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Dasaecor
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      10-14-2007
Hi,

I have various issues with my Vista Installation:
- Really long times for Windows during start up, specially after compu has
been shut down.

- Windows registry file getting corrupt now and then.

- Long time for programs to install.

I have checked the hard drive and the ram, wondering if the PSU is ok, does
anybody know how can i test the PSU?

Thanks
 
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Jon
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      10-14-2007

"Dasaecor" <> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have various issues with my Vista Installation:
> - Really long times for Windows during start up, specially after compu has
> been shut down.
>
> - Windows registry file getting corrupt now and then.
>
> - Long time for programs to install.
>
> I have checked the hard drive and the ram, wondering if the PSU is ok,
> does
> anybody know how can i test the PSU?
>
> Thanks




I'd forget about the PSU - start with a chkdsk, defrag and removing any
unnecessary startup programs. Repost if you need help with any of those
areas, and I'm sure people will be able to fill you in.

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joel406
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      10-14-2007

We need more information.

Is it a new build?
What CPU?
What Motherboard?
What kind of , and how much RAM?
Clean Vista install or upgrade?
Dual Boot?
Any other add in cards in the system?
Checked all drivers?
Bios updates?
Video card? What kind?
Audio cards? What kind?
x64?
What other issues?


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Dasaecor
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      10-14-2007
HI,

please see answers below

Thanks

"joel406" wrote:

>
> We need more information.
>
> Is it a new build? Yes
> What CPU? Intel Q6800 Extreme
> What Motherboard? MSI K6N Diamond
> What kind of , and how much RAM? 2x1Gb
> Clean Vista install or upgrade? Clean Vista Home Premium install
> Dual Boot? No
> Any other add in cards in the system? No
> Checked all drivers? Vista updated and all hardware ok, apart from a USB WLAN adapter which is using XP drivers
> Bios updates? updated, version 1.3
> Video card? What kind? 2 x Gforce 8800 GTX
> Audio cards? What kind? X-Fi integrated in the MOBO
> x64? no
> What other issues?

I have just installed the Unreal Tournament III demo and works perfectly...
>
>
> --
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Charlie Tame
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      10-14-2007
Dasaecor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have various issues with my Vista Installation:
> - Really long times for Windows during start up, specially after compu has
> been shut down.
>
> - Windows registry file getting corrupt now and then.
>
> - Long time for programs to install.
>
> I have checked the hard drive and the ram, wondering if the PSU is ok, does
> anybody know how can i test the PSU?
>
> Thanks



This sounds like a hardware / driver problem.

If you installed Vista yourself...

Did you have a CD with drivers on for the motherboard that came with the
machine, if so you need to visit the manufacturer's website and check
for Vista compatible drivers, this depends on a lot of factors and
installing Vista on a machine with parts you may not have drivers for is
a really bad idea, motherboards have numerous parts that need drivers
and unlike XP Vista is poorly supported - never mind what the publicity
machine tells you. This will slow you down to a crawl and probably cause
errors.

You need to have lots of memory, 2 Gigabytes at least. 1G will work but
is slow. 512 K will work but is hopeless. If not, don't add to what you
already have but buy a new batch from one place at the same time.

What do you mean by the registry getting corrupt? This could indicate
either of the above problems but also malware, unless you are in the
habit of simply turning the machine off instead of shutting down, which
I doubt.

If you are using some "Registry Cleaner" then stop using it, in only 2
weeks you should not have been able to use the machine enough in that
time for registry cleaning, defragmenting or any other service type work
to be done.

1. Look for motherboard drivers if you have not already done so.
2. Video card drivers next (Once you are sure you got all the others)
3. Copy these to CD or someplace you can get at them if offline
4. Consider a clean install of Vista followed by the drivers if the
drivers don't solve the problems, there may be something broken now.
Install Windows updates but NOT driver software that is offered. Do this
one item at a time.
5. Begin installing things patiently, install-test / install-test etc.
6. Avoid McAfee and Norton and things that promise complete security
packaging, most are bloated and interfere with things they should not,
AVG or Avast work reasonably well.
 
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Dasaecor
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      10-14-2007
Another issue I get very commonly is during the install of programs, the
system will start the process, and all of a sudden it will stop, the hard
drive will keep flashing intermitently, and I have to reboot the system to
try again.

The program will normally install after I try two or three times, isn't it
weird?

Thanks for your help.

