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Mike
One of the reasons that the designation 'MS-MVP' exists is that MS appreciates that they DON'T know all the answers - and that independent voices can occasionally get things more right than they do (is anyone really surprised at that??). One of the consequences of this is that MS also recognise that MS-MVP's will occasionally argue with/against each other/the party line/MS - and they are happy for this to happen (at least that's the case so far - and I hope it continues) - if the person gets too far out of line, then they always have the right to strip the designation (and that's the way it should be!). NO (sic.) MS-MVP is required to do anything except behave in a 'professional manner' (whatever that means, by MS's lights!). Unfortunately some MVP's seem to think that once they have the designation, they take on god-like powers of omniscience, and omnirectitude..... it's a temptation that most resist successfully, but.... I'm as guilty as most (and more guilty than many) for bringing my personal preferences to these groups (do a Google search for my name with Norton added......) - but that's par for the course. When I see someone post stupid advice to the groups, I will pull them on it - whether it's a first-time poster, or Bill Gates hisself (I haven't had to do that yet, but you never know....  )There IS a place for flatten/rebuild - especially within the corporate environment - but a simple spyware infestation (note, I aviod the use of 'infection' for spyware!) in a SoHO environment is NOT it. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "MAP" <> wrote in message news:... > Noel Paton wrote: >> 1) it's not a virus, it's adware/spyware. >> 2) it's not a 'severe' attack - it's a single instance (so far) >> 3) Larry's blog points out that the Sasser work that hit him had a >> potentially unknown payload - the OP's problem is well-known and the >> solution well-defined. >> 4) Larry was also on a Corporate Network - and I suspect that network >> policy as much as anything else dictated flatten and rebuild, and >> he'd have had recent backups - you neglected to ask the OP about >> that, and to point out the logical consequences of a reformat. > >>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) > >>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi >>http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm > > > Noel, > It's nice to see an MVP that doesn't just repeat whatever MS puts out! > Carey > has been advocationg a reformat on even the simplest infection, no doubt > somebody somewhere has followed his advise needlessly. > Thank you :-) > > P.S. I visited you website it's now in my favorites! > > -- > Mike Pawlak > > |
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Will you provide the OP a 100% guarantee that simply
removing the offending spyware/malware files will provide a safe system, especially if making on-line purchases with a credit card? Nowadays, spyware/malware is very sophisticated and will hide in the registry until opportunity strikes! -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Microsoft Community Newsgroups news://msnews.microsoft.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---------------- "Noel Paton" wrote: | Mike | One of the reasons that the designation 'MS-MVP' exists is that MS | appreciates that they DON'T know all the answers - and that independent | voices can occasionally get things more right than they do (is anyone really | surprised at that??). | One of the consequences of this is that MS also recognise that MS-MVP's will | occasionally argue with/against each other/the party line/MS - and they are | happy for this to happen (at least that's the case so far - and I hope it | continues) - if the person gets too far out of line, then they always have | the right to strip the designation (and that's the way it should be!). | | NO (sic.) MS-MVP is required to do anything except behave in a 'professional | manner' (whatever that means, by MS's lights!). Unfortunately some MVP's | seem to think that once they have the designation, they take on god-like | powers of omniscience, and omnirectitude..... it's a temptation that most | resist successfully, but.... | | I'm as guilty as most (and more guilty than many) for bringing my personal | preferences to these groups (do a Google search for my name with Norton | added......) - but that's par for the course. When I see someone post | stupid advice to the groups, I will pull them on it - whether it's a | first-time poster, or Bill Gates hisself (I haven't had to do that yet, but | you never know.... )| | There IS a place for flatten/rebuild - especially within the corporate | environment - but a simple spyware infestation (note, I aviod the use of | 'infection' for spyware!) in a SoHO environment is NOT it. | | -- | Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) | | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm | | http://tinyurl.com/6oztj | | Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's | "MAP" <> wrote in message | news:... | > Noel Paton wrote: | >> 1) it's not a virus, it's adware/spyware. | >> 2) it's not a 'severe' attack - it's a single instance (so far) | >> 3) Larry's blog points out that the Sasser work that hit him had a | >> potentially unknown payload - the OP's problem is well-known and the | >> solution well-defined. | >> 4) Larry was also on a Corporate Network - and I suspect that network | >> policy as much as anything else dictated flatten and rebuild, and | >> he'd have had recent backups - you neglected to ask the OP about | >> that, and to point out the logical consequences of a reformat. | > | >>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) | > | >>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | >>http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm | > | > | > Noel, | > It's nice to see an MVP that doesn't just repeat whatever MS puts out! | > Carey | > has been advocationg a reformat on even the simplest infection, no doubt | > somebody somewhere has followed his advise needlessly. | > Thank you :-) | > | > P.S. I visited you website it's now in my favorites! | > | > -- | > Mike Pawlak | > | > | |
