Thumbnails unnecessarily regenerating in Vista...

This is now getting annoying, and I'd like to see if there is a real fi
for it

I've read around on these and other forums. Some users who spoke u
about this got half-hearted answers or useless hacks to workaround i
that don't really address the problem

The problem is that Vista REGENERATES a thumbnail for EVERY SINGLE fil
when you open the containing folder. If I have a picture folder fil
that has 1000 pictures in it, this gets annoying real fast. Every time
close the folder and reopen it, Vista REGENERATES thumbnails again

I've read that Vista does not keep a:sarc: thumbs.db like XP does, an
has another central location in which it keeps thumbnails for files. Ok
fine. But then why doesn't Vista keep thumbnail views cached properl
like XP does? Why do I have to wait 5 minutes for thumbnails t
REGENERATE thumbnails when it supposedly has already done this
:confused

I've read some of the supposed "workarounds"

1. Clear your thumbnail cache
This doesn't do anything for the problem. Vista STILL regenerate
thumbnails for each time I open a folder.
2. Check that Vista is set to use thumbnails instead of just icon
Yes, it is. Checked and verified in Folder Option
3. Set Vista to use icons instead of thumbnails (the most annoyin
suggestion by far
I find it blasphemous that this is being suggested. It's basicall
running away from the problem. Why should I disable it? It worked fin
in the previous OS?!

If I am wrong, please correct me. I'm just annoyed about th
suggestions I've seen so far for others who have been experiencing thi
problem

Any suggestions and feedback are welcome. Thanks

--
ajm786

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:00:08 -0500, ajm786 <>
wrote:

>
>This is now getting annoying, and I'd like to see if there is a real fix
>for it.
>
>I've read around on these and other forums. Some users who spoke up
>about this got half-hearted answers or useless hacks to workaround it
>that don't really address the problem.
>
>The problem is that Vista REGENERATES a thumbnail for EVERY SINGLE file
>when you open the containing folder. If I have a picture folder file
>that has 1000 pictures in it, this gets annoying real fast. Every time I
>close the folder and reopen it, Vista REGENERATES thumbnails again.
>
>I've read that Vista does not keep a:sarc: thumbs.db like XP does, and
>has another central location in which it keeps thumbnails for files. Ok,
>fine. But then why doesn't Vista keep thumbnail views cached properly
>like XP does? Why do I have to wait 5 minutes for thumbnails to
>REGENERATE thumbnails when it supposedly has already done this?
>

Yes, it is annoying. I have some folders that have hundreds of videos
in them. Imagine how long it takes for those to regenerate. The good
news is on my system it normally doesn't anymore with the thumbnails
remaining intact and showing almost immediately with no regeneration,
except if I make a wholesale move of a folder's contents, then it may,
but doesn't always cause a regenerate.

To better understand what Microsoft had in mind your best bet is to
visit http://channel9.msdn.com/Media/Videos/

This is a in-house support "channel" where Microsoft employees video
tape other Microsoft employees and some outsiders in a informal
interview format. The advantage is you get your information right from
the horse's mouth, not some guy posting to a forum or newsgroup. The
above link has at present HUNDREDS of streaming videos, some lasting
over an hour. While some are boring and overly technical, there is
gold to be found on a wide variety of topics. All that is required is
patience in scanning what's available. Allow at least an hour just to
see what is available.

I recall but didn't save one as a favorite from the Microsoft engineer
that was responsible for the major redesigning of the shell. He
explains why the changes were made giving insight on some of your
questions. It might take a little hunting to find it, but worth the
effort if you're interested. Before you start, he doesn't offer a
cure, they consider the changes they made a "feature". Since most
videos have a picture of the particular engineer('s) involved, the guy
I'm thinking of was older and quite heavy set, I think bald or balding
and by himself. Which should help narrow your search down.

>Any suggestions and feedback are welcome. Thanks.

I haven't experienced this with still photos, however as I said I use
to see it with videos all the time and it also drove me crazy. The
"fix" was to the find the couple odd ball files that Vista didn't
like, remove them to a separate folder and then all by itself Vista
was happy and no longer done the regenerate dance. I suspect your
problem is similar. You might have one or more corrupted image files
or some in a odd file format that is causing the problem. Find them,
and things should be as they were under XP.

And yes, I know what you mean, I have about 1,000,000 images. The
other thing to check is see if you have multiple thumbnail databases.
There should be ONE. The database itself can get corrupted or if there
are multiple databases spanning the same folder Vista gets messed up
and all bets off what happens. You can delete all the thumbnail
databases and keep your fingers crossed Vista rebuild a single new
database that might resolve it for you.

"Ringmaster" wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:00:08 -0500, ajm786 <>
> wrote:
> Yes, it is annoying. I have some folders that have hundreds of videos
> in them. Imagine how long it takes for those to regenerate.

Do you have nero installed? There's a bug in nero codec.
Uninstall it and the problem is fixed.

"ajm786" wrote:

> The problem is that Vista REGENERATES a thumbnail for EVERY SINGLE file
> when you open the containing folder. If I have a picture folder file
> that has 1000 pictures in it, this gets annoying

FALSE.
Vista doesn't regenerate anything. If I open a folder with a lot of
multimedia files (picture, videos), I instantly see the thumbnails.
I think you have corrupted your Vista or you installed bad codec.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:32:00 -0700, BillD
<> wrote:

>
>
>"Ringmaster" wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:00:08 -0500, ajm786 <>
>> wrote:
>> Yes, it is annoying. I have some folders that have hundreds of videos
>> in them. Imagine how long it takes for those to regenerate.
>
>Do you have nero installed? There's a bug in nero codec.
>Uninstall it and the problem is fixed.

Nope, no Nero installed.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:38:00 -0700, BillD
<> wrote:

>
>
>"ajm786" wrote:
>
>> The problem is that Vista REGENERATES a thumbnail for EVERY SINGLE file
>> when you open the containing folder. If I have a picture folder file
>> that has 1000 pictures in it, this gets annoying
>
>FALSE.
>Vista doesn't regenerate anything. If I open a folder with a lot of
>multimedia files (picture, videos), I instantly see the thumbnails.
>I think you have corrupted your Vista or you installed bad codec.

I always get a kick out of people claiming what others see is false or
oh... you must have corrupted Vista's install or the idiot Frank's
favorite whine: "you don't know how to install or configure Vista
properly" rather than realizing Vista itself is screwed up in both
design and function.

As I said my experience with Vista was very similar to the OP's
originally. While now the thumbnails generally appear "instantly" for
all my internal drives that isn't always the case.

One example where Vista still screws up in thumbnail generation:

I use several external drives and normally have them turned off. I use
these as backup for the source files I've burned DVD's from. I create
a new folder for each DVD burned which means the folder has anywhere
from a few videos to a dozen or more. Often, but not always many of
the folders already completed regenerate the thumbnails. Since all the
videos are the same file type, MPEG-2, and there is no codec conflict,
and I've changed nothing in the folder since the last time I viewed
it, it makes absolutely no sense why dumb as dirt Vista needs to
recreate the thumbnails but it does...sometimes, while other folders
on the same drive also containing other MPEG-2 files it doesn't.

Ringmaster wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:38:00 -0700, BillD
> <> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>"ajm786" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The problem is that Vista REGENERATES a thumbnail for EVERY SINGLE file
>>>when you open the containing folder. If I have a picture folder file
>>>that has 1000 pictures in it, this gets annoying
>>
>>FALSE.
>>Vista doesn't regenerate anything. If I open a folder with a lot of
>>multimedia files (picture, videos), I instantly see the thumbnails.
>>I think you have corrupted your Vista or you installed bad codec.
>
>
> I always get a kick out of people claiming what others see is false or
> oh... you must have corrupted Vista's install or the idiot Frank's
> favorite whine: "you don't know how to install or configure Vista
> properly" rather than realizing Vista itself is screwed up in both
> design and function.

You'll never learn will you. You can't take responsibility for your own
failures. You've had this problem all of your miserable, failure of a
life I bet.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:03:14 -0700, Frank <> wrote:

>Ringmaster wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:38:00 -0700, BillD
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"ajm786" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The problem is that Vista REGENERATES a thumbnail for EVERY SINGLE file
>>>>when you open the containing folder. If I have a picture folder file
>>>>that has 1000 pictures in it, this gets annoying
>>>
>>>FALSE.
>>>Vista doesn't regenerate anything. If I open a folder with a lot of
>>>multimedia files (picture, videos), I instantly see the thumbnails.
>>>I think you have corrupted your Vista or you installed bad codec.
>>
>>
>> I always get a kick out of people claiming what others see is false or
>> oh... you must have corrupted Vista's install or the idiot Frank's
>> favorite whine: "you don't know how to install or configure Vista
>> properly" rather than realizing Vista itself is screwed up in both
>> design and function.
>
>You'll never learn will you. You can't take responsibility for your own
>failures. You've had this problem all of your miserable, failure of a
>life I bet.


What kind of retard would try to pass off Microsoft design flaws and
long standing bugs as the end user's fault? Oh... the idiot Frank
always does since this fool thinks it is his job to try to be Gate
Keeper in this newsgroup and act as official apologist.

You stupid dumb ****. Sorry, a bit crude, but that's the tag line
you've so richly deserve Frank.

The end user has no control over how or if Vista generates thumbnails.
There are no controls, settings or adjustments you can make that alter
HOW or if thumbnails are [properly generated or regenerated over and
over or if at times some images result in only showing a icon for the
file type rather than the actual image or if suddenly without warning
the entire database gets corrupted causing Vista to stop generating
any thumbnails from that point forward forcing the end user to rebuild
the database from scratch.

I'm not talking about some exotic file types either. Having in excess
of a million image files, I've seen Windows do all kinds of really
dumb things with common file types like JPG. I know there is nothing
wrong with these files since they can be opened in anything from some
no frills free thumbnail viewer to more powerful applications like
Photoshop.

Only Windows Explorer stumbles. Your typical rant, "you don't know how
to install or configure Vista properly" only illustrates your total
ignorance and mind numbing incompetence on this topic. Buy hey, that's
alright, like I said, you're seen only as some dumb **** that is here
only to attempt to disrupt this newsgroup and make an ass of yourself
by lying about other posters and using obscenities and other vulgar
language in nearly every post you make. So the only thing your excel
at is making a jackass out of yourself.

BillD;818243 Wrote:
> "ajm786" wrote
> > > >
> > > The problem is that Vista REGENERATES a thumbnail for EVERY SINGL
> > fil
> > > when you open the containing folder. If I have a picture folder fil
> > > that has 1000 pictures in it, this gets annoying > > FALSE
> Vista doesn't regenerate anything. If I open a folder with a lot o
> multimedia files (picture, videos), I instantly see the thumbnails
> I think you have corrupted your Vista or you installed bad codec

No. No corrupted install, and NO codecs installed. This is with a fres
installation of Vista, of course with the usual 2 weeks allotted fo
Superfetch to do its job. And Vista IS regenerating thumbnails. When
open the folder, scroll down, I see the generic icon that Vista use
until it generates a real thumbnail for a file. So, yes, contrary t
what you say, it is indeed regenerating. I don't care if it does it th
first time, but EVERY TIME I open/reopen a folder that happens

I should mention that lots of others see this problem as well, so I'
not just making stuff up here

--
ajm786

Ringmaster wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:03:14 -0700, Frank <> wrote:
>
>
>>Ringmaster wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:38:00 -0700, BillD
>>><> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"ajm786" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The problem is that Vista REGENERATES a thumbnail for EVERY SINGLE file
>>>>>when you open the containing folder. If I have a picture folder file
>>>>>that has 1000 pictures in it, this gets annoying
>>>>
>>>>FALSE.
>>>>Vista doesn't regenerate anything. If I open a folder with a lot of
>>>>multimedia files (picture, videos), I instantly see the thumbnails.
>>>>I think you have corrupted your Vista or you installed bad codec.
>>>
>>>
>>>I always get a kick out of people claiming what others see is false or
>>>oh... you must have corrupted Vista's install or the idiot Frank's
>>>favorite whine: "you don't know how to install or configure Vista
>>>properly" rather than realizing Vista itself is screwed up in both
>>>design and function.
>>
>>You'll never learn will you. You can't take responsibility for your own
>>failures. You've had this problem all of your miserable, failure of a
>>life I bet.
>
>
>
> What kind of retard would try to pass off Microsoft design flaws and
> long standing bugs as the end user's fault? Oh... the idiot Frank
> always does since this fool thinks it is his job to try to be Gate
> Keeper in this newsgroup and act as official apologist.
>
> You stupid dumb ****. Sorry, a bit crude, but that's the tag line
> you've so richly deserve Frank.
>
> The end user has no control over how or if Vista generates thumbnails.
> There are no controls, settings or adjustments you can make that alter
> HOW or if thumbnails are [properly generated or regenerated over and
> over or if at times some images result in only showing a icon for the
> file type rather than the actual image or if suddenly without warning
> the entire database gets corrupted causing Vista to stop generating
> any thumbnails from that point forward forcing the end user to rebuild
> the database from scratch.
>
> I'm not talking about some exotic file types either. Having in excess
> of a million image files, I've seen Windows do all kinds of really
> dumb things with common file types like JPG. I know there is nothing
> wrong with these files since they can be opened in anything from some
> no frills free thumbnail viewer to more powerful applications like
> Photoshop.
>
> Only Windows Explorer stumbles. Your typical rant, "you don't know how
> to install or configure Vista properly" only illustrates your total
> ignorance and mind numbing incompetence on this topic. Buy hey, that's
> alright, like I said, you're seen only as some dumb **** that is here
> only to attempt to disrupt this newsgroup and make an ass of yourself
> by lying about other posters and using obscenities and other vulgar
> language in nearly every post you make. So the only thing your excel
> at is making a jackass out of yourself.

Thanks for once again, proving my point you incompetent idiot moron loser.
Tell us all once again, why you purchased Business knowing that you
needed Ultimate. Then tell us all why you, who calls yourself a
"professional", did an in place install of the wrong version OS that you
said you needed.
Face it adam not-so-bright, it is you who is the idiot, moron,
incompetent fool!
IOW's, you're a real loser, loser!...LOL!