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soulman1015
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      09-03-2009

Where do I begin

for some reason, the "User Account Control" keeps turning itself off.
then log on in the administrator account to turn it back on, restart
and everything is fine for about an hour, then it happens again. I hav
run my AV (I have Vipre) in the deepest scan it has, and removed an
issues, but it keeps happening..

I get this pop up that states that it's from microsoft, however th
signature if I doubleclicked the .exe file is unknown, so it'
cancelled... attached is a screen shot...

Also, I have two 512 MB SD RAM cards (which I hope to change soon) bu
yet, the computer states that I only have 845 MB of RAM - not eve
enough to really run Vista...

Spyware and adware don't get removed, and when it does, it's righ
back within an hour (Using VIPRE AV/AS

Registry errors, dll errors, more things than I can say right now...

I'm ready to take a sledgehammer to this dang thing, and get a Mac

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|Filename: Windows AV pop up.jpg
|Download: http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...chmentid=15439
+-------------------------------------------------------------------

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      09-03-2009

"soulman1015" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Where do I begin?
>
> for some reason, the "User Account Control" keeps turning itself off. I
> then log on in the administrator account to turn it back on, restart,
> and everything is fine for about an hour, then it happens again. I have
> run my AV (I have Vipre) in the deepest scan it has, and removed any
> issues, but it keeps happening...
>
> I get this pop up that states that it's from microsoft, however the
> signature if I doubleclicked the .exe file is unknown, so it's
> cancelled... attached is a screen shot...
>
> Also, I have two 512 MB SD RAM cards (which I hope to change soon) but
> yet, the computer states that I only have 845 MB of RAM - not even
> enough to really run Vista...
>
> Spyware and adware don't get removed, and when it does, it's right
> back within an hour (Using VIPRE AV/AS)
>
> Registry errors, dll errors, more things than I can say right now...
>
> I'm ready to take a sledgehammer to this dang thing, and get a Mac.
>
>
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
> |Filename: Windows AV pop up.jpg |
> |Download: http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...hmentid=15439|
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>
> --
> soulman1015


Does the term "You're INFECTED" mean anything to you? You'll have the same
problems with a Mac if you continue to d/l stuff without knowing what it is.
Boot to safe mode and run this. Then start using a real AV program.

http://www.malwarebytes.org/

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      09-03-2009


Michael;1127771 Wrote:
> "soulman1015" <> wrote in message
> news:...> > >
> > >
> > > Where do I begin?
> > >
> > > for some reason, the "User Account Control" keeps turning itself off.

> > I
> > > then log on in the administrator account to turn it back on, restart,
> > > and everything is fine for about an hour, then it happens again. I

> > have
> > > run my AV (I have Vipre) in the deepest scan it has, and removed any
> > > issues, but it keeps happening...
> > >
> > > I get this pop up that states that it's from microsoft, however the
> > > signature if I doubleclicked the .exe file is unknown, so it's
> > > cancelled... attached is a screen shot...
> > >
> > > Also, I have two 512 MB SD RAM cards (which I hope to change soon)

> > but
> > > yet, the computer states that I only have 845 MB of RAM - not even
> > > enough to really run Vista...
> > >
> > > Spyware and adware don't get removed, and when it does, it's right
> > > back within an hour (Using VIPRE AV/AS)
> > >
> > > Registry errors, dll errors, more things than I can say right now...
> > >
> > > I'm ready to take a sledgehammer to this dang thing, and get a Mac.
> > >
> > >
> > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > > |Filename: Windows AV pop up.jpg |
> > > |Download:

> > 'http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15439|'
> > (http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...entid=15439%7C)
> > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > >
> > > --
> > > soulman1015 > > Does the term "You're INFECTED" mean anything to you? You'll have the

> same
> problems with a Mac if you continue to d/l stuff without knowing what
> it is.
> Boot to safe mode and run this. Then start using a real AV program.
>
> 'Malwarebytes.org' (http://www.malwarebytes.org/)
>
> --
>
> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.




Ok, look. I don't d/l anything without knowing what it is. I'm not
the only user on this computer - there isn't any need to get snarky.
I'm not stupid and I understand I'm "infected." And which "real" AV
program would you suggest? Kaspersky - crap. Panda - crap. Webroot -
crap. Norton or McAfee - don't get me started. I needed an AV which
wouldn't eat my entire CPU within seconds and crash the computer - read
the rest of the message - so I can continue to actually use the PC.

Thanks for ur help. I'll run it and let you know.


