UAC Execptions?

I have two programs that all of the sudden have the UAC pop up every time
the program is executed. Never used to happen. I tried the run as
administrator setting but no change. Don't really want to disable UAC. Can
I add the programs to some type of exception list ? Thanks....
Board: NF-MCP61
Bus Clock: 201 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 05/28/2007
Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB
Slot 'A1' has 1024 MB
2.20 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
256 kilobyte primary memory cache
1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache
NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405 [Display adapter]
WDE LCM-19v1 [Monitor] (19.1"vis, July 2005)
Windows Vista Home Premium (build 6000)
660.14 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
489.93 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

My sugestion sill, turn off uac. Since it is a new stuff, majority of
program wasn't written with uac in mind. Also I don't see any strong reason
to use uac

"Wes" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I have two programs that all of the sudden have the UAC pop up every time
>the program is executed. Never used to happen. I tried the run as
>administrator setting but no change. Don't really want to disable UAC. Can
>I add the programs to some type of exception list ? Thanks....
> Board: NF-MCP61
> Bus Clock: 201 megahertz
> BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 05/28/2007
> Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB
> Slot 'A1' has 1024 MB
> 2.20 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
> 256 kilobyte primary memory cache
> 1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache
> NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405 [Display adapter]
> WDE LCM-19v1 [Monitor] (19.1"vis, July 2005)
> Windows Vista Home Premium (build 6000)
> 660.14 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
> 489.93 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
>

Hi Wes,

No, there is no exception list (if there was, it would immediately be
targeted by malware). If they are prompting suddenly, and didn't previously,
then something has changed about the system or the program. Have you done
any updating (either the program or windows) or changed permissions? A UAC
prompt indicates the program is trying to write to or change a file in a
protected system folder instead of the programs' virtual appfolder.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Wes" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I have two programs that all of the sudden have the UAC pop up every time
>the program is executed. Never used to happen. I tried the run as
>administrator setting but no change. Don't really want to disable UAC. Can
>I add the programs to some type of exception list ? Thanks....
> Board: NF-MCP61
> Bus Clock: 201 megahertz
> BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 05/28/2007
> Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB
> Slot 'A1' has 1024 MB
> 2.20 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
> 256 kilobyte primary memory cache
> 1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache
> NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405 [Display adapter]
> WDE LCM-19v1 [Monitor] (19.1"vis, July 2005)
> Windows Vista Home Premium (build 6000)
> 660.14 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
> 489.93 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
>

"Wes" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I have two programs that all of the sudden have the UAC pop up every time
>the program is executed. Never used to happen. I tried the run as
>administrator setting but no change. Don't really want to disable UAC. Can
>I add the programs to some type of exception list ? Thanks....


Possibly a case of the attempted solution being the cause of the problem.

Try unchecking any 'Run as administrator' option that you checked
previously.

--
Jon

"Rick Rogers" <> wrote in
news::

> Hi Wes,
>
> No, there is no exception list (if there was, it would immediately
> be targeted by malware). If they are prompting suddenly, and
> didn't previously, then something has changed about the system or
> the program. Have you done any updating (either the program or
> windows) or changed permissions? A UAC prompt indicates the
> program is trying to write to or change a file in a protected
> system folder instead of the programs' virtual appfolder.

Is there a reason Microsoft cannot do UAC exceptions based on hash
rules?

If the executable changes (updated, infection, etc), the user gets a
prompt to reauthorize the program. This should present a red flag to
the end user.

The system is some what broken the way it is. This encourages people
to turn UAC off which is not the desired method that Microsoft would
suggest.

Adam
--
Visit my PC Tech blog at www.leinss.com/blog

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:53:52 GMT, Adam Leinss <>
wrote:

>"Rick Rogers" <> wrote in
>news::
>
>> Hi Wes,
>>
>> No, there is no exception list (if there was, it would immediately
>> be targeted by malware). If they are prompting suddenly, and
>> didn't previously, then something has changed about the system or
>> the program. Have you done any updating (either the program or
>> windows) or changed permissions? A UAC prompt indicates the
>> program is trying to write to or change a file in a protected
>> system folder instead of the programs' virtual appfolder.
>
>Is there a reason Microsoft cannot do UAC exceptions based on hash
>rules?

Of course not. UAC while good in concept is poor in implementation. It
also is badly broken. As I've said before Vista is so dumb after I
made changes in policy settings following advice on a Microsoft web
page to the letter Vista at the same time now shows that UAC is on if
you look in Control Panel and also nags to TURN IT ON, meaning it also
thinks it is off with an annoying pop up in the lower right corner of
the desktop.

Microsoft should hire some software engineers that know what they're
doing. Don't hold your breath waiting.

>If the executable changes (updated, infection, etc), the user gets a
>prompt to reauthorize the program. This should present a red flag to
>the end user.

