: GP
    > >
    > > The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from one or
    > > more time sources, however none of the sources are currently
    > > accessible. No attempt to contact a source will be made for 15
    > > minutes . NtpClient has no source of accurate time.
    > >
    > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    > >
    > > REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to 30 / 60 / 120 / 240 / 480.
    > >
    > > Also at same time:
    > > Source: w32Time
    > > Event ID: 14
    > > Computer: GP
    > > The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain controller to
    > > use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.
    > >
    > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    > >
    > > Event log On PDC:
    > >
    > > Source: W32Time
    > > Event ID: 35
    > > Computer: PDC
    > > The time service is now synchronizing the system time with the time
    > > source gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
    > >
    > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    > >
    > > "Leonard Agoado" wrote:
    > >
    > >> "dbright19" <> wrote
    > >>
    > >>> From PDC:
    > >>>
    > >>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    > >>> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    > >>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > >>> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > >>> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    > >>> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    > >>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > >>> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > >>> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
    > >>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    > >>> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
    > >>> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
    > >>>
    > >> dbright19,
    > >>
    > >> On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you restart the
    > >> Windows Time service?
    > >>
    > >> Regards,
    > >>
    > >> Leonard Agoado
    > >>

    >
    >
    >
     
    dbright19, Oct 8, 2008
    #9
  10. Re: Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a do

    Hello dbright19,

    Because all computers in a domain belongs to the time on the PDCEmulator
    it can not use a domain member as time server. The x.x.x.22 is domain internal.

    On the PDCEmulator you have to configure to an domain EXTERNAL time server.
    See this one:
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc786897.aspx

    Or see "Configuring the Windows Time service to use an internal hardware
    clock":
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042

    In a domain the PDCEmulator is the time source, all DC's sync with it and
    all member servers and workstations sync with one available DC, that's the
    way in a domain.

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > Note: I can ping the NTP server selected from both servers, and port
    > 123 is open.
    >
    > IPCONFIG INFO:
    >
    > GP:
    >
    > Windows IP Configuration
    >
    > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : gp
    > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
    >
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet
    > Adapter (1
    > 0/100)
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : yy-yy-yy-yy-yy-yy
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.22
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > 192.168.1.10
    > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
    > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
    >
    > PDC:
    >
    > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pdc
    > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > DOMAINNAME
    > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    >
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : DOMAINNAME
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI TX
    > NIC
    > (3C90
    > 5B-TX)
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
    > 192.168.1.11
    > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
    >
    > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
    >
    >> Hello dbright19,
    >>
    >> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from 192.168.1.14 and
    >> 192.168.1.22 Which of them is the PDCEmulator?
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >>
    >> Meinolf Weber
    >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    >> confers
    >> no rights.
    >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>> The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.
    >>>
    >>> The GP Event Log:
    >>>
    >>> Source: W32Time Event ID: 29 Computer: GP
    >>>
    >>> The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from one
    >>> or more time sources, however none of the sources are currently
    >>> accessible. No attempt to contact a source will be made for 15
    >>> minutes . NtpClient has no source of accurate time.
    >>>
    >>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    >>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    >>>
    >>> REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to 30 / 60 / 120 / 240 /
    >>> 480.
    >>>
    >>> Also at same time:
    >>> Source: w32Time
    >>> Event ID: 14
    >>> Computer: GP
    >>> The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain controller
    >>> to
    >>> use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.
    >>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    >>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    >>>
    >>> Event log On PDC:
    >>>
    >>> Source: W32Time
    >>> Event ID: 35
    >>> Computer: PDC
    >>> The time service is now synchronizing the system time with the time
    >>> source gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
    >>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    >>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    >>>
    >>> "Leonard Agoado" wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "dbright19" <> wrote
    >>>>
    >>>>> From PDC:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    >>>>> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    >>>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    >>>>> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    >>>>> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    >>>>> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    >>>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    >>>>> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    >>>>> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
    >>>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    >>>>> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
    >>>>> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
    >>>> dbright19,
    >>>>
    >>>> On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you restart
    >>>> the Windows Time service?
    >>>>
    >>>> Regards,
    >>>>
    >>>> Leonard Agoado
    >>>>
     
    Meinolf Weber, Oct 8, 2008
    #10
  11. dbright19

    dbright19 Guest

    Re: Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a do

    Thank you. I have reviewed the link, and I get the following results:

    C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /stripchart /computer:131:144.4.9
    /samples:10 /dataonly
    The following error occurred: No such service is known. The service cannot
    be fo
    und in the specified name space. (0x8007277C)

