Unable to install Live Messenger 8.5

Our corporate workstation (XPSP2) has Windows Update feature disabled and
we're trying to download from the link; http://get.live.com/messenger/config,
but Live components update keeps failure after lengthy upgrade (scanning and
downloading) process over company LAN.

Yet, installing a previous version, 8.1 is not a problem. Is it because of
the disabled WU features?

Greetings Nick,

Try directly from this MSI file:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/wlm85.asp

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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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"Nick" <> wrote in message
news:87051E49-7A3D-4683-9CA0-...
> Our corporate workstation (XPSP2) has Windows Update feature disabled and
> we're trying to download from the link; http://get.live.com/messenger/config,
> but Live components update keeps failure after lengthy upgrade (scanning and
> downloading) process over company LAN.
>
> Yet, installing a previous version, 8.1 is not a problem. Is it because of
> the disabled WU features?
>
>

Thanks! Jonathan.

I confirmed the standalone installer does work with the workstation.
I assume the "on-demand" installer (WLinstaller.exe) itself proves
problematic.
I wonder how come MS shift to such annoying "on-demand" type instead of the
traditional standalone type. (Maybe for genuine checking purpose?)

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Greetings Nick,
>
> Try directly from this MSI file:
> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/wlm85.asp
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
>
>
> "Nick" <> wrote in message
> news:87051E49-7A3D-4683-9CA0-...
> > Our corporate workstation (XPSP2) has Windows Update feature disabled and
> > we're trying to download from the link; http://get.live.com/messenger/config,
> > but Live components update keeps failure after lengthy upgrade (scanning and
> > downloading) process over company LAN.
> >
> > Yet, installing a previous version, 8.1 is not a problem. Is it because of
> > the disabled WU features?
> >
> >
>

HI Nick,

You're not the only person who's had trouble with it, believe me.

I think the point was to improve the visibility of the other Live products and to make it
"easy" to update to the latest versions without having to go through the download, install
routine for each application.

I hate to blast people's hard work, but I do believe the installer was released too early as
it's not very robust, had some severe compatibility issues, in some cases downloads the wrong
versions and other problems.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--


"Nick" <> wrote in message
news:182A1BBC-0811-487B-95A0-...
> Thanks! Jonathan.
>
> I confirmed the standalone installer does work with the workstation.
> I assume the "on-demand" installer (WLinstaller.exe) itself proves
> problematic.
> I wonder how come MS shift to such annoying "on-demand" type instead of the
> traditional standalone type. (Maybe for genuine checking purpose?)
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Greetings Nick,
>>
>> Try directly from this MSI file:
>> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/wlm85.asp
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> "Nick" <> wrote in message
>> news:87051E49-7A3D-4683-9CA0-...
>> > Our corporate workstation (XPSP2) has Windows Update feature disabled and
>> > we're trying to download from the link; http://get.live.com/messenger/config,
>> > but Live components update keeps failure after lengthy upgrade (scanning and
>> > downloading) process over company LAN.
>> >
>> > Yet, installing a previous version, 8.1 is not a problem. Is it because of
>> > the disabled WU features?
>> >
>> >
>>

Jonathan

Thanks always for your prompt response. I understand your technical
perspective toward the WL installer.

Cheers.
Nick

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> HI Nick,
>
> You're not the only person who's had trouble with it, believe me.
>
> I think the point was to improve the visibility of the other Live products and to make it
> "easy" to update to the latest versions without having to go through the download, install
> routine for each application.
>
> I hate to blast people's hard work, but I do believe the installer was released too early as
> it's not very robust, had some severe compatibility issues, in some cases downloads the wrong
> versions and other problems.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
>
> "Nick" <> wrote in message
> news:182A1BBC-0811-487B-95A0-...
> > Thanks! Jonathan.
> >
> > I confirmed the standalone installer does work with the workstation.
> > I assume the "on-demand" installer (WLinstaller.exe) itself proves
> > problematic.
> > I wonder how come MS shift to such annoying "on-demand" type instead of the
> > traditional standalone type. (Maybe for genuine checking purpose?)
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings Nick,
> >>
> >> Try directly from this MSI file:
> >> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/wlm85.asp
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jonathan Kay
> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> >> Associate Expert
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
> >> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Nick" <> wrote in message
> >> news:87051E49-7A3D-4683-9CA0-...
> >> > Our corporate workstation (XPSP2) has Windows Update feature disabled and
> >> > we're trying to download from the link; http://get.live.com/messenger/config,
> >> > but Live components update keeps failure after lengthy upgrade (scanning and
> >> > downloading) process over company LAN.
> >> >
> >> > Yet, installing a previous version, 8.1 is not a problem. Is it because of
> >> > the disabled WU features?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>

I'm having a problem with Messenger on Server 2003 64 bit. I used the MSI
and 8.5 installed (upgraded from 8) but this morning all our users (using
smart terminals) get the message that they have to upgrade. Is there any
other version for 03 64bit?
Thanks

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Greetings Nick,
>
> Try directly from this MSI file:
> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/wlm85.asp
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
>
>
> "Nick" <> wrote in message
> news:87051E49-7A3D-4683-9CA0-...
> > Our corporate workstation (XPSP2) has Windows Update feature disabled and
> > we're trying to download from the link; http://get.live.com/messenger/config,
> > but Live components update keeps failure after lengthy upgrade (scanning and
> > downloading) process over company LAN.
> >
> > Yet, installing a previous version, 8.1 is not a problem. Is it because of
> > the disabled WU features?
> >
> >
>

Greetings,

Please see my blog on this:
http://messengergeek.spaces.live.com...DA1!3406.entry

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
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"Sandi" <> wrote in message
news:88392D78-26A9-45AF-9BAC-...
> I'm having a problem with Messenger on Server 2003 64 bit. I used the MSI
> and 8.5 installed (upgraded from 8) but this morning all our users (using
> smart terminals) get the message that they have to upgrade. Is there any
> other version for 03 64bit?
> Thanks
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Greetings Nick,
>>
>> Try directly from this MSI file:
>> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/wlm85.asp
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> "Nick" <> wrote in message
>> news:87051E49-7A3D-4683-9CA0-...
>> > Our corporate workstation (XPSP2) has Windows Update feature disabled and
>> > we're trying to download from the link; http://get.live.com/messenger/config,
>> > but Live components update keeps failure after lengthy upgrade (scanning and
>> > downloading) process over company LAN.
>> >
>> > Yet, installing a previous version, 8.1 is not a problem. Is it because of
>> > the disabled WU features?
>> >
>> >
>>