Update settings overriden, again

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=830

Come on Microsoft tell us why you keep overriding our settings!

Rob

Can you/Have you reproduced?

cf.
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...web-posts.aspx
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MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
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Rob Harmer wrote:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=830
>
> Come on Microsoft tell us why you keep overriding our settings!
>
> Rob

OK lets wait and see what they discover. Maybe they have had someone
piggyback on the UA cycle and trashed some machines. Given the amount of
attack vector stuff being worked on at present it wouldn't be surprising.

Microsoft needs to start telling each user exactly what they are installing
at each update cycle BEFORE the cycle starts, machine by machine. They can
do this as they know what they are applying based on the GUID and manifest
details they are capture and store for each PC.

Rob

"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Can you/Have you reproduced?
>
> cf.
> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...web-posts.aspx
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
>
>
> Rob Harmer wrote:
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=830
>>
>> Come on Microsoft tell us why you keep overriding our settings!
>>
>> Rob
>

They do. In the heads up Thursday email. Furthermore start/run
windowsupdate.log and the entire log of what happens on your machine is
right there.

It's also up to the end user to understand the settings they have
chosen. Every time I patch I choose MU, custom install and I LOOK at
what is being installed and I've not seen anything I've not expected.

BTW not overridden here.

Believe me .. I'd be on a plane to Seattle ready to throttle a few
folks...but right now I've not see the windowsupdate.log files of any
alledged "changee" to confirm their claims. "Show me the log".

I do know that I see a lot of folks that have onecare or some other
software that DO change things. Sometimes some"thing" else changes a
setting.

Rob Harmer wrote:
> OK lets wait and see what they discover. Maybe they have had someone
> piggyback on the UA cycle and trashed some machines. Given the amount
> of attack vector stuff being worked on at present it wouldn't be
> surprising.
>
> Microsoft needs to start telling each user exactly what they are
> installing at each update cycle BEFORE the cycle starts, machine by
> machine. They can do this as they know what they are applying based on
> the GUID and manifest details they are capture and store for each PC.
>
> Rob
>
> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Can you/Have you reproduced?
>>
>> cf.
>> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...web-posts.aspx
>>
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
>>
>>
>> Rob Harmer wrote:
>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=830
>>>
>>> Come on Microsoft tell us why you keep overriding our settings!
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>

I agree, that the log files tell you afterwards but the issue for some of
the folks seems to have been that they had MU set and its still overrode, so
we need to wait and see.

I am sure the MS update team would be examining any log files sent in as a
means to determine what's been going on.

The "heads up advisory" doesn't always tell all you need to know from past
experience. It's the potential for "something else changing the setting" we
need to understand better if that's what's causing the problems.

Rob

"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <>
wrote in message news:%23K$...
> They do. In the heads up Thursday email. Furthermore start/run
> windowsupdate.log and the entire log of what happens on your machine is
> right there.
>
> It's also up to the end user to understand the settings they have chosen.
> Every time I patch I choose MU, custom install and I LOOK at what is being
> installed and I've not seen anything I've not expected.
>
> BTW not overridden here.
>
> Believe me .. I'd be on a plane to Seattle ready to throttle a few
> folks...but right now I've not see the windowsupdate.log files of any
> alledged "changee" to confirm their claims. "Show me the log".
>
> I do know that I see a lot of folks that have onecare or some other
> software that DO change things. Sometimes some"thing" else changes a
> setting.
>
> Rob Harmer wrote:
>> OK lets wait and see what they discover. Maybe they have had someone
>> piggyback on the UA cycle and trashed some machines. Given the amount of
>> attack vector stuff being worked on at present it wouldn't be surprising.
>>
>> Microsoft needs to start telling each user exactly what they are
>> installing at each update cycle BEFORE the cycle starts, machine by
>> machine. They can do this as they know what they are applying based on
>> the GUID and manifest details they are capture and store for each PC.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Can you/Have you reproduced?
>>>
>>> cf.
>>> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...web-posts.aspx
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob Harmer wrote:
>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=830
>>>>
>>>> Come on Microsoft tell us why you keep overriding our settings!
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>
>>

"Rob Harmer" <> schrieb:

> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=830

http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...web-posts.aspx

Next try, please.

Bye,
Freudi