Updates already installed still show in Windows Update

I have Vista Ultimate. I installed 2 updates manually, apart from Windows
Update: Security Update for Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 (KB925674), and
Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1. However, they both still show up in
Windows Update as needing to be installed. Shouldn't Windows Update be able
to determine that these updates are already installed, regardless of how they
are installed (through Windows Update or manually)? How do I let Windows
Update know they are already installed? These files are large, so I don't
want to let Windows Update try to download and install them again.

Did you ever get an answer for this? I let the Visual Studio 2005 SP1 update
for Vista install from Windows update, but it still keeps coming down and
reinstalling. The update says it was installed successfully, but it keeps
coming up anyway.

Let me know if you found a solution as it might help my issue.

"Richard" wrote:

> I have Vista Ultimate. I installed 2 updates manually, apart from Windows
> Update: Security Update for Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 (KB925674), and
> Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1. However, they both still show up in
> Windows Update as needing to be installed. Shouldn't Windows Update be able
> to determine that these updates are already installed, regardless of how they
> are installed (through Windows Update or manually)? How do I let Windows
> Update know they are already installed? These files are large, so I don't
> want to let Windows Update try to download and install them again.
>

You're the only one who has responded to my post, John. I have not found a
solution, and I've reinstalled the SP1 a couple of times. Sometimes it
doesn't show up in Windows Update for a few weeks, and then reappears.

Thank you,
Richard

"John Bailey" wrote:

> Did you ever get an answer for this? I let the Visual Studio 2005 SP1 update
> for Vista install from Windows update, but it still keeps coming down and
> reinstalling. The update says it was installed successfully, but it keeps
> coming up anyway.
>
> Let me know if you found a solution as it might help my issue.
>
> "Richard" wrote:
>
> > I have Vista Ultimate. I installed 2 updates manually, apart from Windows
> > Update: Security Update for Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 (KB925674), and
> > Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1. However, they both still show up in
> > Windows Update as needing to be installed. Shouldn't Windows Update be able
> > to determine that these updates are already installed, regardless of how they
> > are installed (through Windows Update or manually)? How do I let Windows
> > Update know they are already installed? These files are large, so I don't
> > want to let Windows Update try to download and install them again.
> >

If you have access to the managed newsgroups, try searching in the
vsnet.setup newsgroup. You will find the post I'm copying below. This
doesn't help me with the Vista Update, but it should work for the service
pack. I'm posting the whole thread so you will want to go down a little to
his solution. It looks like all they did was manually set the key Windows
Update uses to determine if its installed.


Alastair:

Strangley, even after I applied SP1 running the batch file, SP1 was still in
my Windows Update list and it used to hang! Worse yet, since I have auto
install turned on, when I tried to shut down the machine, I had the option,
"Install updates and shutdown". When I chose the option, it was still
updating my machine after 24 hours! And, it warned me not to turn off the
machine myself!

But, I had to. After I restarted, I added the registry entry myself, did
"net stop" and then started Windows Update.

This time it went through successfully and no longer do I get SP1 in the
Windows Update list.

BTW, my About VS 2005 says

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005
Version 8.0.50727.762 (SP.050727-7600)
Microsoft .NET Framework
Version 2.0.50727

Installed Edition: Enterprise Architect

Microsoft Visual Basic 2005 77637-163-9000005-41837
Microsoft Visual Basic 2005

Microsoft Visual C# 2005 77637-163-9000005-41837
Microsoft Visual C# 2005

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for Applications 77637-163-9000005-41837
Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for Applications

Microsoft Visual Studio Tools for Office 77637-163-9000005-41837
Microsoft Visual Studio Tools for the Microsoft Office System

Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2005 77637-163-9000005-41837
Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2005

Microsoft Web Application Projects 2005 77637-163-9000005-41837
Microsoft Web Application Projects 2005
Version 8.0.50727.762

Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition for Architects 77637-163-9000005-41837
Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition for Software Architects

Crystal Reports AAC60-G0CSA4B-V7000AY
Crystal Reports for Visual Studio 2005


Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition for Software Architects - ENU
Service Pack 1 (KB926601)
This service pack is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition for
Software Architects - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this service pack will be
uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926601

PVCS Version Manager 8.1.3
Serena Software PVCS Version Manager

SQL Server Analysis Services
Microsoft SQL Server Analysis Services Designer
Version 9.00.2047.00

SQL Server Integration Services
Microsoft SQL Server Integration Services Designer
Version 9.00.2047.00

SQL Server Reporting Services
Microsoft SQL Server Reporting Services Designers
Version 9.00.2047.00

So, clearly, SP1 has been installed. I did not check this right after the
first attempt.

Hope this helps.

Venki

"Alastair" wrote:

> That's really helpful - thanks!
>
> I followed the instructions and got no error messages... but how do I know
> that SP1 was actually applied? I see that my VS2005 version number is
> 8.0.50727.42, can any of you guys pleae confirm that this is the patched
> version?
>
>
> Alastair
>
> "vvenk" wrote:
>
> > Guys:
> >
> > Thanks to this gentleman from Microsoft, I was able to apply SP1.
> > Download SP1 to your computer and run the a batch file with the following
> > lines:
> >
> > rem It is recommended you leave a domain and reboot before running this script
> >
> > rem Backup the registry key before changing it to save the current values
> > reg export HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\Cod eIdentifiers
> > "%TMP%\safer.reg" /y
> >
> > rem Set the new value and stop Windows Installer, which will automatically
> > restart when the patch gets installed
> > reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\Cod eIdentifiers /v
> > PolicyScope /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
> > net stop msiserver
> >
> > rem Replace the name of the patch below according to which patch you
> > downloaded
> > rem This exmple silently installs the patch with verbose logging enabled
> > start /wait VS80sp1-KB926601-X86-ENU.exe /L*v+
> > "%TMP%\VS80sp1-KB926601-X86-ENU.log" /quiet
> >
> > rem Delete the new value and restore previous registry values for SAFER
> > reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\Cod eIdentifiers /v
> > PolicyScope /f
> > reg import "%TMP%\safer.reg"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Venkat, please read
> > http://blogs.msdn.com/heaths/archive...ce-pack-1.aspx
> > for a list of known issues with SP1. From your description, you’re seeing
> > error 1718 (may manifest in a couple of different ways) with a workaround
> > documented at
> > http://blogs.msdn.com/heaths/archive...rror-1718.aspx.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please try that (leaving the domain is only recommended, but not required)
> > and see if that works. While you’re about to install the patch, please run it
> > from the command prompt and pass /L*vx+ patch.log so that if 1718 isn’t the
> > cause, we can find out what is. If the patch still fails, please ZIP that log
> > file and send it to me.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also keep in mind that the install may appear to run more than once. This is
> > because the patch targets multiple product, or pieces of what you installed
> > as part of Visual Studio. Please do not cancel the install at any time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Heath Stewart
> > Technical Lead
> > Deployment Technologies Group, Microsoft
> > http://blogs.msdn.com/heaths
> >
> >
> > "Alastair" wrote:
> >
> > > I have exactly the same problem. Visa 64-bit, VS2005, and the SP1 will not
> > > install - same message as abakshi has.
> > >
> > > Please can someone advise?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "abakshi" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nope, nothing yet...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "vvenk" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > were you able to resolve this issue? I also have a similar issue but I am
> > > > > running Windows 2003 Server.
> > > > >
> > > > > "abakshi" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm running Win Vista Ultimate x64 and installed VS2005, then ran MS Update,
> > > > > > which found a security patch for VS and installed it. I then went and
> > > > > > downloaded SP1 for Vista, tried to installed it, and it gave this error (says
> > > > > > "Windows Installer" at top):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The upgrade patch cannot be installed by the Windows Installer because the
> > > > > > program to be upgrade may be missing, or the upgrade patch may update a
> > > > > > different version of the program. Verify that the program to be upgraded
> > > > > > exists on your computer and that you have the correct upgrade patch."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried restarting, to no effect. Any ideas?
Was this






"Richard" wrote:

> You're the only one who has responded to my post, John. I have not found a
> solution, and I've reinstalled the SP1 a couple of times. Sometimes it
> doesn't show up in Windows Update for a few weeks, and then reappears.
>
> Thank you,
> Richard
>
> "John Bailey" wrote:
>
> > Did you ever get an answer for this? I let the Visual Studio 2005 SP1 update
> > for Vista install from Windows update, but it still keeps coming down and
> > reinstalling. The update says it was installed successfully, but it keeps
> > coming up anyway.
> >
> > Let me know if you found a solution as it might help my issue.
> >
> > "Richard" wrote:
> >
> > > I have Vista Ultimate. I installed 2 updates manually, apart from Windows
> > > Update: Security Update for Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 (KB925674), and
> > > Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1. However, they both still show up in
> > > Windows Update as needing to be installed. Shouldn't Windows Update be able
> > > to determine that these updates are already installed, regardless of how they
> > > are installed (through Windows Update or manually)? How do I let Windows
> > > Update know they are already installed? These files are large, so I don't
> > > want to let Windows Update try to download and install them again.
> > >

I am also having problems with this. Windows Update installed the Visual
Studio 2005 SP 1 update for Vista and everything was fine for two days. Then
all of a sudden it's showing back up in Window Update. So I installed it
once again but Windows Update keeps telling me to install it. I'm not
getting any errors at all, it says it installed fine. I haven't found a
solution to this yet. Have you?

