Update: Unable to save HTML file

For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file" posted
9/17/2009 12:31PM.
Thanks to all who provided constructive information regarding this problem,
+Bob+ in particular.

Comments:
(1) A reset of IE did not fix the problem.
(2) A system restore to the day before installing QuickTime did fix the
problem. This doesn't prove that QuickTime is at fault, of course, but I
still have my suspicions. I will probably reload QuickTime shortly, and if
the problem returns, I'll post it.

Note: It appears that the system restore reversed the IE reset, so for
anyone (like me) who might be nervous about doing the reset, the restore is
a safety backup.

Thanks,
crb

On 9/21/09, the entity C. Roy Blye wrote this:
> For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file" posted
> 9/17/2009 12:31PM.

Of course, the best way to provide background is to add to the original
thread...

<SNIP>

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

I thought it would be cleaner and easier to find this way. Maybe I was
wrong.

"Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
news:%233yHP%...
> On 9/21/09, the entity C. Roy Blye wrote this:
>> For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file" posted
>> 9/17/2009 12:31PM.
>
> Of course, the best way to provide background is to add to the original
> thread...
>
> <SNIP>
>
> --
> Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
>
>

On 9/21/09, the entity C. Roy Blye wrote this:
> I thought it would be cleaner and easier to find this way. Maybe I was wrong.

It's more a question of continuity.

Note that you said in the first post of this new thread:

"For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file"
posted 9/17/2009 12:31PM".

Had you appended it to the original thread, it would have been there...

And I might even have read it :-)


> "Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
> news:%233yHP%...
>> On 9/21/09, the entity C. Roy Blye wrote this:
>>> For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file" posted
>>> 9/17/2009 12:31PM.
>>
>> Of course, the best way to provide background is to add to the original
>> thread...
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>> -- Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
>>
>>

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:17:03 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
<> wrote:

> I thought it would be cleaner and easier to find this way. Maybe I was
> wrong.


Yes, I'm afraid you're wrong and Gene Bloch is correct. Let me also
add the following to what Gene says: be sure to quote enough of the
previous messages in the thread for us all to understand what you are
talking about. Like most of us here, I don't want to go looking for
another thread and even in the same thread, I don't save already-read
messages. So without a quote, most messages turn out to be
unintelligible.



> "Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
> news:%233yHP%...
> > On 9/21/09, the entity C. Roy Blye wrote this:
> >> For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file" posted
> >> 9/17/2009 12:31PM.
> >
> > Of course, the best way to provide background is to add to the original
> > thread...
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > --
> > Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
> >
> >

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:17:03 -0400, C. Roy Blye wrote:

> I thought it would be cleaner and easier to find this way. Maybe I was
> wrong.

No, you were right. The other thread was way down the list and getting
rather crowded anyway - this is better.


>
> "Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
> news:%233yHP%...
>> On 9/21/09, the entity C. Roy Blye wrote this:
>>> For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file"
>>> posted 9/17/2009 12:31PM.
>>
>> Of course, the best way to provide background is to add to the original
>> thread...
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>> --
>> Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
>>
>>

I'm wondering if you may be using a more sophisticated viewer for this forum
than I am. My Outlook Express simply lists messages in descending
chronological order (newest at top) and, as far as I know, doesn't have the
ability to find new attachments to old messages or delete already-read
messages. The list currently goes back about 16 days; if my update had been
to a message, say, 14 days old, would you have even found it? With my
viewer, I very likely would not have looked back that far, and thus missed
it entirely. This was my working assumption when starting a new message for
the "Update."

What viewer are you using?

"Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
news...
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:17:03 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
> <> wrote:
>
>> I thought it would be cleaner and easier to find this way. Maybe I was
>> wrong.
>
>
> Yes, I'm afraid you're wrong and Gene Bloch is correct. Let me also
> add the following to what Gene says: be sure to quote enough of the
> previous messages in the thread for us all to understand what you are
> talking about. Like most of us here, I don't want to go looking for
> another thread and even in the same thread, I don't save already-read
> messages. So without a quote, most messages turn out to be
> unintelligible.
>
>
>
>> "Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
>> news:%233yHP%...
>> > On 9/21/09, the entity C. Roy Blye wrote this:
>> >> For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file"
>> >> posted
>> >> 9/17/2009 12:31PM.
>> >
>> > Of course, the best way to provide background is to add to the original
>> > thread...
>> >
>> > <SNIP>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
>> >
>> >
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:29:55 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
<> wrote:

> I'm wondering if you may be using a more sophisticated viewer for this forum


First of all, note that it's a newsgroup, not a forum. Second, you
read newsgroups with newsreaders, not viewers. I use Forte Agent 5.0
as my newsreader. You can tell what newsreader someone is using by
looking at the header of any of his messages (forgive my if I'm wrong,
but if I recall correctly, in Outlook Express, you can look at it with
Ctrl-F3).


> than I am. My Outlook Express simply lists messages in descending
> chronological order (newest at top)


No, it lists them in whatever order you want them in. To change the
order. click the header of the column you want to sort by. Click that
header a second time to change from ascending to descending order, or
vice-versa.