Yes, a safe and often used method employed by software based firewall
applications.
>
>The system is some what broken the way it is. This encourages people
>to turn UAC off which is not the desired method that Microsoft would
>suggest.

Exactly. Now watch the fanboy mob squeal it isn't so and say we don't
know what we're talking about.

I had the same issue. All of a sudden a previously functioning program
mysteriously started being blocked by UAC. And of course it was listed as
being blocked. I unchecked the Run As Admin and the weird UAC popup
stopped. Another Run as Admin quirk with word 2000. Click on a .doc file and
Explorer says can't find the file, check the path. Once I removed the Run as
Admin from winword.exe, all worked fine. I don't fully understand what Run
as Admin does (or is supposed to do), but it does weird things from what I
have experienced and read here.

"Wes" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I have two programs that all of the sudden have the UAC pop up every time
>the program is executed. Never used to happen. I tried the run as
>administrator setting but no change. Don't really want to disable UAC. Can
>I add the programs to some type of exception list ? Thanks....
> Board: NF-MCP61
> Bus Clock: 201 megahertz
> BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 05/28/2007
> Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB
> Slot 'A1' has 1024 MB
> 2.20 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
> 256 kilobyte primary memory cache
> 1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache
> NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405 [Display adapter]
> WDE LCM-19v1 [Monitor] (19.1"vis, July 2005)
> Windows Vista Home Premium (build 6000)
> 660.14 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
> 489.93 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
>

Hi,

The solution is for software to run where it should, in the virtual folder
created for it in the user profile. Software will catch up eventually to the
new requirements.

If there were some method of creating exceptions, you can rest assured that
malware writers would keep at it until they found a workaround. I would have
to side with Microsoft on this one on locking it down without exception,
there is just too many risks in allowing any sort of avenue for exception.
In truth, this is not a new concept, as any long time linux user can tell
you. Certain actions simply will require root privilege, and that it
shouldn't be invoked without the user's consent.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Adam Leinss" <> wrote in message
news:Xns99CA64B2DC6F8aleinsstoughguy@140.99.99.138 ...
> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in
> news::
>
>> Hi Wes,
>>
>> No, there is no exception list (if there was, it would immediately
>> be targeted by malware). If they are prompting suddenly, and
>> didn't previously, then something has changed about the system or
>> the program. Have you done any updating (either the program or
>> windows) or changed permissions? A UAC prompt indicates the
>> program is trying to write to or change a file in a protected
>> system folder instead of the programs' virtual appfolder.
>
> Is there a reason Microsoft cannot do UAC exceptions based on hash
> rules?
>
> If the executable changes (updated, infection, etc), the user gets a
> prompt to reauthorize the program. This should present a red flag to
> the end user.
>
> The system is some what broken the way it is. This encourages people
> to turn UAC off which is not the desired method that Microsoft would
> suggest.
>
> Adam
> --
> Visit my PC Tech blog at www.leinss.com/blog

A little secret about Vista.

Go to my computer and right click on you harddrive and select
properties. Select the security tab. Click the advanced button. Select
the tab labeled owner. Press the edit button. Highlight you user account
with one left click. Put a check in the box that reads Replace owner on
subfolders and objects. Click apply.

Several files will be locked and will generate stop messages. Always
click continue, never cancel. Continue till the process ends.

Close the Advanced security settings window by clicking OK. Twice. You
will end up back at the properties window for your harddrive. Click
Edit. Select your user account from the top box and then put a check in
the full control box in the box below. All boxes should be checked
automaticly once this is done.

Click OK at the bottom of the permissions window.

Click OK at the bottom of the Harddrives properties window.

You now have full administrators rights at all times and no longer need
to run any program by selecting the run as administrators option.

You are the administrator. And the owner.


--
joel406

And easily infected by malware that no longer needs to get your permission
to install itself on your system.

Weak security was fine in the early mass computing days (Win's 3.x to 98),
but by the time XP came out (2001), it was well proven that users will get
themselves infected without proper protection. Recommending that it be
circumvented is irresponsible and doing the masses of users a great
disservice.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"joel406" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> A little secret about Vista.
>
> Go to my computer and right click on you harddrive and select
> properties. Select the security tab. Click the advanced button. Select
> the tab labeled owner. Press the edit button. Highlight you user account
> with one left click. Put a check in the box that reads Replace owner on
> subfolders and objects. Click apply.
>
> Several files will be locked and will generate stop messages. Always
> click continue, never cancel. Continue till the process ends.
>
> Close the Advanced security settings window by clicking OK. Twice. You
> will end up back at the properties window for your harddrive. Click
> Edit. Select your user account from the top box and then put a check in
> the full control box in the box below. All boxes should be checked
> automaticly once this is done.
>
> Click OK at the bottom of the permissions window.
>
> Click OK at the bottom of the Harddrives properties window.
>
> You now have full administrators rights at all times and no longer need
> to run any program by selecting the run as administrators option.
>
> You are the administrator. And the owner.
>
>
> --
> joel406