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pacinitaly
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      09-03-2009

soulman1015;1127778 Wrote:
> > Michael;1127771 Wrote:
> > "soulman1015" <> wrote in messag
> > news:...> > > > >
> > >
> > > > Where do I begin
> > >
> > > > for some reason, the "User Account Control" keeps turning itself off
> > >
> > > > then log on in the administrator account to turn it back on, restart
> > > > and everything is fine for about an hour, then it happens again.
> > > hav
> > > > run my AV (I have Vipre) in the deepest scan it has, and removed an
> > > > issues, but it keeps happening..
> > >
> > > > I get this pop up that states that it's from microsoft, however th
> > > > signature if I doubleclicked the .exe file is unknown, so it'
> > > > cancelled... attached is a screen shot..
> > >
> > > > Also, I have two 512 MB SD RAM cards (which I hope to change soon
> > > bu
> > > > yet, the computer states that I only have 845 MB of RAM - not eve
> > > > enough to really run Vista..
> > >
> > > > Spyware and adware don't get removed, and when it does, it's righ
> > > > back within an hour (Using VIPRE AV/AS
> > >
> > > > Registry errors, dll errors, more things than I can say right now..
> > >
> > > > I'm ready to take a sledgehammer to this dang thing, and get a Mac
> > >
> > >
> > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > |Filename: Windows AV pop up.jpg
> > > > |Download
> > > 'http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15439|
> > > (http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...entid=15439%7C
> > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > > -
> > > > soulman1015 > > > > Does the term "You're INFECTED" mean anything to you? You'll hav

> > the sam
> > problems with a Mac if you continue to d/l stuff without knowin
> > what it is
> > Boot to safe mode and run this. Then start using a real AV program
> >
> > 'Malwarebytes.org' (http://www.malwarebytes.org/
> >
> > -
> >
> > Don't pick a fight with an old man
> > If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.> >

>
>
>
> Ok, look. I don't d/l anything without knowing what it is. I'm no
> the only user on this computer - there isn't any need to get snarky
> I'm not stupid and I understand I'm "infected." And which "real" A
> program would you suggest? Kaspersky - crap. Panda - crap. Webroot
> crap. Norton or McAfee - don't get me started. I needed an AV whic
> wouldn't eat my entire CPU within seconds and crash the computer
> read the rest of the message - so I can continue to actually use th
> PC
>
> Thanks for ur help. I'll run it and let you know



:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao

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Michael
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      09-03-2009

"soulman1015" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Michael;1127771 Wrote:
>> "soulman1015" <> wrote in message
>> news:...> > >
>> > >
>> > > Where do I begin?
>> > >
>> > > for some reason, the "User Account Control" keeps turning itself off.
>> > I
>> > > then log on in the administrator account to turn it back on, restart,
>> > > and everything is fine for about an hour, then it happens again. I
>> > have
>> > > run my AV (I have Vipre) in the deepest scan it has, and removed any
>> > > issues, but it keeps happening...
>> > >
>> > > I get this pop up that states that it's from microsoft, however the
>> > > signature if I doubleclicked the .exe file is unknown, so it's
>> > > cancelled... attached is a screen shot...
>> > >
>> > > Also, I have two 512 MB SD RAM cards (which I hope to change soon)
>> > but
>> > > yet, the computer states that I only have 845 MB of RAM - not even
>> > > enough to really run Vista...
>> > >
>> > > Spyware and adware don't get removed, and when it does, it's right
>> > > back within an hour (Using VIPRE AV/AS)
>> > >
>> > > Registry errors, dll errors, more things than I can say right now...
>> > >
>> > > I'm ready to take a sledgehammer to this dang thing, and get a Mac.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> > > |Filename: Windows AV pop up.jpg |
>> > > |Download:
>> > 'http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15439|'
>> > (http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...entid=15439%7C)
>> > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > soulman1015 > > Does the term "You're INFECTED" mean anything to you?
>> > > You'll have the

>> same
>> problems with a Mac if you continue to d/l stuff without knowing what
>> it is.
>> Boot to safe mode and run this. Then start using a real AV program.
>>
>> 'Malwarebytes.org' (http://www.malwarebytes.org/)
>>
>> --
>>
>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

>
>
>
> Ok, look. I don't d/l anything without knowing what it is. I'm not
> the only user on this computer


Been hearing this excuse since the early 90's.

> there isn't any need to get snarky.


I guess the sledgehammer comment was subtle.

> I'm not stupid and I understand I'm "infected." And which "real" AV
> program would you suggest? Kaspersky - crap. Panda - crap. Webroot -
> crap. Norton or McAfee - don't get me started.


Looks like "getting started" isn't your problem. Expressing yourself in a
professional manner is.

> I needed an AV which
> wouldn't eat my entire CPU within seconds and crash the computer - read
> the rest of the message


AVG or Avast. Also, 1GB RAM barely runs Vista.

> so I can continue to actually use the PC.
>
> Thanks for ur help. I'll run it and let you know.


Don't let it run too far. You might hurt yourself chasing it.

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If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.



 
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Saucy
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      09-04-2009
Mac!? LOL Macs are getting viruses now ('cause they've gotten more popular)
... and Linux has more vulnerabilities than Windows (and if you don't believe
me check the RedHat errata list - it's as long as your arm) .. maybe MS-DOS?

Security by obscurity doesn't cut it anymore. You need to adopt good
computing practices. It is possible to run Windows securely with little
chance of getting infected - I do and many of the guys here do - but it does
take learning the system a bit .. but if you are going to both do computing
AND go about on the Internet, you should learn these things anyway .. .. and
having learned, Windows is actually more secure than these other systems.

Moving forward:

Just my 2 cents .. Generally speaking, your system is hosed.

You will have to think about how you want to recover it. First consult the
manufacturer's recommendations, especially if the system in still under
warranty. You may have a recovery partition on the machine etc. etc. Find
out.

Some people think that the best is to wipe and reinstall. This is more
sure-fire than just attempting to delete infections, rootkits are quite
sneaky etc. etc. As well, depending of course, attempting to remove these
things can take more time than just wiping an reinstalling .. and they're
sneaky, you will wonder if it is really gone every time an explorer window
takes a little more time than expected to load.

But sometimes wipe and re-install is impossible. You might consider someone
in your town who has a good rep for removing these things. Otherwise it's
the big box store tech dept. or do-it-yourself.

With a complicated infections these days, what, with root-kits, trojans,
spyware and a viruses all on there at once, do-it-yourself can be quite a
journey - a quagmire of sorts - and in the end you have a dubious result. If
you do take the machine somewhere, you might note that someone with a good
rep and specializes in removal might be better than a big box store tech. If
they just want to wipe and reinstall, you might be able to do as much
yourself.

Best is if you can back up documents and wipe and re-do the system.
Preparedness helps in doing this. A little desire for confidence and some
curiosity are also required. Get the hardware drivers etc. etc. beforehand
burned to disc etc. (the manufacturer's website usually has the whole set
for your computer model), make sure you have ALL the product keys etc. and
application discs you need, plus any configuration info e.g. your phone
numbers if you do dial-up etc. etc. Read up on partitioning and formatting.

Take a Saturday, brew some java and by the end of the day you should be done
(and have learned some about your machine to boot - pardon the pun).

Once you have a working clean system set up and configured, consider
creating a SYSTEM IMAGE. Windows Ultimate and all versions of the coming
Windows 7 enable you to make a system image. If you don't have either, then
look into 3rd party imaging software. Should anything go wrong, you can
apply the image and be back up and running with all your apps etc. etc. all
ready - no configuration needed - in under an hour.

Saucy



"soulman1015" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Where do I begin?
>
> for some reason, the "User Account Control" keeps turning itself off. I
> then log on in the administrator account to turn it back on, restart,
> and everything is fine for about an hour, then it happens again. I have
> run my AV (I have Vipre) in the deepest scan it has, and removed any
> issues, but it keeps happening...
>
> I get this pop up that states that it's from microsoft, however the
> signature if I doubleclicked the .exe file is unknown, so it's
> cancelled... attached is a screen shot...
>
> Also, I have two 512 MB SD RAM cards (which I hope to change soon) but
> yet, the computer states that I only have 845 MB of RAM - not even
> enough to really run Vista...
>
> Spyware and adware don't get removed, and when it does, it's right
> back within an hour (Using VIPRE AV/AS)
>
> Registry errors, dll errors, more things than I can say right now...
>
> I'm ready to take a sledgehammer to this dang thing, and get a Mac.
>
>
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
> |Filename: Windows AV pop up.jpg |
> |Download: http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...hmentid=15439|
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>
> --
> soulman1015


 
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Michael
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      09-04-2009

Saucy, I have a better idea. I'm heading to Home Depot to buy him a brand
new sledgehammer.

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If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.



