update page won't load unless using secure site

http://update.microsoft.com/microsof....aspx?ln=en-us

will not load ....if I enter...

https://update.microsoft.com/microso....aspx?ln=en-us

Everything is fine. This started about a week ago...xp sp2 and sp3. Ideas?
--
dang

Also...automatic updates works fine...just can't get to
http://update.microsoft.com to install optional updates.
--
dang


"dang" wrote:

> http://update.microsoft.com/microsof....aspx?ln=en-us
>
> will not load ....if I enter...
>
> https://update.microsoft.com/microso....aspx?ln=en-us
>
> Everything is fine. This started about a week ago...xp sp2 and sp3. Ideas?
> --
> dang

You might have a DNS.Changer infection. If so, all networked computers and
the router are infected. If you don't clean up all computers and reset or
reinstall the router before connecting any of the computers to the network
or internet, the infection will return.

Unexplained computer behavior may be caused by deceptive software
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827315

Run a /thorough/ check for hijackware, including posting your hijackthis log
to an appropriate forum.

Checking for/Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware

When all else fails, HijackThis v2.0.2
(http://aumha.org/downloads/hijackthis.exe) is the preferred tool to use (in
conjunction with some other utilities). HijackThis will NOT fix anything on
its own, but it will help you to both identify and remove any
hijackware/spyware with assistance from an expert. **Post your log to
http://spywarehammer.com/simplemachi...php?board=10.0,
http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22,
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, or another appropriate forum for review
by an expert in such matters, not here.**

If the procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting this
isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad) computer repair shop.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

dang wrote:
> Also...automatic updates works fine...just can't get to
> http://update.microsoft.com to install optional updates.
>
>> http://update.microsoft.com/microsof....aspx?ln=en-us
>>
>> will not load ....if I enter...
>>
>> https://update.microsoft.com/microso....aspx?ln=en-us
>>
>> Everything is fine. This started about a week ago...xp sp2 and sp3.
>> Ideas?

I have this exact same problem. I've installed a clean copy of the OS and
the update page (though it loads) never fires off the ActiveX script.

Our IT department finally got my machine to work by putting several entries
into the Trusted Sites options, but I shouldn't have to do this to all my
machines.

I've run Hijackthis on my machines and do not see anything out of the
ordinary (before and after I hook up my machine to the network). If this is
a DNS.Changer infection, what sort of information can I use to prove to our
IT department there is a problem with their infrastucture? They keep telling
me to use the workaround which amounts to a run-around. This all worked just
last week. In fact, the same machine works on my DSL connection at home.

-T-

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> You might have a DNS.Changer infection. If so, all networked computers and
> the router are infected. If you don't clean up all computers and reset or
> reinstall the router before connecting any of the computers to the network
> or internet, the infection will return.
>
> Unexplained computer behavior may be caused by deceptive software
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827315
>
> Run a /thorough/ check for hijackware, including posting your hijackthis log
> to an appropriate forum.
>
> Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware
>
> When all else fails, HijackThis v2.0.2
> (http://aumha.org/downloads/hijackthis.exe) is the preferred tool to use (in
> conjunction with some other utilities). HijackThis will NOT fix anything on
> its own, but it will help you to both identify and remove any
> hijackware/spyware with assistance from an expert. **Post your log to
> http://spywarehammer.com/simplemachi...php?board=10.0,
> http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22,
> http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, or another appropriate forum for review
> by an expert in such matters, not here.**
>
> If the procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting this
> isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
> independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad) computer repair shop.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> dang wrote:
> > Also...automatic updates works fine...just can't get to
> > http://update.microsoft.com to install optional updates.
> >
> >> http://update.microsoft.com/microsof....aspx?ln=en-us
> >>
> >> will not load ....if I enter...
> >>
> >> https://update.microsoft.com/microso....aspx?ln=en-us
> >>
> >> Everything is fine. This started about a week ago...xp sp2 and sp3.
> >> Ideas?
>
>

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1) when
posting to this newsgroup.

Terry . wrote:
> I have this exact same problem. I've installed a clean copy of the OS and
> the update page (though it loads) never fires off the ActiveX script.
>
> Our IT department finally got my machine to work by putting several
> entries
> into the Trusted Sites options, but I shouldn't have to do this to all my
> machines.
>
> I've run Hijackthis on my machines and do not see anything out of the
> ordinary (before and after I hook up my machine to the network). If this
> is
> a DNS.Changer infection, what sort of information can I use to prove to
> our
> IT department there is a problem with their infrastucture? They keep
> telling me to use the workaround which amounts to a run-around. This all
> worked just last week. In fact, the same machine works on my DSL
> connection at home.
>
> -T-
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> You might have a DNS.Changer infection. If so, all networked computers
>> and
>> the router are infected. If you don't clean up all computers and reset
>> or
>> reinstall the router before connecting any of the computers to the
>> network
>> or internet, the infection will return.
>>
>> Unexplained computer behavior may be caused by deceptive software
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827315
>>
>> Run a /thorough/ check for hijackware, including posting your hijackthis
>> log to an appropriate forum.
>>
>> Checking for/Help with Hijackware
>> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
>> http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
>> http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction
>> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
>> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
>> http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware
>>
>> When all else fails, HijackThis v2.0.2
>> (http://aumha.org/downloads/hijackthis.exe) is the preferred tool to use
>> (in conjunction with some other utilities). HijackThis will NOT fix
>> anything on its own, but it will help you to both identify and remove any
>> hijackware/spyware with assistance from an expert. **Post your log to
>> http://spywarehammer.com/simplemachi...php?board=10.0,
>> http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22,
>> http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, or another appropriate forum for
>> review by an expert in such matters, not here.**
>>
>> If the procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting
>> this isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
>> independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad) computer repair
>> shop.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> dang wrote:
>>> Also...automatic updates works fine...just can't get to
>>> http://update.microsoft.com to install optional updates.
>>>
>>>> http://update.microsoft.com/microsof....aspx?ln=en-us
>>>>
>>>> will not load ....if I enter...
>>>>
>>>> https://update.microsoft.com/microso....aspx?ln=en-us
>>>>
>>>> Everything is fine. This started about a week ago...xp sp2 and sp3.
>>>> Ideas?