"John Bailey" wrote:

> Did you ever get an answer for this? I let the Visual Studio 2005 SP1 update
> for Vista install from Windows update, but it still keeps coming down and
> reinstalling. The update says it was installed successfully, but it keeps
> coming up anyway.
>
> Let me know if you found a solution as it might help my issue.
>
> "Richard" wrote:
>
> > I have Vista Ultimate. I installed 2 updates manually, apart from Windows
> > Update: Security Update for Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 (KB925674), and
> > Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1. However, they both still show up in
> > Windows Update as needing to be installed. Shouldn't Windows Update be able
> > to determine that these updates are already installed, regardless of how they
> > are installed (through Windows Update or manually)? How do I let Windows
> > Update know they are already installed? These files are large, so I don't
> > want to let Windows Update try to download and install them again.
> >

On Aug 9, 7:08 pm, David Hamilton <David
Hamil...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>I'm not getting any errors at all, it says it installed fine. I haven't found a
> solution to this yet. Have you?

anyone find a solution? it's been in my windows update for three
weeks now.

EVERYTIME I log in, it tells me windows updates are waiting. It
installs the patch just fine, wants to reboot, and if I DO reboot, it
says "Windows updates are available" ... guess what? It's the same
one that just installed.

Quite aggravating.

How to troubleshoot Windows Update or Microsoft Update when you are repeatedly offered an
update
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=910339

Verify The Installation Of Windows XP Hotfixes

From Microsoft - Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec...2/default.mspx

Remove WU downloads from the temporary folder:-

Stop the Automatic Updates service

Click Start, Choose Run.
In the Run box, type services.msc.
Click OK.
Right-click the Automatic Updates service.
Click Stop.
Stopping the service will take a moment.

Delete the contents of the Download folder
Click Start. Choose Run.
In the Run box, type %windir%\SoftwareDistribution
Click OK.
Open the Download folder.
Delete all contents of the Download folder.
Close the window.

Start the Automatic Updates service
Click Start. Choose Run.
In the Run box, type services.msc.
Click OK.
Right-click the Automatic Updates service.
Click Start.
Starting the service will take a moment.

By deleting the contents of the Download folder - you have removed any downloaded updates.

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<> wrote in message
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| On Aug 9, 7:08 pm, David Hamilton <David
| Hamil...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| >I'm not getting any errors at all, it says it installed fine. I haven't found a
| > solution to this yet. Have you?
|
| anyone find a solution? it's been in my windows update for three
| weeks now.
|
| EVERYTIME I log in, it tells me windows updates are waiting. It
| installs the patch just fine, wants to reboot, and if I DO reboot, it
| says "Windows updates are available" ... guess what? It's the same
| one that just installed.
|
| Quite aggravating.
|
|
|

hrm, tried deleting to no avail.

here's the sequence:
1) update available (visual studio 2005 SP 1 update for vista)
2) let it install as per windows update's schedule
3) was still there the next day, so I hit 'install' within WU
4) still failed, so I downloaded the patch and installed it myself
5) despite being properly installed, it wont go away, even after
downloading

perhaps I should hit up a visual studio group? it's the only update
that's giving me troubles

Read what others had to say -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...xp=&sloc=en-us

or: http://tinyurl.com/2lrjav

Comments about needed another update, enough disk space etc.

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<> wrote in message
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| hrm, tried deleting to no avail.
|
| here's the sequence:
| 1) update available (visual studio 2005 SP 1 update for vista)
| 2) let it install as per windows update's schedule
| 3) was still there the next day, so I hit 'install' within WU
| 4) still failed, so I downloaded the patch and installed it myself
| 5) despite being properly installed, it wont go away, even after
| downloading
|
| perhaps I should hit up a visual studio group? it's the only update
| that's giving me troubles
|
|

i found a fix for your issues kinda werid but it works.
if you have to manually install updates and they still come up on you update list here is all you do

do to windows update check mark to install them. ya i know you already did manually but just do it . install them this way it will take 2 seconds it will say installed and go off your list.
i was having a issue with certian updates failing so i manually updated them . then went to windows update through start . and checked mark the ones i manually updated and told it to install them .