Also note that it's almost always best to set Outlook Express (or any
newsreader) to show messages by thread.


> and, as far as I know, doesn't have the
> ability to find new attachments to old messages


Attachments? Do you mean messages added to the thread? Yes it does. As
I said above, turn in the "by thread" feature. (sorry, I don't have
Outlook Express handy here, and can't remember exactly how to do that.
I'm sure someone else can tell you).


> or delete already-read messages.


Outlook Express can certainly do that. I did it with Outlook Express
and I do it with Agent. I don't want to see already-read messages and
turning off viewing them is a good idea.


> The list currently goes back about 16 days;


How far back it goes depends on how you have Outlook Express set and
how long the news server you use keeps the messages.


> if my update had been
> to a message, say, 14 days old, would you have even found it?


I would have seen your reply, but not the original. Again, I have
viewing of already-read messages turned off. If it were turned on, it
would take me at least twice as long to go through the newsgroups I
participate in.


> With my
> viewer, I very likely would not have looked back that far, and thus missed
> it entirely. This was my working assumption when starting a new message for
> the "Update."
>
> What viewer are you using?


As I said above, I use Forte Agent 5.0 as my newsreader. Although I
like it a lot, everybody does things differently and Outlook Express
(which I used to use) may be just as good or even better for *you*.
But I strongly recommend that you do some serious research into how to
use it.



>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
> news...
> > On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:17:03 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
> > <> wrote:
> >
> >> I thought it would be cleaner and easier to find this way. Maybe I was
> >> wrong.
> >
> >
> > Yes, I'm afraid you're wrong and Gene Bloch is correct. Let me also
> > add the following to what Gene says: be sure to quote enough of the
> > previous messages in the thread for us all to understand what you are
> > talking about. Like most of us here, I don't want to go looking for
> > another thread and even in the same thread, I don't save already-read
> > messages. So without a quote, most messages turn out to be
> > unintelligible.
> >
> >
> >
> >> "Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
> >> news:%233yHP%...
> >> > On 9/21/09, the entity C. Roy Blye wrote this:
> >> >> For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file"
> >> >> posted
> >> >> 9/17/2009 12:31PM.
> >> >
> >> > Of course, the best way to provide background is to add to the original
> >> > thread...
> >> >
> >> > <SNIP>
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Thanks, Ken, for the lesson in newsgroup terminology. Thanks also for the
tips in getting around more efficiently with my reader. (See, I'm already
talking "right".)

As you can tell, I'm not a regular user of the newsgroup. I only come here
when I can't figure something out myself, and need help from people more
knowledgeable than I am. Fortunately, that's not too often, but I must say
I'm very appreciative of the people who are here to help when I need it.

I will definitely make it a point to get to know my newsreader better!


"Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:29:55 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
> <> wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering if you may be using a more sophisticated viewer for this
>> forum
>
>
> First of all, note that it's a newsgroup, not a forum. Second, you
> read newsgroups with newsreaders, not viewers. I use Forte Agent 5.0
> as my newsreader. You can tell what newsreader someone is using by
> looking at the header of any of his messages (forgive my if I'm wrong,
> but if I recall correctly, in Outlook Express, you can look at it with
> Ctrl-F3).
>
>
>> than I am. My Outlook Express simply lists messages in descending
>> chronological order (newest at top)
>
>
> No, it lists them in whatever order you want them in. To change the
> order. click the header of the column you want to sort by. Click that
> header a second time to change from ascending to descending order, or
> vice-versa.
>
> Also note that it's almost always best to set Outlook Express (or any
> newsreader) to show messages by thread.
>
>
>> and, as far as I know, doesn't have the
>> ability to find new attachments to old messages
>
>
> Attachments? Do you mean messages added to the thread? Yes it does. As
> I said above, turn in the "by thread" feature. (sorry, I don't have
> Outlook Express handy here, and can't remember exactly how to do that.
> I'm sure someone else can tell you).
>
>
>> or delete already-read messages.
>
>
> Outlook Express can certainly do that. I did it with Outlook Express
> and I do it with Agent. I don't want to see already-read messages and
> turning off viewing them is a good idea.
>
>
>> The list currently goes back about 16 days;
>
>
> How far back it goes depends on how you have Outlook Express set and
> how long the news server you use keeps the messages.
>
>
>> if my update had been
>> to a message, say, 14 days old, would you have even found it?
>
>
> I would have seen your reply, but not the original. Again, I have
> viewing of already-read messages turned off. If it were turned on, it
> would take me at least twice as long to go through the newsgroups I
> participate in.
>
>
>> With my
>> viewer, I very likely would not have looked back that far, and thus
>> missed
>> it entirely. This was my working assumption when starting a new message
>> for
>> the "Update."
>>
>> What viewer are you using?
>
>
> As I said above, I use Forte Agent 5.0 as my newsreader. Although I
> like it a lot, everybody does things differently and Outlook Express
> (which I used to use) may be just as good or even better for *you*.
> But I strongly recommend that you do some serious research into how to
> use it.
>
>
>
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
>> news...
>> > On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:17:03 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
>> > <> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I thought it would be cleaner and easier to find this way. Maybe I was
>> >> wrong.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes, I'm afraid you're wrong and Gene Bloch is correct. Let me also
>> > add the following to what Gene says: be sure to quote enough of the
>> > previous messages in the thread for us all to understand what you are
>> > talking about. Like most of us here, I don't want to go looking for
>> > another thread and even in the same thread, I don't save already-read
>> > messages. So without a quote, most messages turn out to be
>> > unintelligible.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> "Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:%233yHP%...
>> >> > On 9/21/09, the entity C. Roy Blye wrote this:
>> >> >> For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file"
>> >> >> posted
>> >> >> 9/17/2009 12:31PM.
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course, the best way to provide background is to add to the
>> >> > original
>> >> > thread...
>> >> >
>> >> > <SNIP>
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:52:19 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
<> wrote:

> Thanks, Ken, for the lesson in newsgroup terminology. Thanks also for the
> tips in getting around more efficiently with my reader.


You're welcome. Glad to help.



> (See, I'm already talking "right".)


And glad to see that. Talking "right" is not so important for its own
sake, but you always run the risk of being misunderstood if you don't.


>
> As you can tell, I'm not a regular user of the newsgroup. I only come here
> when I can't figure something out myself, and need help from people more
> knowledgeable than I am. Fortunately, that's not too often,



And glad to hear that too.



> but I must say
> I'm very appreciative of the people who are here to help when I need it.


Yes, although there are a few trolls and ignorant people who give out
erroneous information, there are lots of very good and very helpful
folks here.


> I will definitely make it a point to get to know my newsreader better!


Good, and if you need help with it, ask away (although your questions
would be more likely to get the answers you need in an Outlook Express
newsgroup than here in a Windows XP one).


> "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:29:55 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
> > <> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm wondering if you may be using a more sophisticated viewer for this
> >> forum
> >
> >
> > First of all, note that it's a newsgroup, not a forum. Second, you
> > read newsgroups with newsreaders, not viewers. I use Forte Agent 5.0
> > as my newsreader. You can tell what newsreader someone is using by
> > looking at the header of any of his messages (forgive my if I'm wrong,
> > but if I recall correctly, in Outlook Express, you can look at it with
> > Ctrl-F3).
> >
> >
> >> than I am. My Outlook Express simply lists messages in descending
> >> chronological order (newest at top)
> >
> >
> > No, it lists them in whatever order you want them in. To change the
> > order. click the header of the column you want to sort by. Click that
> > header a second time to change from ascending to descending order, or
> > vice-versa.
> >
> > Also note that it's almost always best to set Outlook Express (or any
> > newsreader) to show messages by thread.
> >
> >
> >> and, as far as I know, doesn't have the
> >> ability to find new attachments to old messages
> >
> >
> > Attachments? Do you mean messages added to the thread? Yes it does. As
> > I said above, turn in the "by thread" feature. (sorry, I don't have
> > Outlook Express handy here, and can't remember exactly how to do that.
> > I'm sure someone else can tell you).
> >
> >
> >> or delete already-read messages.
> >
> >
> > Outlook Express can certainly do that. I did it with Outlook Express
> > and I do it with Agent. I don't want to see already-read messages and
> > turning off viewing them is a good idea.
> >
> >
> >> The list currently goes back about 16 days;
> >
> >
> > How far back it goes depends on how you have Outlook Express set and
> > how long the news server you use keeps the messages.
> >
> >
> >> if my update had been
> >> to a message, say, 14 days old, would you have even found it?
> >
> >
> > I would have seen your reply, but not the original. Again, I have
> > viewing of already-read messages turned off. If it were turned on, it
> > would take me at least twice as long to go through the newsgroups I
> > participate in.
> >
> >
> >> With my
> >> viewer, I very likely would not have looked back that far, and thus
> >> missed
> >> it entirely. This was my working assumption when starting a new message
> >> for
> >> the "Update."
> >>
> >> What viewer are you using?
> >
> >
> > As I said above, I use Forte Agent 5.0 as my newsreader. Although I
> > like it a lot, everybody does things differently and Outlook Express
> > (which I used to use) may be just as good or even better for *you*.
> > But I strongly recommend that you do some serious research into how to
> > use it.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
> >> news...
> >> > On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:17:03 -0400, "C. Roy Blye"
> >> > <> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I thought it would be cleaner and easier to find this way. Maybe I was
> >> >> wrong.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I'm afraid you're wrong and Gene Bloch is correct. Let me also
> >> > add the following to what Gene says: be sure to quote enough of the
> >> > previous messages in the thread for us all to understand what you are
> >> > talking about. Like most of us here, I don't want to go looking for
> >> > another thread and even in the same thread, I don't save already-read
> >> > messages. So without a quote, most messages turn out to be
> >> > unintelligible.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> "Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
> >> >> news:%233yHP%...
> >> >> > On 9/21/09, the entity C. Roy Blye wrote this:
> >> >> >> For background on this post, please see "Unable to save HTML file"
> >> >> >> posted
> >> >> >> 9/17/2009 12:31PM.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Of course, the best way to provide background is to add to the
> >> >> > original
> >> >> > thread...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > <SNIP>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup