Updates installed automatically when they shouldn't be

Twice now in the past couple of months I have had updates installed
automatically even though I have it set to "Download updates but let me
choose whether to install them". When this happens it seems to do some sort
of weird/incomplete reboot, and the sound quits working (Vista says no sound
device is installed) until I reboot the computer again.

Also when this occured yesterday the setting got changed to "Install updates
automatically". We do not have any group policy or anything that would change
this.

Does anyone know what is going on? Are certain critical updates being forced
upon us by Microsoft?

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista x64 SP2) when
posting to this newsgroup.

Reference:

Microsoft Update Product Team Blog: Update Notifications and
Install-at-Shutdown Behavior:
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...-shutdown.aspx

Did you encounter this behavior after 14 Apr-09 and then again after 09
Jun-09?


Are you certain that the "Notify Only" option (vs. the "Download but notify"
option) hadn't been selected and you'd already approved some/all updates for
download?


When you went to turn off the computer, was there a "Install updates and
turn off computer/Turn off without installing updates" line directly below
the Standby/Turn Off/Restart buttons?

Examine your WindowsUpdate.log and tell us which updates installed this way.

How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093

> Also when this occured yesterday the setting got changed to "Install
> updates
> automatically"...

MS tells us that this only happens under a very few circumstances: Had you
(1) installed One Care or (2) Microsoft Security Essentials beta or (3)
changed your default update source from Windows Update to Microsoft Update
or vice versa?

<QP>
What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?

While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live...
</QP>
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pdate/FAQ.mspx

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Todd Walker wrote:
> Twice now in the past couple of months I have had updates installed
> automatically even though I have it set to "Download updates but let me
> choose whether to install them". When this happens it seems to do some
> sort
> of weird/incomplete reboot, and the sound quits working (Vista says no
> sound
> device is installed) until I reboot the computer again.
>
> Also when this occured yesterday the setting got changed to "Install
> updates
> automatically". We do not have any group policy or anything that would
> change this.
>
> Does anyone know what is going on? Are certain critical updates being
> forced
> upon us by Microsoft?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista x64 SP2) when
> posting to this newsgroup.
>
> Reference:
>
> Microsoft Update Product Team Blog: Update Notifications and
> Install-at-Shutdown Behavior:
> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...-shutdown.aspx
>
> Did you encounter this behavior after 14 Apr-09 and then again after 09
> Jun-09?
>
>
> Are you certain that the "Notify Only" option (vs. the "Download but notify"
> option) hadn't been selected and you'd already approved some/all updates for
> download?
>
>
> When you went to turn off the computer, was there a "Install updates and
> turn off computer/Turn off without installing updates" line directly below
> the Standby/Turn Off/Restart buttons?
>
> Examine your WindowsUpdate.log and tell us which updates installed this way.
>
> How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093
>
> > Also when this occured yesterday the setting got changed to "Install
> > updates
> > automatically"...
>
> MS tells us that this only happens under a very few circumstances: Had you
> (1) installed One Care or (2) Microsoft Security Essentials beta or (3)
> changed your default update source from Windows Update to Microsoft Update
> or vice versa?
>
> <QP>
> What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?
>
> While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
> Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
> other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live...
> </QP>
> Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pdate/FAQ.mspx
>
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
> Todd Walker wrote:
> > Twice now in the past couple of months I have had updates installed
> > automatically even though I have it set to "Download updates but let me
> > choose whether to install them". When this happens it seems to do some
> > sort
> > of weird/incomplete reboot, and the sound quits working (Vista says no
> > sound
> > device is installed) until I reboot the computer again.
> >
> > Also when this occured yesterday the setting got changed to "Install
> > updates
> > automatically". We do not have any group policy or anything that would
> > change this.
> >
> > Does anyone know what is going on? Are certain critical updates being
> > forced
> > upon us by Microsoft?
>
>

Thanks for the info.

I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate (x32) with Service Pack 1 on a Dell
Inspiron 9400 laptop.

After looking at the log I see now that automatic updates woke-up the
machine at 3AM and installed the latest round of updates for this week. I
didn't know it could do this, which is bad since my laptop was stowed in my
backpack at the time. :-( Shouldn't this feature be disabled on laptops by
default?

So automatic updates must have been set to install automatically, though I'm
not sure how that got set that way. The last time this problem occured though
a couple of months ago, I'm sure I checked the automatic updates settings and
it was still set to download only.

In any case when updates completed it attempted to reboot but failed with
error 0x8007045B. Here is the details on that from the log:

2009-07-16 03:11:04:876 1224 d90 AU Setting AU scheduled install time to
2009-07-17 07:00:00
2009-07-16 03:13:24:591 1224 129c AU AU invoking RebootSystem (OnRebootNow)
2009-07-16 03:13:25:156 1224 129c Misc WARNING: SUS Client is rebooting
system.
2009-07-16 03:13:25:156 1224 129c AU AU invoking RebootSystem (OnRebootRetry)
2009-07-16 03:13:25:221 1224 129c AU AU received handle event
2009-07-16 03:13:35:181 1224 129c AU AU invoking RebootSystem (OnRebootRetry)
2009-07-16 03:13:35:181 1224 129c Misc WARNING: SUS Client is rebooting
system.
2009-07-16 03:13:40:204 1224 129c AU Launched new AU client for directive
'Reboot Warning', session id = 0x1
2009-07-16 03:13:40:266 1224 129c AU AU received handle event
2009-07-16 03:13:45:180 1224 129c AU AU invoking RebootSystem (OnRebootRetry)
2009-07-16 03:13:45:180 1224 129c Misc WARNING: SUS Client is rebooting
system.
2009-07-16 03:13:55:195 1224 129c AU AU invoking RebootSystem (OnRebootRetry)
2009-07-16 03:13:55:195 1224 129c Misc WARNING: SUS Client is rebooting
system.
2009-07-16 03:13:55:227 1224 129c AU Launched new AU client for directive
'Reboot Warning', session id = 0x1
2009-07-16 03:13:55:258 1224 129c AU AU received handle event
2009-07-16 03:14:05:195 1224 129c AU AU invoking RebootSystem (OnRebootRetry)
2009-07-16 03:14:05:195 1224 129c Misc WARNING: SUS Client is rebooting
system.
2009-07-16 03:14:09:142 1224 129c AU WARNING: Initiating reboot since no
user logged on
2009-07-16 03:14:09:142 1224 129c AU AU invoking RebootSystem (OnRebootNow)
2009-07-16 03:14:09:142 1224 129c Misc WARNING: Failed to reboot system,
hr=8007045B.
2009-07-16 03:14:09:142 1224 129c AU WARNING: RebootSystem
(InitiateSystemShutdown) failed, error = 0x8007045B
2009-07-16 03:14:10:265 1224 129c AU WARNING: Initiating reboot since no
user logged on
2009-07-16 03:14:10:265 1224 129c AU AU invoking RebootSystem (OnRebootNow)
2009-07-16 03:14:10:265 1224 129c Misc WARNING: Failed to reboot system,
hr=8007045B.
2009-07-16 03:14:10:265 1224 129c AU WARNING: RebootSystem
(InitiateSystemShutdown) failed, error = 0x8007045B
2009-07-16 03:14:10:265 1224 129c AU AU rebooting machine since no user is
logged on and reboot is required.
2009-07-16 03:14:11:248 1224 129c Shutdwn user declined update at shutdown
2009-07-16 03:14:11:248 1224 129c AU AU initiates service shutdown
2009-07-16 03:14:11:248 1224 129c AU ########### AU: Uninitializing
Automatic Updates ###########
2009-07-16 03:14:12:496 1224 129c Service *********
2009-07-16 03:14:12:496 1224 129c Service ** END ** Service: Service exit
[Exit code = 0x240001]
2009-07-16 03:14:12:496 1224 129c Service *************

[To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you quote all of the
previous message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup. Thank you.]

