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PA Bear [MS MVP]
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> ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing
> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8... Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you installed it before you installed SP3? About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3 http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...and-xpsp3.aspx stevespeed wrote: > -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows XP > Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8 > but > got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story > short > I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I > un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was. Now I > want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it seems to > think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to run this > computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista cannot > see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes this but > when > I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more > recent > version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista machine > just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought about > fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to > get > rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole Microsoft > network that I still have these things that I once installed but no longer > have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be very grateful to have > your advice. regards, Steve - |
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-- ss "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > > ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing > > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not > > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8... > > Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you > installed it before you installed SP3? > > About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3 > http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...and-xpsp3.aspx > > > stevespeed wrote: > > -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows XP > > Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing > > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not > > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8 > > but > > got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story > > short > > I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I > > un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was. Now I > > want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it seems to > > think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to run this > > computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista cannot > > see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes this but > > when > > I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more > > recent > > version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista machine > > just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought about > > fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to > > get > > rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole Microsoft > > network that I still have these things that I once installed but no longer > > have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be very grateful to have > > your advice. regards, Steve - > > |
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stevespeed
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Posting again because most of my last reply got lost in the ether! Maybe
some time and money should be put into updating these discussion pages? Hi PA Bear, I will try to be concise in my answers as I notice from your posts elsewhere that you can be a grumpy old bear sometimes. (sore head?) Unfortunately I have to start off by admitting I cannot remember how I got back to IE7 (ducks below parapet). It was a while ago, I'm just a citizen. When it all went wrong I was all over the internet discussions, forums, blogs etc. I spent about 3 days on it and eventually managed to un-install SP3 (can't remember if that was hard or how) then un-installed IE8. I remember it was not possible to un-install IE8 from add/remove, it was listed but the option just wasn't available, (is there a un-install IE8 file in IE8 that you can access directly?) I am sorry, I don't know. When I got back to IE7 I had lost the IE and Outlook Express icons from the task bar, (still missing), add-on toolbars didn't function (but did after un-install/re-install) and I'd lost my DVD drive! (Maybe that's a separate issue, I've changed the drive and now can play, and read from but not write too! Sorry about the digression) I have since re-installed and un-installed IE8 without problem. Now that I have tried it without add-ons getting in the way of installing I would like to use it but want to install XP SP3 first this time but, as I stated before, Windows update won't even offer it to me. I see from another post (listed just above this one "SP3 annoying") that Shenan Stanley has given very detailed instructions as to how one can install SP3 on a pre-cleaned and prepared machine. Can I follow those instructions and will I be able to download/install the SP3 package despite Update thinking I already have it. (I have searched my machine and as far as I can tell, I do not have SP3 on it now, though I know I did choose to install it from the "critical" updates offered and I did have the "baked in" problem that others have described. Is there a definitive way I can establish that it is not lying dormant in my system somewhere?) I await your reply with some trepidation but also hope, regards, -- stevespeed "stevespeed" wrote: > > -- > ss > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > > > > ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing > > > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not > > > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8... > > > > Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you > > installed it before you installed SP3? > > > > About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...and-xpsp3.aspx > > > > > > stevespeed wrote: > > > -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows XP > > > Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing > > > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not > > > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8 > > > but > > > got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story > > > short > > > I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I > > > un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was. Now I > > > want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it seems to > > > think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to run this > > > computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista cannot > > > see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes this but > > > when > > > I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more > > > recent > > > version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista machine > > > just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought about > > > fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to > > > get > > > rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole Microsoft > > > network that I still have these things that I once installed but no longer > > > have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be very grateful to have > > > your advice. regards, Steve - > > > > |
