WSUS - optional Drivers and WindowsUpdate.microsoft.com

Discussion in 'Update Services' started by Stefan Tietze, Aug 29, 2005.

  1. I have my WSUS server set up to download all classifications, including
    Drivers, and set them to approve as detect only.
    I have a user which successfully detected all of the critical and security
    patches. So I approved for install and the user installed successfully, and
    the WSUS says there are no more updates to apply.
    However, now when I go to Windows Update from IE on that user's machine, it
    detects 4 optional hardware updates, including HP-Printer driver.
    I filtered WSUS at UPDATES "DRIVERS only" and there are no HP-Printerdrivers.
    Shouldn't the WSUS have also detected those four as an option?
    PLEASE HELP ME! THANKS FOR ALL...
    Stefan Tietze, Aug 29, 2005
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  2. Those updates you see on WindowsUpdate.com.... are they listed on your WSUS
    server??? (Probably not.)

    WSUS clients can only detect Drivers that are available via WSUS.

    "Stefan Tietze" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I have my WSUS server set up to download all classifications, including
    > Drivers, and set them to approve as detect only.
    > I have a user which successfully detected all of the critical and security
    > patches. So I approved for install and the user installed successfully,
    > and
    > the WSUS says there are no more updates to apply.
    > However, now when I go to Windows Update from IE on that user's machine,
    > it
    > detects 4 optional hardware updates, including HP-Printer driver.
    > I filtered WSUS at UPDATES "DRIVERS only" and there are no
    > HP-Printerdrivers.
    > Shouldn't the WSUS have also detected those four as an option?
    > PLEASE HELP ME! THANKS FOR ALL...
    Lawrence Garvin, Aug 29, 2005
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  3. Hy Lawrence
    In WSUS there are no drivers for for example "HP Printer".
    At windowsupdate.microsoft.com there are drivers...
    Why is there a different between WSUS and Windowsupdate?
    I think, it is almost the same service......

    thx for reply...

    "Lawrence Garvin" wrote:

    > Those updates you see on WindowsUpdate.com.... are they listed on your WSUS
    > server??? (Probably not.)
    >
    > WSUS clients can only detect Drivers that are available via WSUS.
    >
    > "Stefan Tietze" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >I have my WSUS server set up to download all classifications, including
    > > Drivers, and set them to approve as detect only.
    > > I have a user which successfully detected all of the critical and security
    > > patches. So I approved for install and the user installed successfully,
    > > and
    > > the WSUS says there are no more updates to apply.
    > > However, now when I go to Windows Update from IE on that user's machine,
    > > it
    > > detects 4 optional hardware updates, including HP-Printer driver.
    > > I filtered WSUS at UPDATES "DRIVERS only" and there are no
    > > HP-Printerdrivers.
    > > Shouldn't the WSUS have also detected those four as an option?
    > > PLEASE HELP ME! THANKS FOR ALL...

    >
    >
    >
    Stefan Tietze, Aug 30, 2005
    #3
  4. There are no drivers for many hardwares, Stefan.

    The "Drivers" portion of WSUS is fraught with many challenges, and for the
    most part is much less mature than the rest of the process, partly because
    it's brand new to this idea of automated patch management, and partly
    because it involves cooperation with hardware vendors (as opposed to
    Microsoft product updates which are all managed internally by MS).

    The general consensus of those who tested the beta and RC is that "Drivers"
    are not yet ready for prime time. Personally, I'm not using WSUS for any
    driver updates. In addition, it's also been my observation that drivers
    released through AU/WU/WSUS tend to be a generation or so older than the
    latest versions available from the manufacturer website, because drivers
    released through AU/WU/WSUS are required to pass WHQL certification and be
    digitally signed. That whole process takes some time.

    Also, in general, video drivers have been problematic from AU/WU, and I'd
    recommend against installing video drivers at all via any remote or
    automated system. On the other hand, I've had very good luck installing
    network and sound drivers from AU/WU.

    As for printer drivers.... for HP, I'd go straight to the HP website to get
    HP drivers.

    To answer your question.. Why are the services different... It has to do
    with the packaging of drivers for automated distribution, and interaction
    with the Windows Update Agent. When you go to WindowsUpdate.com, you (the
    operator at the console) replace that "automated distribution" process, by
    interacting directly with the WU site. Also, drivers need to be updatable
    using WI or update.exe technology, as well as have metadata created for
    WSUS, to be used in the WSUS environment.