"joel406" wrote:

>
> We need more information.
>
> Is it a new build?
> What CPU?
> What Motherboard?
> What kind of , and how much RAM?
> Clean Vista install or upgrade?
> Dual Boot?
> Any other add in cards in the system?
> Checked all drivers?
> Bios updates?
> Video card? What kind?
> Audio cards? What kind?
> x64?
> What other issues?
>
>
> --
> joel406
>

 
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joel406
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      10-14-2007

I forgot to ask about harddrive(s).

But poster jon has a good starting point.

When you say the registry is becoming corupt, you know this how? Are
you using a registry scanner or cleaner that is always making
corrections. If so and its not finding umpteen issues everytime you scan
it could be normal reistry garbage the regularly collects in very short
periods of time. If you scan once a day, even with just normal use 20
items removed after scan is not uncommon.

Slow start up can be caused by several things.

One is Vista itself. It does take longer to boot then XP but not
significantly longer. See how many running processes you have. My
computer is running about 75 on average and with your hardware specs
that should be no problem.

What kind of security are you running. Some virus scaners scan at start
up and slow the boot time big time. Some anti spyware scanners also do
this.

Hope some of this gets you started I'll watch the tread.

joel406


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Dasaecor
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      10-14-2007
Hi,

first of all, thanks for your help.

I have built the system myself with parts.

The hard drive is as Seagate ST3750640AS 750Gb.

I have updated drivers for the motherboard, graphic cards, etc.

Due to the fact that system hangs up occasioanally during the install of
some of the programs, I have to switch off the computer instead of shutting
it down properly, I don't know if this may be causing the problems with the
registry file.

Is it normal that the hard drive keeps reading intermittently during normal
operation in Windows Vista? I have disabled the index service, and UAC, but
still the hard drive will keep reading intermittently.

Thanks.




"Charlie Tame" wrote:

> Dasaecor wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have various issues with my Vista Installation:
> > - Really long times for Windows during start up, specially after compu has
> > been shut down.
> >
> > - Windows registry file getting corrupt now and then.
> >
> > - Long time for programs to install.
> >
> > I have checked the hard drive and the ram, wondering if the PSU is ok, does
> > anybody know how can i test the PSU?
> >
> > Thanks

>
>
> This sounds like a hardware / driver problem.
>
> If you installed Vista yourself...
>
> Did you have a CD with drivers on for the motherboard that came with the
> machine, if so you need to visit the manufacturer's website and check
> for Vista compatible drivers, this depends on a lot of factors and
> installing Vista on a machine with parts you may not have drivers for is
> a really bad idea, motherboards have numerous parts that need drivers
> and unlike XP Vista is poorly supported - never mind what the publicity
> machine tells you. This will slow you down to a crawl and probably cause
> errors.
>
> You need to have lots of memory, 2 Gigabytes at least. 1G will work but
> is slow. 512 K will work but is hopeless. If not, don't add to what you
> already have but buy a new batch from one place at the same time.
>
> What do you mean by the registry getting corrupt? This could indicate
> either of the above problems but also malware, unless you are in the
> habit of simply turning the machine off instead of shutting down, which
> I doubt.
>
> If you are using some "Registry Cleaner" then stop using it, in only 2
> weeks you should not have been able to use the machine enough in that
> time for registry cleaning, defragmenting or any other service type work
> to be done.
>
> 1. Look for motherboard drivers if you have not already done so.
> 2. Video card drivers next (Once you are sure you got all the others)
> 3. Copy these to CD or someplace you can get at them if offline
> 4. Consider a clean install of Vista followed by the drivers if the
> drivers don't solve the problems, there may be something broken now.
> Install Windows updates but NOT driver software that is offered. Do this
> one item at a time.
> 5. Begin installing things patiently, install-test / install-test etc.
> 6. Avoid McAfee and Norton and things that promise complete security
> packaging, most are bloated and interfere with things they should not,
> AVG or Avast work reasonably well.
>

 
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      10-14-2007
Dasaecor <> wrote in
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> Is it normal that the hard drive keeps reading intermittently during
> normal operation in Windows Vista? I have disabled the index service,
> and UAC, but still the hard drive will keep reading intermittently.


Sounds like you might have a bad harddrive or a bad motherboard.
 
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Dasaecor
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      10-14-2007
The hard drive has passed the Sea Tools hard drive analyser software, on
both, the short and the long test.

How can I check if the motherboard has a problem?

Thanks.

"XS11E" wrote:

> Dasaecor <> wrote in
> news:AEEF17BF-0827-4810-95F0-:
>
> > Is it normal that the hard drive keeps reading intermittently during
> > normal operation in Windows Vista? I have disabled the index service,
> > and UAC, but still the hard drive will keep reading intermittently.

>
> Sounds like you might have a bad harddrive or a bad motherboard.
>

 
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