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Shenan Stanley
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Grantcounty wrote:
> My system has not been able to install MS Updates for some time. I > have been trying to solve the problem with the recommendations > listed in this group. I have run the bat files listed started and > restarted the incryption service with auto on. In the process I > have discovered that my system does not have the update.inf file. > It isn't present even in a cab file. I will probablyh have to run > some process to build it. I have tried to have the auto update > installed but that won't happen because the site already sees it > installed. > > Question: what process installs update.inf? I am running XP with > SP3. I have also noticed that I cannot display my application, > security, and system event logs. Sounds like you are/have been infested/infected with some horrible things and/or you have some drive/file corruption going on. What is your current backup situation? In particular, your (things you created) documents (word, excel, powerpoint, open office, wordperfect, etc), Internet Favorites/Bookmarks, emails, contacts, pictures/photos/images, music/pother audio, installation files (executables), serial numbers and product keys, databases, etc and so on? Best if you also have some sort of full image of the drive on your computer, but if you have at least your stuff, the rest can be rebuilt around that. Here's my suggestion - it's a procedure, not a 'do this and try again, if that doesn't work, do this and try again' - but a 'do this, this, this, this, this and this and then try' thing. Long, easy, but time consuming. If nothing else, you will end up with a cleaner system and a lot of possible issues will be eliminated. First - please verify the exact edition, version and architecture of Windows XP you have: Press and hold down the Windows key on your keyboard and then press the "Pause/Break" key. Let go of both. This is equivalent in Windows XP to having right-clicked on the "My Computer" icon and chosen "Properties" from the menu that appears. When the new window appears - ensure you are under the "General" tab. Is there *anything* in there to indicate you have a 64-bit version of Windows XP, like the words, "Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Version"? Next we will get the edition and version information... Start button --> RUN (no "RUN"? Press the "Windows Key" + R on your keyboard) --> type in: winver --> Click OK. The picture at the top of the window that opens will give you the general (Operating System name and edition) while the line starting with the word "version" will give you the rest of the story. Post _both_ in response to this message verbatim. No paraphrasing - instead - ensure character-for-character copying. What version of Internet Explorer are you currently using? Easy to find out. Open Internet Explorer and while that is in-focus, press and hold the "ALT" key on your keyboard. With the "ALT" key still pressed, press (just once, no holding) the "H" key. Now, with the "ALT" key still pressed, press (just once, no holding) the "A" key. That will bring up the "About Internet Explorer" window. It will give you the exact version you are using - repeat what you see there in response to this message. Reboot so you start with a fresh machine. For everything here you will need to logon as an user with administrative (installation) priviledges. Fix your file/registry permissions... Ignore the title and follow the sub-section under "Advanced Troubleshooting" titled, "Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377 *will take time ** Ignore the last step (6) - you'll said you have SP3 already... You will likely see errors pass by if you watching, even count up. No worries *at this time*. *After* that is done, continue on to the next part where you clean off some excess (unnecessary) files. It only removes those you definitely do not need, if you follow the directions *as given* and do not deviate. So reboot (for each of these steps, it is just best to reboot right before - but I will continue to point that out) and logon as an user with administrative priviledges. Download/install the "Windows Installer CleanUp Utility": http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 After installing, do the following: Start button --> RUN (no "RUN"? Press the "Windows Key" + R on your keyboard) --> type in: "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g! --> Click OK. (The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing should be exact.) It will flash by *quick*, don't expect much out of this step to get excited about. But the cleaner your machine is to start with, the better your luck will be later (not really luck - more like preparedness, but that's not as fun to think about, eh?) Yeah - you will get tired of rebooting - but let's soldier on and reboot again and logon as an user with administrative priviledges. This time (and this is one of the more time-consuming steps) you will be running (one at a time with reboots in-between each) three different anti-spyware/anti-malware applications to ensure you come up clean. Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan with the following (freeware version): SuperAntiSpyware http://www.superantispyware.com/ Reboot and logon as administrative user. Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan with the following (freeware version): MalwareBytes http://www.malwarebytes.com/ Reboot and logon as administrative user. Download and run the MSRT manually: http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx You may find nothing, you may find only cookies, you may think it is a waste of time - but if you do all this and report back here with what you do/don't find as you are doing all of it - you are adding more pieces to the puzzle and the entire picture just may become clearer and your problem resolved. Reboot and logon as administrative user. Download/Install the latest Windows Installer (for your OS): ( Windows XP 32-bit : WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86.exe ) http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/d...displaylang=en Reboot and logon as administrative user. Download the latest version of the Windows Update agent from here (x86): http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237 .... and save it to the root of your C:\ drive. After saving it to the root of the C:\ drive, do the following: Close all Internet Explorer windows and other applications. Start button --> RUN and type in: %SystemDrive%\windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe /WUFORCE --> Click OK. (If asked, select "Run.) --> Click on NEXT --> Select "I agree" and click on NEXT --> When it finishes installing, click on "Finish"... Reboot and logon as administrative user. Visit this web page: How do I reset Windows Update components? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058 .... and click on the "Microsoft Fix it" icon. When asked, select "RUN", both times. Check the "I agree" box and click on "Next". Check the box for "Run aggressive options (not recommended)" and click "Next". Let it finish up and follow the prompts until it is done. Close/exit and reboot when it is. You should now perform a full CHKDSK on your system drive (C ...How to scan your disks for errors http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265 * will take time and a reboot You should now perform a full Defragment on your system drive (C ...How to Defragment your hard drives http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848 * will take time Uninstall any and all third-party firewall applications (ZoneAlarm, etc) and utilize the built-in WIndows Firewall only. Reboot and logon as administrative user, open Internet Explorer and visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and select to do a CUSTOM scan... Every time you are about to click on something while at these web pages - first press and hold down the CTRL key while you click on it. You can release the CTRL key after clicking each time. Once the scan is done, select just _ONE_ of the high priority updates (deselect any others) and install it. Reboot again. If it did work - try the web page again - selecting no more than 3-5 at a time. Rebooting as needed. The Optional Software updates are generally safe - although I recommend against the "Windows Search" one and any of the "Office Live" ones or "Windows Live" ones for now. I would completely avoid the Optional Hardware updates. Also - I do not see any urgent need to install Internet Explorer 8 at this time. Seriously - do all that. This is like antibiotics - don't skip a single step, don't quit because you think things will be okay now - go through until the end, until you have done everything given in the order given. If you have a problem with a step come ask and let someone here get you through that step. If you don't understand how to do a step, come back and ask here about that step and let someone walk you through it. Then - when done - let everyone here know if it worked for you - or if you have more issues. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Harry Johnston [MVP]
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On 2010-04-13 1:19 p.m., Grantcounty wrote:
> My system has not been able to install MS Updates for some time. I have been > trying to solve the problem with the recommendations listed in this group. I > have run the bat files listed started and restarted the incryption service > with auto on. In the process I have discovered that my system does not have > the update.inf file. It isn't present even in a cab file. I will probablyh > have to run some process to build it. I have tried to have the auto update > installed but that won't happen because the site already sees it installed. > > Question: what process installs update.inf? I am running XP with SP3. I have > also noticed that I cannot display my application, security, and system event > logs. There is an update.inf included in most Windows XP updates. It isn't a system file but part of the update, and is different for each update. Normally it will be extracted temporarily while the update is installed and then deleted, i.e., it is perfectly normal that you do not have a copy on your system. Harry. -- Harry Johnston http://harryjohnston.wordpress.com |
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
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What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)? How do I reset Windows Update components?: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058 For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with security updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB999999). If your problem relates to a Cumulative Security Update for IE, call the above number and ask to be transferred to the "Consumer IE queue" (which is 47830). Or you can... Start a free Windows Update support incident request: https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527 Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates also can visit the following pages for assistance: https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/ http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3 For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through your usual support contacts. Grantcounty wrote: > My system has not been able to install MS Updates for some time. I have > been > trying to solve the problem with the recommendations listed in this group. > I > have run the bat files listed started and restarted the incryption service > with auto on. In the process I have discovered that my system does not > have > the update.inf file. It isn't present even in a cab file. I will probablyh > have to run some process to build it. I have tried to have the auto update > installed but that won't happen because the site already sees it > installed. > > Question: what process installs update.inf? I am running XP with SP3. I > have > also noticed that I cannot display my application, security, and system > event logs. > Thanks_Grantcounty |
