Update says that I need updates I already have

Yesterday I ran WU from the start menu. It did that I needed to update the
controls. I did that and did the required restart. When I ran WU again it
said that I needed 18 Critical updates. All 18 were already in the
add/remove programs list and in the Windows folder. these are all old
updates. Now Automatic Updates is telling me that I need these updates
everytime I boot. Should I reinstall all these updates or is there another
fix?

How to troubleshoot Windows Update or Microsoft Update when you are
repeatedly offered an update:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=910339

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

KLINK wrote:
> Yesterday I ran WU from the start menu. It did that I needed to update the
> controls. I did that and did the required restart. When I ran WU again it
> said that I needed 18 Critical updates. All 18 were already in the
> add/remove programs list and in the Windows folder. these are all old
> updates. Now Automatic Updates is telling me that I need these updates
> everytime I boot. Should I reinstall all these updates or is there another
> fix?

a powerful KB.

additional suggestions, rename C:\WINDOWS\system32\CatRoot2 folder

"PA Bear" wrote:

> How to troubleshoot Windows Update or Microsoft Update when you are
> repeatedly offered an update:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=910339
>
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
>
> KLINK wrote:
> > Yesterday I ran WU from the start menu. It did that I needed to update the
> > controls. I did that and did the required restart. When I ran WU again it
> > said that I needed 18 Critical updates. All 18 were already in the
> > add/remove programs list and in the Windows folder. these are all old
> > updates. Now Automatic Updates is telling me that I need these updates
> > everytime I boot. Should I reinstall all these updates or is there another
> > fix?
>
>

"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:...
> How to troubleshoot Windows Update or Microsoft Update when you are
> repeatedly offered an update:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=910339
>
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Thanks for the link.

When I checked update history, the only things listed were:


Windows XP Microsoft Windows Installer 3.1 Tuesday, February 07, 2006
Windows Update
Windows XP Update for Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) 2.0 and
WinHTTP 5.1 (KB842773) Tuesday, February 07, 2006 Windows Update

I then downloaded and installed those 18 Critical Updates. I rebooted and
went back and WU said that I need 15 more CUs. I installed those and then WU
said that I needed KB823353. I installed that and rebooted and it still said
that I needed it even though it was listed twice in update history. I have
hidden it at WU and have AU set to ignore it.

Do you know what could have wiped out my update history?


> KLINK wrote:
> > Yesterday I ran WU from the start menu. It did that I needed to update
the
> > controls. I did that and did the required restart. When I ran WU again
it
> > said that I needed 18 Critical updates. All 18 were already in the
> > add/remove programs list and in the Windows folder. these are all old
> > updates. Now Automatic Updates is telling me that I need these updates
> > everytime I boot. Should I reinstall all these updates or is there
another
> > fix?
>

"Haqiu" <> wrote in message
news:60542DB4-0BF6-4E65-A1B9-...
> a powerful KB.
>
> additional suggestions, rename C:\WINDOWS\system32\CatRoot2 folder
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
> > How to troubleshoot Windows Update or Microsoft Update when you are
> > repeatedly offered an update:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=910339
> >
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
> >
> > KLINK wrote:
> > > Yesterday I ran WU from the start menu. It did that I needed to update
the
> > > controls. I did that and did the required restart. When I ran WU again
it
> > > said that I needed 18 Critical updates. All 18 were already in the
> > > add/remove programs list and in the Windows folder. these are all old
> > > updates. Now Automatic Updates is telling me that I need these updates
> > > everytime I boot. Should I reinstall all these updates or is there
another
> > > fix?
> >
> >

Thanks for the suggestion.

> WU said that I needed KB823353. I installed that and rebooted and it
> still said that I needed it even though it was listed twice in update
> history.

Windows version?

Outlook Express: Help > About > Files: What versions of MSOE.DLL and
INETCOMM.DLL are displayed here?
--
~PA Bear


KLINK wrote:
> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > How to troubleshoot Windows Update or Microsoft Update when you are
> > repeatedly offered an update:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=910339
> >
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
>
> Thanks for the link.
>
> When I checked update history, the only things listed were:
>
>
> Windows XP Microsoft Windows Installer 3.1 Tuesday, February 07, 2006
> Windows Update
> Windows XP Update for Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) 2.0
> and WinHTTP 5.1 (KB842773) Tuesday, February 07, 2006 Windows Update
>
> I then downloaded and installed those 18 Critical Updates. I rebooted and
> went back and WU said that I need 15 more CUs. I installed those and then
> WU said that I needed KB823353. I installed that and rebooted and it
> still said that I needed it even though it was listed twice in update
> history. I have hidden it at WU and have AU set to ignore it.
>
> Do you know what could have wiped out my update history?
>
>
> > KLINK wrote:
> > > Yesterday I ran WU from the start menu. It did that I needed to
> > > update the controls. I did that and did the required restart. When I
> > > ran WU again it said that I needed 18 Critical updates. All 18 were
> > > already in the add/remove programs list and in the Windows folder.
> > > these are all old updates. Now Automatic Updates is telling me that I
> > > need these updates everytime I boot. Should I reinstall all these
> > > updates or is there another fix?

"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> > WU said that I needed KB823353. I installed that and rebooted and it
> > still said that I needed it even though it was listed twice in update
> > history.
>
> Windows version?
>
> Outlook Express: Help > About > Files: What versions of MSOE.DLL and
> INETCOMM.DLL are displayed here?
> --
> ~PA Bear

Windows version: XP Home SP1

MSOE.DLL 6.00.2800.1506

INETCOMM.DLL 6.00.2800.1506

KLINK wrote:
> > > WU said that I needed KB823353. I installed that and rebooted and it
> > > still said that I needed it even though it was listed twice in update
> > > history.
> >
> > Windows version?
> >
> > Outlook Express: Help > About > Files: What versions of MSOE.DLL and
> > INETCOMM.DLL are displayed here?
> > --
> Windows version: XP Home SP1
>
> MSOE.DLL 6.00.2800.1506
>
> INETCOMM.DLL 6.00.2800.1506

See this KB article:

A dialog box with no text appears if you reply to a news message in Outlook
Express 6 Service Pack 1 (You may ignore the title)
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=555398

Also see this post of mine in a recent newsgroup discussion:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...7f3b0ed2?hl=en

For reasons yet to be determined or resolved (apparently), Windows Update
offers OE updates in the wrong order to Win2K and WinXP SP1 users. Here's
the fix:

1. Uninstall 'Windows XP Hotfix - KB897715' via Add/Remove Programs and
reboot. (If you don't find any reference whatsoever to 897715 in Add/Remove
Programs, post back.)

2a. Assuming MSOE.DLL is now v6.00.2800.1409 or earlier (i.e.,
v6.00.2800.1123 or v6.00.2800.1106), install (KB)823353 manually using the
file downloaded from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

2b. Optional: Reboot and install KB887797 via
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...6-a1a3da675baf

3. Reboot and (re)install (KB)897715 manually using the file downloaded from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...d-28502b3d2518

4. Now check in at Windows Update and install WinXP SP2 & reboot.

5. Return to Windows Update and install any other critical or recommended
updates offered.

In the not-too-distant future, you will have to have SP2 installed to get
/any/ security updates.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:...
> KLINK wrote:
> > > > WU said that I needed KB823353. I installed that and rebooted and it
> > > > still said that I needed it even though it was listed twice in
update
> > > > history.
> > >
> > > Windows version?
> > >
> > > Outlook Express: Help > About > Files: What versions of MSOE.DLL and
> > > INETCOMM.DLL are displayed here?
> > > --
> > Windows version: XP Home SP1
> >
> > MSOE.DLL 6.00.2800.1506
> >
> > INETCOMM.DLL 6.00.2800.1506
>
> See this KB article:
>
> A dialog box with no text appears if you reply to a news message in
Outlook
> Express 6 Service Pack 1 (You may ignore the title)
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=555398
>
> Also see this post of mine in a recent newsgroup discussion:
>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...7f3b0ed2?hl=en
>
> For reasons yet to be determined or resolved (apparently), Windows Update
> offers OE updates in the wrong order to Win2K and WinXP SP1 users. Here's
> the fix:
>
> 1. Uninstall 'Windows XP Hotfix - KB897715' via Add/Remove Programs and
> reboot. (If you don't find any reference whatsoever to 897715 in
Add/Remove
> Programs, post back.)
>
> 2a. Assuming MSOE.DLL is now v6.00.2800.1409 or earlier (i.e.,
> v6.00.2800.1123 or v6.00.2800.1106), install (KB)823353 manually using the
> file downloaded from
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> 2b. Optional: Reboot and install KB887797 via
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...6-a1a3da675baf
>
> 3. Reboot and (re)install (KB)897715 manually using the file downloaded
from
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...d-28502b3d2518
>
> 4. Now check in at Windows Update and install WinXP SP2 & reboot.
>
> 5. Return to Windows Update and install any other critical or recommended
> updates offered.
>
> In the not-too-distant future, you will have to have SP2 installed to get
> /any/ security updates.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org


Thanks! That fixed my problem.

KLINK wrote:
> > > > > WU said that I needed KB823353. I installed that and rebooted and
> > > > > it still said that I needed it even though it was listed twice in
> > > > > update history.
> > > >
> > > > Windows version?
> > > >
> > > > Outlook Express: Help > About > Files: What versions of MSOE.DLL and
> > > > INETCOMM.DLL are displayed here?
> > > > --
> > > Windows version: XP Home SP1
> > >
> > > MSOE.DLL 6.00.2800.1506
> > >
> > > INETCOMM.DLL 6.00.2800.1506
> >
> > See this KB article:
> >
> > A dialog box with no text appears if you reply to a news message in
> > Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 (You may ignore the title)
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=555398
> >
> > Also see this post of mine in a recent newsgroup discussion:
> >
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...7f3b0ed2?hl=en
> >
> > For reasons yet to be determined or resolved (apparently), Windows
> > Update offers OE updates in the wrong order to Win2K and WinXP SP1
> > users. Here's the fix:
> >
> > 1. Uninstall 'Windows XP Hotfix - KB897715' via Add/Remove Programs and
> > reboot. (If you don't find any reference whatsoever to 897715 in
> > Add/Remove Programs, post back.)
> >
> > 2a. Assuming MSOE.DLL is now v6.00.2800.1409 or earlier (i.e.,
> > v6.00.2800.1123 or v6.00.2800.1106), install (KB)823353 manually using
> > the file downloaded from
> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> >
> > 2b. Optional: Reboot and install KB887797 via
> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...6-a1a3da675baf
> >
> > 3. Reboot and (re)install (KB)897715 manually using the file downloaded
> > from
> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...d-28502b3d2518
> >
> > 4. Now check in at Windows Update and install WinXP SP2 & reboot.
> >
> > 5. Return to Windows Update and install any other critical or
> > recommended updates offered.
> >
> Thanks! That fixed my problem.

YW & thanks very much for posting back.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org