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Nothing in life is certain - including the possibilities that his System
Recovery disks won't work as designed, or will either leave him open to Sasser etc, and worse off than before. I've removed many of this type of infection - and never had a repeat occurrence from any of the people involved - they learned a lot more from the cleaning process than a reformat would have taught them, and also learned some of the rules of Safe Hex along the way - which helps everyone on the internet. the person who reformats every time they hit a problem is the one who tend NOT to modify their online behaviour - and consequently is a danger to himself, his computer, and the rest of us. There ain't nowhere to hide from the MkII eyeball. To upgrade from the MkI eyeball simply get some training and experience - and keep up-to-date with the nasties. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message news:... > Will you provide the OP a 100% guarantee that simply > removing the offending spyware/malware files will provide > a safe system, especially if making on-line purchases with > a credit card? Nowadays, spyware/malware is very sophisticated > and will hide in the registry until opportunity strikes! > > -- > Carey Frisch > Microsoft MVP > Windows - Shell/User > Microsoft Community Newsgroups > news://msnews.microsoft.com/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---------------- > > "Noel Paton" wrote: > > | Mike > | One of the reasons that the designation 'MS-MVP' exists is that MS > | appreciates that they DON'T know all the answers - and that independent > | voices can occasionally get things more right than they do (is anyone > really > | surprised at that??). > | One of the consequences of this is that MS also recognise that MS-MVP's > will > | occasionally argue with/against each other/the party line/MS - and they > are > | happy for this to happen (at least that's the case so far - and I hope > it > | continues) - if the person gets too far out of line, then they always > have > | the right to strip the designation (and that's the way it should be!). > | > | NO (sic.) MS-MVP is required to do anything except behave in a > 'professional > | manner' (whatever that means, by MS's lights!). Unfortunately some > MVP's > | seem to think that once they have the designation, they take on god-like > | powers of omniscience, and omnirectitude..... it's a temptation that > most > | resist successfully, but.... > | > | I'm as guilty as most (and more guilty than many) for bringing my > personal > | preferences to these groups (do a Google search for my name with Norton > | added......) - but that's par for the course. When I see someone post > | stupid advice to the groups, I will pull them on it - whether it's a > | first-time poster, or Bill Gates hisself (I haven't had to do that yet, > but > | you never know.... )> | > | There IS a place for flatten/rebuild - especially within the corporate > | environment - but a simple spyware infestation (note, I aviod the use of > | 'infection' for spyware!) in a SoHO environment is NOT it. > | > | -- > | Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) > | > | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi > | http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm > | > | http://tinyurl.com/6oztj > | > | Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to > NG's > | "MAP" <> wrote in message > | news:... > | > Noel Paton wrote: > | >> 1) it's not a virus, it's adware/spyware. > | >> 2) it's not a 'severe' attack - it's a single instance (so far) > | >> 3) Larry's blog points out that the Sasser work that hit him had a > | >> potentially unknown payload - the OP's problem is well-known and the > | >> solution well-defined. > | >> 4) Larry was also on a Corporate Network - and I suspect that network > | >> policy as much as anything else dictated flatten and rebuild, and > | >> he'd have had recent backups - you neglected to ask the OP about > | >> that, and to point out the logical consequences of a reformat. > | > > | >>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) > | > > | >>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi > | >>http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm > | > > | > > | > Noel, > | > It's nice to see an MVP that doesn't just repeat whatever MS puts out! > | > Carey > | > has been advocationg a reformat on even the simplest infection, no > doubt > | > somebody somewhere has followed his advise needlessly. > | > Thank you :-) > | > > | > P.S. I visited you website it's now in my favorites! > | > > | > -- > | > Mike Pawlak > | > > | > > | > |
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