"Saucy" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Mac!? LOL Macs are getting viruses now ('cause they've gotten more
> popular) .. and Linux has more vulnerabilities than Windows (and if you
> don't believe me check the RedHat errata list - it's as long as your arm)
> .. maybe MS-DOS?
>
> Security by obscurity doesn't cut it anymore. You need to adopt good
> computing practices. It is possible to run Windows securely with little
> chance of getting infected - I do and many of the guys here do - but it
> does take learning the system a bit .. but if you are going to both do
> computing AND go about on the Internet, you should learn these things
> anyway .. .. and having learned, Windows is actually more secure than
> these other systems.
>
> Moving forward:
>
> Just my 2 cents .. Generally speaking, your system is hosed.
>
> You will have to think about how you want to recover it. First consult the
> manufacturer's recommendations, especially if the system in still under
> warranty. You may have a recovery partition on the machine etc. etc. Find
> out.
>
> Some people think that the best is to wipe and reinstall. This is more
> sure-fire than just attempting to delete infections, rootkits are quite
> sneaky etc. etc. As well, depending of course, attempting to remove these
> things can take more time than just wiping an reinstalling .. and they're
> sneaky, you will wonder if it is really gone every time an explorer window
> takes a little more time than expected to load.
>
> But sometimes wipe and re-install is impossible. You might consider
> someone in your town who has a good rep for removing these things.
> Otherwise it's the big box store tech dept. or do-it-yourself.
>
> With a complicated infections these days, what, with root-kits, trojans,
> spyware and a viruses all on there at once, do-it-yourself can be quite a
> journey - a quagmire of sorts - and in the end you have a dubious result.
> If you do take the machine somewhere, you might note that someone with a
> good rep and specializes in removal might be better than a big box store
> tech. If they just want to wipe and reinstall, you might be able to do as
> much yourself.
>
> Best is if you can back up documents and wipe and re-do the system.
> Preparedness helps in doing this. A little desire for confidence and some
> curiosity are also required. Get the hardware drivers etc. etc. beforehand
> burned to disc etc. (the manufacturer's website usually has the whole set
> for your computer model), make sure you have ALL the product keys etc. and
> application discs you need, plus any configuration info e.g. your phone
> numbers if you do dial-up etc. etc. Read up on partitioning and
> formatting.
>
> Take a Saturday, brew some java and by the end of the day you should be
> done (and have learned some about your machine to boot - pardon the pun).
>
> Once you have a working clean system set up and configured, consider
> creating a SYSTEM IMAGE. Windows Ultimate and all versions of the coming
> Windows 7 enable you to make a system image. If you don't have either,
> then look into 3rd party imaging software. Should anything go wrong, you
> can apply the image and be back up and running with all your apps etc.
> etc. all ready - no configuration needed - in under an hour.
>
> Saucy
>
>
>
> "soulman1015" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> Where do I begin?
>>
>> for some reason, the "User Account Control" keeps turning itself off. I
>> then log on in the administrator account to turn it back on, restart,
>> and everything is fine for about an hour, then it happens again. I have
>> run my AV (I have Vipre) in the deepest scan it has, and removed any
>> issues, but it keeps happening...
>>
>> I get this pop up that states that it's from microsoft, however the
>> signature if I doubleclicked the .exe file is unknown, so it's
>> cancelled... attached is a screen shot...
>>
>> Also, I have two 512 MB SD RAM cards (which I hope to change soon) but
>> yet, the computer states that I only have 845 MB of RAM - not even
>> enough to really run Vista...
>>
>> Spyware and adware don't get removed, and when it does, it's right
>> back within an hour (Using VIPRE AV/AS)
>>
>> Registry errors, dll errors, more things than I can say right now...
>>
>> I'm ready to take a sledgehammer to this dang thing, and get a Mac.
>>
>>
>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> |Filename: Windows AV pop up.jpg |
>> |Download: http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...hmentid=15439|
>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>
>> --
>> soulman1015

>


 
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      09-04-2009

"Saucy" <> wrote in message
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> Mac!? LOL Macs are getting viruses now ('cause they've gotten more
> popular) .. and Linux has more vulnerabilities than Windows (and if you
> don't believe me check the RedHat errata list - it's as long as your arm)
> ..


Yet another example of ignorance by non-Linux using users. Linux is the
KERNEL only.
For example - of the 104 vulnerabilities in RedHat Linux 5 Enterprise NONE
are in the Linux Kernel - they are ALL in included applications such as
Firefox and Thunderbird.
Stop spreading FUD.

 
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      09-04-2009

Hi Soulman1015,

I work for Sunbelt software and apologize for the inconveniences you've
had removing this threat. We are more then happy to assist. Please
contact use directly at and we can collect
some logs and have our Security Response team assist in the manual
removal process.

Warm regards,
Tim


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      09-04-2009
Doesn't matter if it happens in the kernel or in an application, the
platform takes the blame... same as in Windows.



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"Gordon" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Saucy" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Mac!? LOL Macs are getting viruses now ('cause they've gotten more
>> popular) .. and Linux has more vulnerabilities than Windows (and if you
>> don't believe me check the RedHat errata list - it's as long as your arm)
>> ..

>
> Yet another example of ignorance by non-Linux using users. Linux is the
> KERNEL only.
> For example - of the 104 vulnerabilities in RedHat Linux 5 Enterprise NONE
> are in the Linux Kernel - they are ALL in included applications such as
> Firefox and Thunderbird.
> Stop spreading FUD.


 
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