UAC can be a headache

I have had this new HP with Vista Premium since August and I must say I have
not had any problems unlike many that have posted.

The only thing I have encountered is that on some programs that were
transferred from my XP machine triggers the UAC popup and some do not. It
does become irritating at times to have to tell Vista the program is OK over
and over again.

I can see the value of using UAC but I wish there was a way to tell Vista
that a particular program is approved. I now never install to the Programs
directory but on some programs it still doesn't help.

Well, its really a limitation of the program itself, since applicatons in
Windows Vista need to support the changes in the new user privileges where
applications don't run with full administrative privileges to begin with.
This is a new shift in how developers maintain and update their applications
and it will only take time and possibly new releases of certain programs to
conform to the new standard.

Read up on it:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...C/default.aspx

http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...really-is.aspx

http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry

"Don Harvey" <> wrote in message
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>I have had this new HP with Vista Premium since August and I must say I
>have not had any problems unlike many that have posted.
>
> The only thing I have encountered is that on some programs that were
> transferred from my XP machine triggers the UAC popup and some do not. It
> does become irritating at times to have to tell Vista the program is OK
> over and over again.
>
> I can see the value of using UAC but I wish there was a way to tell Vista
> that a particular program is approved. I now never install to the
> Programs directory but on some programs it still doesn't help.

Thanks Andre,

A lot of good info about UAC.


"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Well, its really a limitation of the program itself, since applicatons in
> Windows Vista need to support the changes in the new user privileges where
> applications don't run with full administrative privileges to begin with.
> This is a new shift in how developers maintain and update their
> applications and it will only take time and possibly new releases of
> certain programs to conform to the new standard.
>
> Read up on it:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...C/default.aspx
>
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...really-is.aspx
>
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
>
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>
> "Don Harvey" <> wrote in message
> news:47648cc8$0$15399$...
>>I have had this new HP with Vista Premium since August and I must say I
>>have not had any problems unlike many that have posted.
>>
>> The only thing I have encountered is that on some programs that were
>> transferred from my XP machine triggers the UAC popup and some do not.
>> It does become irritating at times to have to tell Vista the program is
>> OK over and over again.
>>
>> I can see the value of using UAC but I wish there was a way to tell Vista
>> that a particular program is approved. I now never install to the
>> Programs directory but on some programs it still doesn't help.
>
>

You are welcome Don.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Don Harvey" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks Andre,
>
> A lot of good info about UAC.
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Well, its really a limitation of the program itself, since applicatons in
>> Windows Vista need to support the changes in the new user privileges
>> where applications don't run with full administrative privileges to begin
>> with. This is a new shift in how developers maintain and update their
>> applications and it will only take time and possibly new releases of
>> certain programs to conform to the new standard.
>>
>> Read up on it:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...C/default.aspx
>>
>> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...really-is.aspx
>>
>> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
>>
>> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>
>> "Don Harvey" <> wrote in message
>> news:47648cc8$0$15399$...
>>>I have had this new HP with Vista Premium since August and I must say I
>>>have not had any problems unlike many that have posted.
>>>
>>> The only thing I have encountered is that on some programs that were
>>> transferred from my XP machine triggers the UAC popup and some do not.
>>> It does become irritating at times to have to tell Vista the program is
>>> OK over and over again.
>>>
>>> I can see the value of using UAC but I wish there was a way to tell
>>> Vista that a particular program is approved. I now never install to the
>>> Programs directory but on some programs it still doesn't help.
>>
>>
>

Andre,

What is your opinion about the OP's practice of installing programs in
folders other than the Programs folder?

I would never do that, but I can't think why it would be harmful.

Brian

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Well, its really a limitation of the program itself, since applicatons in
> Windows Vista need to support the changes in the new user privileges where
> applications don't run with full administrative privileges to begin with.
> This is a new shift in how developers maintain and update their
> applications and it will only take time and possibly new releases of
> certain programs to conform to the new standard.
>
> Read up on it:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...C/default.aspx
>
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...really-is.aspx
>
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
>
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>
> "Don Harvey" <> wrote in message
> news:47648cc8$0$15399$...
>>I have had this new HP with Vista Premium since August and I must say I
>>have not had any problems unlike many that have posted.
>>
>> The only thing I have encountered is that on some programs that were
>> transferred from my XP machine triggers the UAC popup and some do not.
>> It does become irritating at times to have to tell Vista the program is
>> OK over and over again.
>>
>> I can see the value of using UAC but I wish there was a way to tell Vista
>> that a particular program is approved. I now never install to the
>> Programs directory but on some programs it still doesn't help.
>
>

I have installed several application outside of the Program Folder on many
machines for years. Never had a problem with it. It is the best way to
work a dual boot setup. Use a 3rd partition for application installs so you
only have to carry over the registry entries and you don't have to have the
software installed on both OS's.

I have been doing that for at least 2 years. First with dual boot XP
Pro/MCE and now with MCE/Vista. Works like a charm.

--
~Alex T~
..:MVP Windows Shell/User:.

"Brian Bradley" <brian[hyphen]> wrote in message
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> Andre,
>
> What is your opinion about the OP's practice of installing programs in
> folders other than the Programs folder?
>
> I would never do that, but I can't think why it would be harmful.
>
> Brian
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Well, its really a limitation of the program itself, since applicatons in
>> Windows Vista need to support the changes in the new user privileges
>> where applications don't run with full administrative privileges to begin
>> with. This is a new shift in how developers maintain and update their
>> applications and it will only take time and possibly new releases of
>> certain programs to conform to the new standard.
>>
>> Read up on it:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...C/default.aspx
>>
>> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...really-is.aspx
>>
>> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
>>
>> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>
>> "Don Harvey" <> wrote in message
>> news:47648cc8$0$15399$...
>>>I have had this new HP with Vista Premium since August and I must say I
>>>have not had any problems unlike many that have posted.
>>>
>>> The only thing I have encountered is that on some programs that were
>>> transferred from my XP machine triggers the UAC popup and some do not.
>>> It does become irritating at times to have to tell Vista the program is
>>> OK over and over again.
>>>
>>> I can see the value of using UAC but I wish there was a way to tell
>>> Vista that a particular program is approved. I now never install to the
>>> Programs directory but on some programs it still doesn't help.
>>
>>
>

I can second it. However, I do not think it is a good idea to divert Windows
APIs you download or SDKs or any official stuff outside Program Files
folder. It is not recommended by MS. It is a simple security issue.

If you do not carry about security, do whatever you want. I do have some of
my crucial apps located always outside Program Files because it simplifies
my life about 10 times. However at release time I will move them inside.

"~Alex~.:MVP Windows Shell/User:." <> wrote in message
news:6DDEBE54-3D49-49A8-9565-...
>I have installed several application outside of the Program Folder on many
>machines for years. Never had a problem with it. It is the best way to
>work a dual boot setup. Use a 3rd partition for application installs so
>you only have to carry over the registry entries and you don't have to have
>the software installed on both OS's.
>
> I have been doing that for at least 2 years. First with dual boot XP
> Pro/MCE and now with MCE/Vista. Works like a charm.
>
> --
> ~Alex T~
> .:MVP Windows Shell/User:.
>
> "Brian Bradley" <brian[hyphen]> wrote in message
> news:F93A8E8F-42CF-4DA5-B333-...
>> Andre,
>>
>> What is your opinion about the OP's practice of installing programs in
>> folders other than the Programs folder?
>>
>> I would never do that, but I can't think why it would be harmful.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Well, its really a limitation of the program itself, since applicatons
>>> in Windows Vista need to support the changes in the new user privileges
>>> where applications don't run with full administrative privileges to
>>> begin with. This is a new shift in how developers maintain and update
>>> their applications and it will only take time and possibly new releases
>>> of certain programs to conform to the new standard.
>>>
>>> Read up on it:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...C/default.aspx
>>>
>>> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...really-is.aspx
>>>
>>> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
>>>
>>> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>>
>>> "Don Harvey" <> wrote in message
>>> news:47648cc8$0$15399$...
>>>>I have had this new HP with Vista Premium since August and I must say I
>>>>have not had any problems unlike many that have posted.
>>>>
>>>> The only thing I have encountered is that on some programs that were
>>>> transferred from my XP machine triggers the UAC popup and some do not.
>>>> It does become irritating at times to have to tell Vista the program is
>>>> OK over and over again.
>>>>
>>>> I can see the value of using UAC but I wish there was a way to tell
>>>> Vista that a particular program is approved. I now never install to
>>>> the Programs directory but on some programs it still doesn't help.
>>>
>>>
>>