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Somewhere in your turgid* prose I think you're asking me how to install SP3
and get the computer fully-patched before reinstalling IE8. HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP2 fully patched http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66ae41add7dd2b TIP: You can probably skip Step #4. TIP: If you have NOT uninstalled IE8, do so before installing SP3. My personal recommendations for installing IE8: => Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! => http://www.microsoft.com/windows/int...ide-sites.aspx NB: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it. When you're prepared to install IE8, double-click on the saved file. => Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live) and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8. => Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before installing or uninstalling IE8. => I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and any anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's) before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. => Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8, then check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security updates offered. If a Root Certificates update is listed in the Optional Updates category, install it to take full advantage of IE's enhanced security. => For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus application version, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), and your third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 before you decide install it. ================ * http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/turgid stevespeed wrote: > Posting again because most of my last reply got lost in the ether! Maybe > some time and money should be put into updating these discussion pages? > > Hi PA Bear, > > I will try to be concise in my answers as I notice from your posts > elsewhere > that you can be a grumpy old bear sometimes. (sore head?) > > Unfortunately I have to start off by admitting I cannot remember how I got > back to IE7 (ducks below parapet). It was a while ago, I'm just a > citizen. > When it all went wrong I was all over the internet discussions, forums, > blogs etc. I spent about 3 days on it and eventually managed to > un-install > SP3 (can't remember if that was hard or how) then un-installed IE8. I > remember it was not possible to un-install IE8 from add/remove, it was > listed but the option just wasn't available, (is there a un-install IE8 > file in IE8 that you can access directly?) I am sorry, I don't know. When > I got back to IE7 I had lost the IE and Outlook Express icons from the > task > bar, (still missing), add-on toolbars didn't function (but did after > un-install/re-install) and I'd lost my DVD drive! (Maybe that's a separate > issue, I've changed the drive and now can play, and read from but not > write > too! Sorry about the digression) I have since re-installed and > un-installed IE8 without problem. Now that I have tried it without > add-ons > getting in the way of installing I would like to use it but want to > install > XP SP3 first this time but, as I stated before, Windows update won't even > offer it to me. > > I see from another post (listed just above this one "SP3 annoying") that > Shenan Stanley has given very detailed instructions as to how one can > install SP3 on a pre-cleaned and prepared machine. Can I follow those > instructions and will I be able to download/install the SP3 package > despite > Update thinking I already have it. (I have searched my machine and as far > as I can tell, I do not have SP3 on it now, though I know I did choose to > install it from the "critical" updates offered and I did have the "baked > in" problem that others have described. Is there a definitive way I can > establish that it is not lying dormant in my system somewhere?) > > I await your reply with some trepidation but also hope, regards, > >> >> -- >> ss >> >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: >> >>>> ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing >>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to >>>> not >>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed >>>> IE8... >>> >>> Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you >>> installed it before you installed SP3? >>> >>> About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...and-xpsp3.aspx >>> >>> >>> stevespeed wrote: >>>> -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows >>>> XP >>>> Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 >>>> thing >>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to >>>> not >>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8 >>>> but >>>> got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story >>>> short >>>> I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I >>>> un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was. >>>> Now >>>> I want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it >>>> seems to think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to >>>> run >>>> this computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista >>>> cannot see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes >>>> this but when >>>> I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more >>>> recent >>>> version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista >>>> machine >>>> just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought >>>> about >>>> fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to >>>> get >>>> rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole >>>> Microsoft network that I still have these things that I once installed >>>> but no longer have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be very >>>> grateful to have your advice. regards, Steve - |