Is this computer updating via WSUS (Windows Server Update Services)?

Have you tried logging-on as the Administrator and/or running Windows Update
manually via the Start menu?

Can you please answer all of the questions in my first reply?

<QP>
0x8007045B ERROR SHUTDOWN IN PROGRESS

I'd say the machine is trying to be reboot from a couple of places, or a
former reboot is still pending.

Looks like a good time to just pull the plug.
</QP>
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cbce6e5a823ea8
--
~PA Bear


Todd Walker wrote:
> Thanks for the info.
>
> I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate (x32) with Service Pack 1 on a Dell
> Inspiron 9400 laptop.
>
> After looking at the log I see now that automatic updates woke-up the
> machine at 3AM and installed the latest round of updates for this week. I
> didn't know it could do this, which is bad since my laptop was stowed in
> my
> backpack at the time. :-( Shouldn't this feature be disabled on laptops by
> default?
>
> So automatic updates must have been set to install automatically, though
> I'm
> not sure how that got set that way. The last time this problem occured
> though a couple of months ago, I'm sure I checked the automatic updates
> settings and it was still set to download only.
>
> In any case when updates completed it attempted to reboot but failed with
> error 0x8007045B. Here is the details on that from the log:
>
> 2009-07-16 03:11:04:876 1224 d90 AU Setting AU scheduled install time to
> 2009-07-17 07:00:00
> 2009-07-16 03:13:24:591 1224 129c AU AU invoking RebootSystem
> (OnRebootNow)
> 2009-07-16 03:13:25:156 1224 129c Misc WARNING: SUS Client is rebooting
> system.
<snip>
> 2009-07-16 03:14:10:265 1224 129c AU AU rebooting machine since no user is
> logged on and reboot is required.
> 2009-07-16 03:14:11:248 1224 129c Shutdwn user declined update at shutdown
<snip>
<paste>
> PA Bear wrote:
>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista x64 SP2)
>> when posting to this newsgroup.
>>
>> Reference:
>>
>> Microsoft Update Product Team Blog: Update Notifications and
>> Install-at-Shutdown Behavior:
>> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...-shutdown.aspx
>>
>> Did you encounter this behavior after 14 Apr-09 and then again after 09
>> Jun-09?
>>
>> Are you certain that the "Notify Only" option (vs. the "Download but
>> notify" option) hadn't been selected and you'd already approved some/all
>> updates for download?
>>
>> When you went to turn off the computer, was there a "Install updates and
>> turn off computer/Turn off without installing updates" line directly
>> below
>> the Standby/Turn Off/Restart buttons?
>>
>> Examine your WindowsUpdate.log and tell us which updates installed this
>> way.
>>
>> How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093
>>
>>> Also when this occured yesterday the setting got changed to "Install
>>> updates
>>> automatically"...
>>
>> MS tells us that this only happens under a very few circumstances: Had
>> you
>> (1) installed One Care or (2) Microsoft Security Essentials beta or (3)
>> changed your default update source from Windows Update to Microsoft
>> Update
>> or vice versa?
>>
>> <QP>
>> What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?
>>
>> While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
>> Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
>> other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live...
>> </QP>
>> Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pdate/FAQ.mspx
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>>
>> Todd Walker wrote:
>>> Twice now in the past couple of months I have had updates installed
>>> automatically even though I have it set to "Download updates but let me
>>> choose whether to install them". When this happens it seems to do some
>>> sort
>>> of weird/incomplete reboot, and the sound quits working (Vista says no
>>> sound
>>> device is installed) until I reboot the computer again.
>>>
>>> Also when this occured yesterday the setting got changed to "Install
>>> updates
>>> automatically". We do not have any group policy or anything that would
>>> change this.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what is going on? Are certain critical updates being
>>> forced
>>> upon us by Microsoft?