    "Meinolf Weber" wrote:

    > Hello dbright19,
    >
    > Because all computers in a domain belongs to the time on the PDCEmulator
    > it can not use a domain member as time server. The x.x.x.22 is domain internal.
    >
    > On the PDCEmulator you have to configure to an domain EXTERNAL time server.
    > See this one:
    > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc786897.aspx
    >
    > Or see "Configuring the Windows Time service to use an internal hardware
    > clock":
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042
    >
    > In a domain the PDCEmulator is the time source, all DC's sync with it and
    > all member servers and workstations sync with one available DC, that's the
    > way in a domain.
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Meinolf Weber
    > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    > no rights.
    > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >
    >
    > > Note: I can ping the NTP server selected from both servers, and port
    > > 123 is open.
    > >
    > > IPCONFIG INFO:
    > >
    > > GP:
    > >
    > > Windows IP Configuration
    > >
    > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : gp
    > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
    > >
    > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet
    > > Adapter (1
    > > 0/100)
    > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : yy-yy-yy-yy-yy-yy
    > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.22
    > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > > 192.168.1.10
    > > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
    > > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
    > >
    > > PDC:
    > >
    > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pdc
    > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > > DOMAINNAME
    > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    > >
    > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : DOMAINNAME
    > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI TX
    > > NIC
    > > (3C90
    > > 5B-TX)
    > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
    > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
    > > 192.168.1.11
    > > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
    > >
    > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
    > >
    > >> Hello dbright19,
    > >>
    > >> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from 192.168.1.14 and
    > >> 192.168.1.22 Which of them is the PDCEmulator?
    > >>
    > >> Best regards
    > >>
    > >> Meinolf Weber
    > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    > >> confers
    > >> no rights.
    > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    > >>> The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.
    > >>>
    > >>> The GP Event Log:
    > >>>
    > >>> Source: W32Time Event ID: 29 Computer: GP
    > >>>
    > >>> The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from one
    > >>> or more time sources, however none of the sources are currently
    > >>> accessible. No attempt to contact a source will be made for 15
    > >>> minutes . NtpClient has no source of accurate time.
    > >>>
    > >>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > >>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    > >>>
    > >>> REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to 30 / 60 / 120 / 240 /
    > >>> 480.
    > >>>
    > >>> Also at same time:
    > >>> Source: w32Time
    > >>> Event ID: 14
    > >>> Computer: GP
    > >>> The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain controller
    > >>> to
    > >>> use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.
    > >>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > >>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    > >>>
    > >>> Event log On PDC:
    > >>>
    > >>> Source: W32Time
    > >>> Event ID: 35
    > >>> Computer: PDC
    > >>> The time service is now synchronizing the system time with the time
    > >>> source gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
    > >>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > >>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    > >>>
    > >>> "Leonard Agoado" wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>> "dbright19" <> wrote
    > >>>>
    > >>>>> From PDC:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    > >>>>> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    > >>>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > >>>>> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > >>>>> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    > >>>>> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    > >>>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > >>>>> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > >>>>> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
    > >>>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    > >>>>> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
    > >>>>> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
    > >>>> dbright19,
    > >>>>
    > >>>> On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you restart
    > >>>> the Windows Time service?
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Regards,
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Leonard Agoado
    > >>>>

    >
    >
    >
     
    dbright19, Oct 8, 2008
    #11
  12. Re: Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a do

    Hello dbright19,

    Your command:
    w32tm /stripchart /computer:131:144.4.9 /samples:10 /dataonly

    should be:
    w32tm /stripchart /computer:131.144.4.9 /samples:10 /dataonly

    Difference is the ":" between 131 and 144, must be "." Or is it a typo?

    If i run w32tm /stripchart /computer:131.144.4.9 /samples:10 /dataonly:
    Tracking 131.144.4.9 [131.144.4.9:123].
    Collecting 10 samples.
    The current time is 08-Oct-08 19:11:04 PM.
    19:11:04, +08.0482054s
    19:11:07, error: 0x800705B4
    19:11:10, +08.0485200s
    19:11:12, +08.0479481s
    19:11:14, +08.0485672s
    19:11:16, +08.0495947s
    19:11:19, +08.0493827s
    19:11:21, +08.0492199s
    19:11:23, +08.0493328s
    19:11:26, +08.0491118s

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > Thank you. I have reviewed the link, and I get the following results:
    >
    > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /stripchart
    > /computer:131:144.4.9
    > /samples:10 /dataonly
    > The following error occurred: No such service is known. The service
    > cannot
    > be fo
    > und in the specified name space. (0x8007277C)
    > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
    >
    >> Hello dbright19,
    >>
    >> Because all computers in a domain belongs to the time on the
    >> PDCEmulator it can not use a domain member as time server. The
    >> x.x.x.22 is domain internal.
    >>
    >> On the PDCEmulator you have to configure to an domain EXTERNAL time
    >> server.
    >> See this one:
    >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc786897.aspx
    >> Or see "Configuring the Windows Time service to use an internal
    >> hardware
    >> clock":
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042
    >> In a domain the PDCEmulator is the time source, all DC's sync with it
    >> and all member servers and workstations sync with one available DC,
    >> that's the way in a domain.
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >>
    >> Meinolf Weber
    >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    >> confers
    >> no rights.
    >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>> Note: I can ping the NTP server selected from both servers, and
    >>> port 123 is open.
    >>>
    >>> IPCONFIG INFO:
    >>>
    >>> GP:
    >>>
    >>> Windows IP Configuration
    >>>
    >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : gp
    >>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    >>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
    >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet
    >>> Adapter (1
    >>> 0/100)
    >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : yy-yy-yy-yy-yy-yy
    >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.22
    >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    >>> 192.168.1.10
    >>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    >>> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
    >>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
    >>> PDC:
    >>>
    >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pdc
    >>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    >>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    >>> DOMAINNAME
    >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : DOMAINNAME
    >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI TX
    >>> NIC
    >>> (3C90
    >>> 5B-TX)
    >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
    >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    >>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    >>> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
    >>> 192.168.1.11
    >>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
    >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hello dbright19,
    >>>>
    >>>> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from 192.168.1.14 and
    >>>> 192.168.1.22 Which of them is the PDCEmulator?
    >>>>
    >>>> Best regards
    >>>>
    >>>> Meinolf Weber
    >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
    >>>> and
    >>>> confers
    >>>> no rights.
    >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>>>> The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The GP Event Log:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Source: W32Time Event ID: 29 Computer: GP
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from one
    >>>>> or more time sources, however none of the sources are currently
    >>>>> accessible. No attempt to contact a source will be made for 15
    >>>>> minutes . NtpClient has no source of accurate time.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    >>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to 30 / 60 / 120 / 240 /
    >>>>> 480.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Also at same time:
    >>>>> Source: w32Time
    >>>>> Event ID: 14
    >>>>> Computer: GP
    >>>>> The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain controller
    >>>>> to
    >>>>> use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.
    >>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    >>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    >>>>> Event log On PDC:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Source: W32Time
    >>>>> Event ID: 35
    >>>>> Computer: PDC
    >>>>> The time service is now synchronizing the system time with the
    >>>>> time
    >>>>> source gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
    >>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    >>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    >>>>> "Leonard Agoado" wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "dbright19" <> wrote
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> From PDC:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    >>>>>>> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    >>>>>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    >>>>>>> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    >>>>>>> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    >>>>>>> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    >>>>>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    >>>>>>> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    >>>>>>> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
    >>>>>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    >>>>>>> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
    >>>>>>> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
    >>>>>> dbright19,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you restart
    >>>>>> the Windows Time service?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Regards,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Leonard Agoado
    >>>>>>
     
    Meinolf Weber, Oct 8, 2008
    #12
  13. dbright19

    dbright19 Guest

    Re: Using external NTP time source to set time on W2k3 svr in a do

    It was a mistake / typo . Here is the corrected command and the results:

    C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /stripchart /computer:131.44.4.9
    /samples:10/dataonly
    Tracking 131.44.4.9 [131.44.4.9].
    Collecting 10 samples.
    The current time is 10/8/2008 2:13:07 PM (local time).
    14:13:07 error: 0x800705B4
    14:13:10 error: 0x800705B4
    14:13:13 error: 0x800705B4
    14:13:16 error: 0x800705B4
    14:13:19 error: 0x800705B4
    14:13:23 error: 0x800705B4
    14:13:26 error: 0x800705B4
    14:13:29 error: 0x800705B4
    14:13:32 error: 0x800705B4
    14:13:35 error: 0x800705B4

    Any other ideas?

    Thanks in advance.

    "Meinolf Weber" wrote:

    > Hello dbright19,
    >
    > Your command:
    > w32tm /stripchart /computer:131:144.4.9 /samples:10 /dataonly
    >
    > should be:
    > w32tm /stripchart /computer:131.144.4.9 /samples:10 /dataonly
    >
    > Difference is the ":" between 131 and 144, must be "." Or is it a typo?
    >
    > If i run w32tm /stripchart /computer:131.144.4.9 /samples:10 /dataonly:
    > Tracking 131.144.4.9 [131.144.4.9:123].
    > Collecting 10 samples.
    > The current time is 08-Oct-08 19:11:04 PM.
    > 19:11:04, +08.0482054s
    > 19:11:07, error: 0x800705B4
    > 19:11:10, +08.0485200s
    > 19:11:12, +08.0479481s
    > 19:11:14, +08.0485672s
    > 19:11:16, +08.0495947s
    > 19:11:19, +08.0493827s
    > 19:11:21, +08.0492199s
    > 19:11:23, +08.0493328s
    > 19:11:26, +08.0491118s
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Meinolf Weber
    > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    > no rights.
    > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >
    >
    > > Thank you. I have reviewed the link, and I get the following results:
    > >
    > > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /stripchart
    > > /computer:131:144.4.9
    > > /samples:10 /dataonly
    > > The following error occurred: No such service is known. The service
    > > cannot
    > > be fo
    > > und in the specified name space. (0x8007277C)
    > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
    > >
    > >> Hello dbright19,
    > >>
    > >> Because all computers in a domain belongs to the time on the
    > >> PDCEmulator it can not use a domain member as time server. The
    > >> x.x.x.22 is domain internal.
    > >>
    > >> On the PDCEmulator you have to configure to an domain EXTERNAL time
    > >> server.
    > >> See this one:
    > >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc786897.aspx
    > >> Or see "Configuring the Windows Time service to use an internal
    > >> hardware
    > >> clock":
    > >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042
    > >> In a domain the PDCEmulator is the time source, all DC's sync with it
    > >> and all member servers and workstations sync with one available DC,
    > >> that's the way in a domain.
    > >>
    > >> Best regards
    > >>
    > >> Meinolf Weber
    > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    > >> confers
    > >> no rights.
    > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    > >>> Note: I can ping the NTP server selected from both servers, and
    > >>> port 123 is open.
    > >>>
    > >>> IPCONFIG INFO:
    > >>>
    > >>> GP:
    > >>>
    > >>> Windows IP Configuration
    > >>>
    > >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : gp
    > >>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    > >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > >>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
    > >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet
    > >>> Adapter (1
    > >>> 0/100)
    > >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : yy-yy-yy-yy-yy-yy
    > >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.22
    > >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > >>> 192.168.1.10
    > >>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > >>> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
    > >>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
    > >>> PDC:
    > >>>
    > >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pdc
    > >>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    > >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    > >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    > >>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
    > >>> DOMAINNAME
    > >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    > >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : DOMAINNAME
    > >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI TX
    > >>> NIC
    > >>> (3C90
    > >>> 5B-TX)
    > >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
    > >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    > >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > >>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
    > >>> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
    > >>> 192.168.1.11
    > >>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
    > >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>> Hello dbright19,
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from 192.168.1.14 and
    > >>>> 192.168.1.22 Which of them is the PDCEmulator?
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Best regards
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Meinolf Weber
    > >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
    > >>>> and
    > >>>> confers
    > >>>> no rights.
    > >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    > >>>>> The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> The GP Event Log:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Source: W32Time Event ID: 29 Computer: GP
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from one
    > >>>>> or more time sources, however none of the sources are currently
    > >>>>> accessible. No attempt to contact a source will be made for 15
    > >>>>> minutes . NtpClient has no source of accurate time.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > >>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to 30 / 60 / 120 / 240 /
    > >>>>> 480.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Also at same time:
    > >>>>> Source: w32Time
    > >>>>> Event ID: 14
    > >>>>> Computer: GP
    > >>>>> The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain controller
    > >>>>> to
    > >>>>> use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.
    > >>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > >>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    > >>>>> Event log On PDC:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Source: W32Time
    > >>>>> Event ID: 35
    > >>>>> Computer: PDC
    > >>>>> The time service is now synchronizing the system time with the
    > >>>>> time
    > >>>>> source gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
    > >>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
    > >>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    > >>>>> "Leonard Agoado" wrote:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>> "dbright19" <> wrote
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> From PDC:
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
    > >>>>>>> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
    > >>>>>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > >>>>>>> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > >>>>>>> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
    > >>>>>>> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
    > >>>>>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
    > >>>>>>> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
    > >>>>>>> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
    > >>>>>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
    > >>>>>>> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
    > >>>>>>> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
    > >>>>>> dbright19,
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you restart
    > >>>>>> the Windows Time service?
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> Regards,
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> Leonard Agoado
    > >>>>>>

    >
    >
    >
     
    dbright19, Oct 8, 2008
    #13
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