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Grantcounty
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Thank you all for the responses. The response from Shenan is requring a lot
of time, and I have some pressing tasks to take care of. I won't say that it has anything to do with April 15. It will be a few days before I get back with you, and I didn't want you to think that I just jumped in and out. I did reset the Update area because I was prticularly interested in doing that. It cleared the list of updates and only had the two I am trying to install: kb978601 and kb979309 listed as failed. My previouse updates are still in the "Add Remove Prog" list . It is looking more like I will reload the OS. But I have one of those systems without a disk. Only a system recovery area on the HD. I will advise one way or the other. Thanks again. "Shenan Stanley" wrote: > Grantcounty wrote: > > My system has not been able to install MS Updates for some time. I > > have been trying to solve the problem with the recommendations > > listed in this group. I have run the bat files listed started and > > restarted the incryption service with auto on. In the process I > > have discovered that my system does not have the update.inf file. > > It isn't present even in a cab file. I will probablyh have to run > > some process to build it. I have tried to have the auto update > > installed but that won't happen because the site already sees it > > installed. > > > > Question: what process installs update.inf? I am running XP with > > SP3. I have also noticed that I cannot display my application, > > security, and system event logs. > > Sounds like you are/have been infested/infected with some horrible things > and/or you have some drive/file corruption going on. > > What is your current backup situation? In particular, your (things you > created) documents (word, excel, powerpoint, open office, wordperfect, etc), > Internet Favorites/Bookmarks, emails, contacts, pictures/photos/images, > music/pother audio, installation files (executables), serial numbers and > product keys, databases, etc and so on? Best if you also have some sort of > full image of the drive on your computer, but if you have at least your > stuff, the rest can be rebuilt around that. > > Here's my suggestion - it's a procedure, not a 'do this and try again, if > that doesn't work, do this and try again' - but a 'do this, this, this, > this, this and this and then try' thing. Long, easy, but time consuming. > If nothing else, you will end up with a cleaner system and a lot of possible > issues will be eliminated. > > First - please verify the exact edition, version and architecture of > Windows XP you have: > > Press and hold down the Windows key on your keyboard and then press the > "Pause/Break" key. Let go of both. This is equivalent in Windows XP to > having right-clicked on the "My Computer" icon and chosen "Properties" > from the menu that appears. When the new window appears - ensure you are > under the "General" tab. Is there *anything* in there to indicate you > have a 64-bit version of Windows XP, like the words, "Windows XP > Professional x64 Edition Version"? > > Next we will get the edition and version information... > > Start button --> RUN > (no "RUN"? Press the "Windows Key" + R on your keyboard) > --> type in: > winver > --> Click OK. > > The picture at the top of the window that opens will give you the general > (Operating System name and edition) while the line starting with the word > "version" will give you the rest of the story. Post _both_ in response > to this message verbatim. No paraphrasing - instead - ensure > character-for-character copying. > > What version of Internet Explorer are you currently using? Easy to find > out. Open Internet Explorer and while that is in-focus, press and hold > the "ALT" key on your keyboard. With the "ALT" key still pressed, press > (just once, no holding) the "H" key. Now, with the "ALT" key still > pressed, press (just once, no holding) the "A" key. That will bring up > the "About Internet Explorer" window. It will give you the exact version > you are using - repeat what you see there in response to this message. > > Reboot so you start with a fresh machine. For everything here you will > need to logon as an user with administrative (installation) priviledges. > > Fix your file/registry permissions... > > Ignore the title and follow the sub-section under > "Advanced Troubleshooting" titled, > "Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions" > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377 > *will take time > ** Ignore the last step (6) - you'll said you have SP3 already... > > You will likely see errors pass by if you watching, even count up. No > worries *at this time*. > > *After* that is done, continue on to the next part where you clean off > some excess (unnecessary) files. It only removes those you definitely > do not need, if you follow the directions *as given* and do not deviate. > So reboot (for each of these steps, it is just best to reboot right > before - but I will continue to point that out) and logon as an user with > administrative priviledges. > > Download/install the "Windows Installer CleanUp Utility": > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 > > After installing, do the following: > > Start button --> RUN > (no "RUN"? Press the "Windows Key" + R on your keyboard) > --> type in: > "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g! > --> Click OK. > (The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing should be exact.) > > It will flash by *quick*, don't expect much out of this step to get > excited about. But the cleaner your machine is to start with, the > better your luck will be later (not really luck - more like preparedness, > but that's not as fun to think about, eh?) > > Yeah - you will get tired of rebooting - but let's soldier on and reboot > again and logon as an user with administrative priviledges. > > This time (and this is one of the more time-consuming steps) you will be > running (one at a time with reboots in-between each) three different > anti-spyware/anti-malware applications to ensure you come up clean. > > Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan with the following > (freeware version): > > SuperAntiSpyware > http://www.superantispyware.com/ > > Reboot and logon as administrative user. > > Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan with the following > (freeware version): > > MalwareBytes > http://www.malwarebytes.com/ > > Reboot and logon as administrative user. > > Download and run the MSRT manually: > http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx > > You may find nothing, you may find only cookies, you may think it is a > waste of time - but if you do all this and report back here with what you > do/don't find as you are doing all of it - you are adding more pieces to > the puzzle and the entire picture just may become clearer and your > problem resolved. > > Reboot and logon as administrative user. > > Download/Install the latest Windows Installer (for your OS): > ( Windows XP 32-bit : WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86.exe ) > http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/d...displaylang=en > > Reboot and logon as administrative user. > > Download the latest version of the Windows Update agent from here (x86): > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237 > .... and save it to the root of your C:\ drive. After saving it to the > root of the C:\ drive, do the following: > > Close all Internet Explorer windows and other applications. > > Start button --> RUN and type in: > %SystemDrive%\windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe /WUFORCE > --> Click OK. > > (If asked, select "Run.) --> Click on NEXT --> Select "I agree" and click on > NEXT --> When it finishes installing, click on "Finish"... > > Reboot and logon as administrative user. > > Visit this web page: > > How do I reset Windows Update components? > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058 > > .... and click on the "Microsoft Fix it" icon. When asked, select "RUN", > both times. Check the "I agree" box and click on "Next". Check the box > for "Run aggressive options (not recommended)" and click "Next". Let > it finish up and follow the prompts until it is done. Close/exit and > reboot when it is. > > You should now perform a full CHKDSK on your system drive (C ...> > How to scan your disks for errors > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265 > * will take time and a reboot > > You should now perform a full Defragment on your system drive (C ...> > How to Defragment your hard drives > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848 > * will take time > > Uninstall any and all third-party firewall applications (ZoneAlarm, etc) > and utilize the built-in WIndows Firewall only. > > Reboot and logon as administrative user, open Internet Explorer > and visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and select to do a > CUSTOM scan... > > Every time you are about to click on something while at these web pages - > first press and hold down the CTRL key while you click on it. You can > release the CTRL key after clicking each time. > > Once the scan is done, select just _ONE_ of the high priority updates > (deselect any others) and install it. > > Reboot again. > > If it did work - try the web page again - selecting no more than 3-5 at a > time. Rebooting as needed. > > The Optional Software updates are generally safe - although I recommend > against the "Windows Search" one and any of the "Office Live" ones or > "Windows Live" ones for now. I would completely avoid the > Optional Hardware updates. Also - I do not see any urgent need to > install Internet Explorer 8 at this time. > > Seriously - do all that. This is like antibiotics - don't skip a single > step, don't quit because you think things will be okay now - go through > until the end, until you have done everything given in the order given. If > you have a problem with a step come ask and let someone here get you > through that step. If you don't understand how to do a step, come back > and ask here about that step and let someone walk you through it. > > Then - when done - let everyone here know if it worked for you - or if > you have more issues. > > -- > Shenan Stanley > MS-MVP > -- > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > . > |
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