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Thanks for your help PA Bear, I can tell you're a lovely person really,
despite what evryone says. "Turgid" I was thinking more "mellifluous" myself, regards, -- stevespeed "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > Somewhere in your turgid* prose I think you're asking me how to install SP3 > and get the computer fully-patched before reinstalling IE8. > > HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP2 fully patched > http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66ae41add7dd2b > > TIP: You can probably skip Step #4. > > TIP: If you have NOT uninstalled IE8, do so before installing SP3. > > My personal recommendations for installing IE8: > > => Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! => > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/int...ide-sites.aspx > > NB: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it. When you're prepared > to install IE8, double-click on the saved file. > > => Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live) > and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8. > > => Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before > installing or uninstalling IE8. > > => I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and any > anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's) > before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a > third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the > Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. > > => Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8, then check-in at > Windows Update and install any critical security updates offered. If a Root > Certificates update is listed in the Optional Updates category, install it > to take full advantage of IE's enhanced security. > > => For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus > application version, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), > and your third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 before you > decide install it. > > > ================ > * http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/turgid > > > stevespeed wrote: > > Posting again because most of my last reply got lost in the ether! Maybe > > some time and money should be put into updating these discussion pages? > > > > Hi PA Bear, > > > > I will try to be concise in my answers as I notice from your posts > > elsewhere > > that you can be a grumpy old bear sometimes. (sore head?) > > > > Unfortunately I have to start off by admitting I cannot remember how I got > > back to IE7 (ducks below parapet). It was a while ago, I'm just a > > citizen. > > When it all went wrong I was all over the internet discussions, forums, > > blogs etc. I spent about 3 days on it and eventually managed to > > un-install > > SP3 (can't remember if that was hard or how) then un-installed IE8. I > > remember it was not possible to un-install IE8 from add/remove, it was > > listed but the option just wasn't available, (is there a un-install IE8 > > file in IE8 that you can access directly?) I am sorry, I don't know. When > > I got back to IE7 I had lost the IE and Outlook Express icons from the > > task > > bar, (still missing), add-on toolbars didn't function (but did after > > un-install/re-install) and I'd lost my DVD drive! (Maybe that's a separate > > issue, I've changed the drive and now can play, and read from but not > > write > > too! Sorry about the digression) I have since re-installed and > > un-installed IE8 without problem. Now that I have tried it without > > add-ons > > getting in the way of installing I would like to use it but want to > > install > > XP SP3 first this time but, as I stated before, Windows update won't even > > offer it to me. > > > > I see from another post (listed just above this one "SP3 annoying") that > > Shenan Stanley has given very detailed instructions as to how one can > > install SP3 on a pre-cleaned and prepared machine. Can I follow those > > instructions and will I be able to download/install the SP3 package > > despite > > Update thinking I already have it. (I have searched my machine and as far > > as I can tell, I do not have SP3 on it now, though I know I did choose to > > install it from the "critical" updates offered and I did have the "baked > > in" problem that others have described. Is there a definitive way I can > > establish that it is not lying dormant in my system somewhere?) > > > > I await your reply with some trepidation but also hope, regards, > > > >> > >> -- > >> ss > >> > >> > >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > >> > >>>> ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing > >>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to > >>>> not > >>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed > >>>> IE8... > >>> > >>> Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you > >>> installed it before you installed SP3? > >>> > >>> About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3 > >>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...and-xpsp3.aspx > >>> > >>> > >>> stevespeed wrote: > >>>> -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows > >>>> XP > >>>> Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 > >>>> thing > >>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to > >>>> not > >>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8 > >>>> but > >>>> got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story > >>>> short > >>>> I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I > >>>> un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was. > >>>> Now > >>>> I want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it > >>>> seems to think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to > >>>> run > >>>> this computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista > >>>> cannot see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes > >>>> this but when > >>>> I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more > >>>> recent > >>>> version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista > >>>> machine > >>>> just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought > >>>> about > >>>> fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to > >>>> get > >>>> rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole > >>>> Microsoft network that I still have these things that I once installed > >>>> but no longer have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be very > >>>> grateful to have your advice. regards, Steve - > > |
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YW. I'm glad that my reputation precedes me. You may rise now.
-- ~PAÞ "I don't care what is written about me so long as it isn't true." (Dorothy Parker) stevespeed wrote: > Thanks for your help PA Bear, I can tell you're a lovely person really, > despite what evryone says. "Turgid" I was thinking more "mellifluous" > myself, regards, > > PA Bear wrote: >> Somewhere in your turgid prose I think you're asking me how to install >> SP3 >> and get the computer fully-patched before reinstalling IE8. >> >> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP2 fully patched >> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66ae41add7dd2b >> >> TIP: You can probably skip Step #4. >> >> TIP: If you have NOT uninstalled IE8, do so before installing SP3. >> >> My personal recommendations for installing IE8: >> >> => Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! => >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/int...ide-sites.aspx >> >> NB: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it. When you're >> prepared to install IE8, double-click on the saved file. >> >> => Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live) >> and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8. >> >> => Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) >> before >> installing or uninstalling IE8. >> >> => I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and >> any >> anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's) >> before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a >> third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling >> the >> Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. >> >> => Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8, then check-in at >> Windows Update and install any critical security updates offered. If a >> Root Certificates update is listed in the Optional Updates category, >> install it to take full advantage of IE's enhanced security. >> >> => For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus >> application version, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), >> and your third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 before you >> decide install it. >> >> stevespeed wrote: >>> Posting again because most of my last reply got lost in the ether! >>> Maybe >>> some time and money should be put into updating these discussion pages? >>> >>> Hi PA Bear, >>> >>> I will try to be concise in my answers as I notice from your posts >>> elsewhere >>> that you can be a grumpy old bear sometimes. (sore head?) >>> >>> Unfortunately I have to start off by admitting I cannot remember how I >>> got >>> back to IE7 (ducks below parapet). It was a while ago, I'm just a >>> citizen. >>> When it all went wrong I was all over the internet discussions, forums, >>> blogs etc. I spent about 3 days on it and eventually managed to >>> un-install >>> SP3 (can't remember if that was hard or how) then un-installed IE8. I >>> remember it was not possible to un-install IE8 from add/remove, it was >>> listed but the option just wasn't available, (is there a un-install IE8 >>> file in IE8 that you can access directly?) I am sorry, I don't know. >>> When >>> I got back to IE7 I had lost the IE and Outlook Express icons from the >>> task >>> bar, (still missing), add-on toolbars didn't function (but did after >>> un-install/re-install) and I'd lost my DVD drive! (Maybe that's a >>> separate >>> issue, I've changed the drive and now can play, and read from but not >>> write >>> too! Sorry about the digression) I have since re-installed and >>> un-installed IE8 without problem. Now that I have tried it without >>> add-ons >>> getting in the way of installing I would like to use it but want to >>> install >>> XP SP3 first this time but, as I stated before, Windows update won't >>> even >>> offer it to me. >>> >>> I see from another post (listed just above this one "SP3 annoying") that >>> Shenan Stanley has given very detailed instructions as to how one can >>> install SP3 on a pre-cleaned and prepared machine. Can I follow those >>> instructions and will I be able to download/install the SP3 package >>> despite >>> Update thinking I already have it. (I have searched my machine and as >>> far >>> as I can tell, I do not have SP3 on it now, though I know I did choose >>> to >>> install it from the "critical" updates offered and I did have the "baked >>> in" problem that others have described. Is there a definitive way I can >>> establish that it is not lying dormant in my system somewhere?) >>> >>> I await your reply with some trepidation but also hope, regards, >>> >>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: >>>> >>>>>> ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing >>>>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to >>>>>> not >>>>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed >>>>>> IE8... >>>>> >>>>> Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you >>>>> installed it before you installed SP3? >>>>> >>>>> About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...and-xpsp3.aspx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> stevespeed wrote: >>>>>> -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with >>>>>> Windows >>>>>> XP >>>>>> Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 >>>>>> thing >>>>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to >>>>>> not >>>>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed >>>>>> IE8 >>>>>> but >>>>>> got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story >>>>>> short >>>>>> I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I >>>>>> un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was. >>>>>> Now >>>>>> I want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it >>>>>> seems to think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to >>>>>> run >>>>>> this computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running >>>>>> Vista >>>>>> cannot see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes >>>>>> this but when >>>>>> I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more >>>>>> recent >>>>>> version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista >>>>>> machine >>>>>> just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought >>>>>> about >>>>>> fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have >>>>>> to >>>>>> get >>>>>> rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole >>>>>> Microsoft network that I still have these things that I once >>>>>> installed >>>>>> but no longer have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be >>>>>> very >>>>>> grateful to have your advice. regards, Steve - |
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