    "Stefan Tietze" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hy Lawrence
    > In WSUS there are no drivers for for example "HP Printer".
    > At windowsupdate.microsoft.com there are drivers...
    > Why is there a different between WSUS and Windowsupdate?
    > I think, it is almost the same service......
    >
    > thx for reply...
    >
    > "Lawrence Garvin" wrote:
    >
    >> Those updates you see on WindowsUpdate.com.... are they listed on your
    >> WSUS
    >> server??? (Probably not.)
    >>
    >> WSUS clients can only detect Drivers that are available via WSUS.
    >>
    >> "Stefan Tietze" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> >I have my WSUS server set up to download all classifications, including
    >> > Drivers, and set them to approve as detect only.
    >> > I have a user which successfully detected all of the critical and
    >> > security
    >> > patches. So I approved for install and the user installed successfully,
    >> > and
    >> > the WSUS says there are no more updates to apply.
    >> > However, now when I go to Windows Update from IE on that user's
    >> > machine,
    >> > it
    >> > detects 4 optional hardware updates, including HP-Printer driver.
    >> > I filtered WSUS at UPDATES "DRIVERS only" and there are no
    >> > HP-Printerdrivers.
    >> > Shouldn't the WSUS have also detected those four as an option?
    >> > PLEASE HELP ME! THANKS FOR ALL...

    >>
    >>
    >>
    Lawrence Garvin, Aug 30, 2005
    #4
  5. thx lawrence

    "Lawrence Garvin" wrote:

    > There are no drivers for many hardwares, Stefan.
    >
    > The "Drivers" portion of WSUS is fraught with many challenges, and for the
    > most part is much less mature than the rest of the process, partly because
    > it's brand new to this idea of automated patch management, and partly
    > because it involves cooperation with hardware vendors (as opposed to
    > Microsoft product updates which are all managed internally by MS).
    >
    > The general consensus of those who tested the beta and RC is that "Drivers"
    > are not yet ready for prime time. Personally, I'm not using WSUS for any
    > driver updates. In addition, it's also been my observation that drivers
    > released through AU/WU/WSUS tend to be a generation or so older than the
    > latest versions available from the manufacturer website, because drivers
    > released through AU/WU/WSUS are required to pass WHQL certification and be
    > digitally signed. That whole process takes some time.
    >
    > Also, in general, video drivers have been problematic from AU/WU, and I'd
    > recommend against installing video drivers at all via any remote or
    > automated system. On the other hand, I've had very good luck installing
    > network and sound drivers from AU/WU.
    >
    > As for printer drivers.... for HP, I'd go straight to the HP website to get
    > HP drivers.
    >
    > To answer your question.. Why are the services different... It has to do
    > with the packaging of drivers for automated distribution, and interaction
    > with the Windows Update Agent. When you go to WindowsUpdate.com, you (the
    > operator at the console) replace that "automated distribution" process, by
    > interacting directly with the WU site. Also, drivers need to be updatable
    > using WI or update.exe technology, as well as have metadata created for
    > WSUS, to be used in the WSUS environment.
    >
    > "Stefan Tietze" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Hy Lawrence
    > > In WSUS there are no drivers for for example "HP Printer".
    > > At windowsupdate.microsoft.com there are drivers...
    > > Why is there a different between WSUS and Windowsupdate?
    > > I think, it is almost the same service......
    > >
    > > thx for reply...
    > >
    > > "Lawrence Garvin" wrote:
    > >
    > >> Those updates you see on WindowsUpdate.com.... are they listed on your
    > >> WSUS
    > >> server??? (Probably not.)
    > >>
    > >> WSUS clients can only detect Drivers that are available via WSUS.
    > >>
    > >> "Stefan Tietze" <> wrote in message
    > >> news:...
    > >> >I have my WSUS server set up to download all classifications, including
    > >> > Drivers, and set them to approve as detect only.
    > >> > I have a user which successfully detected all of the critical and
    > >> > security
    > >> > patches. So I approved for install and the user installed successfully,
    > >> > and
    > >> > the WSUS says there are no more updates to apply.
    > >> > However, now when I go to Windows Update from IE on that user's
    > >> > machine,
    > >> > it
    > >> > detects 4 optional hardware updates, including HP-Printer driver.
    > >> > I filtered WSUS at UPDATES "DRIVERS only" and there are no
    > >> > HP-Printerdrivers.
    > >> > Shouldn't the WSUS have also detected those four as an option?
    > >> > PLEASE HELP ME! THANKS FOR ALL...
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>

    >
    >
    >
    Stefan Tietze, Aug 31, 2005
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