Upgrade or Full? I don't understand

Hello;

I saw this line of Ad. on a Microsoft Web page;

"Suggested retail price for full package product, $239.00 USD. Suggested
upgrade retail price, $159.00 USD."

What do they mean by "Full package" or "Upgrade"?

This is what I want to do when I install the Vista Home Premium;

1. I already check all I have to do with the softwares, drives, and hardwares.
2. I have all the softwares CD/DVD's
3. My PC it's good to go, (a lot of RAM, processors, HD space and graphic
card)
4. I know I have enough space on my HD to install Vista but I want to
install a brand new HD with more space a lot of more space, this still will
be an internal HD)
5. I want to install Vista directly from the DVD with no previous XP SP2
installed on the HD, as I told you the HD will be brand new and completly
clean.
6. Re-Install all my softwares (I have all the CD/DVD)
7. Download any upgrade necesary
8. Connect my printers, external HD and Scanners and do what I have to do.
9. Then I will install everything back from my previous backup (any folder
that I want; pictures, videos , documents....)

After all this brief explanation my question is; Do I need a Full Package
Vista Product or Upgrade? Remember I want to remove my current Internal-HD
install a new one and the Install Vista from scratch.

A full install package is meant for a computer that has no operating system
on it when you begin.

An upgrade install assumes that you have a valid qualifying operating system
already installed - and operational.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"H." <> wrote in message
news:F0596A6C-648C-433D-9E7B-...
> Hello;
>
> I saw this line of Ad. on a Microsoft Web page;
>
> "Suggested retail price for full package product, $239.00 USD. Suggested
> upgrade retail price, $159.00 USD."
>
> What do they mean by "Full package" or "Upgrade"?
>
> This is what I want to do when I install the Vista Home Premium;
>
> 1. I already check all I have to do with the softwares, drives, and
> hardwares.
> 2. I have all the softwares CD/DVD's
> 3. My PC it's good to go, (a lot of RAM, processors, HD space and graphic
> card)
> 4. I know I have enough space on my HD to install Vista but I want to
> install a brand new HD with more space a lot of more space, this still
> will
> be an internal HD)
> 5. I want to install Vista directly from the DVD with no previous XP SP2
> installed on the HD, as I told you the HD will be brand new and completly
> clean.
> 6. Re-Install all my softwares (I have all the CD/DVD)
> 7. Download any upgrade necesary
> 8. Connect my printers, external HD and Scanners and do what I have to do.
> 9. Then I will install everything back from my previous backup (any folder
> that I want; pictures, videos , documents....)
>
> After all this brief explanation my question is; Do I need a Full Package
> Vista Product or Upgrade? Remember I want to remove my current Internal-HD
> install a new one and the Install Vista from scratch.
>
>
>

Hello Richard and thanks so much for your answer to my thread.

So, this mean that I'll need a full version of Vista beacuse before I
install Vista I want to remove my existing Hard Drive (the one that have XP)
and Install a new one that does not have my current XP installed.

I'm correct?

If this is true them I'm assuming that an upgrade version of Vista its using
the same programs that you use in XP.


And once again thanks in advance.

"Richard Urban" wrote:

> A full install package is meant for a computer that has no operating system
> on it when you begin.
>
> An upgrade install assumes that you have a valid qualifying operating system
> already installed - and operational.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "H." <> wrote in message
> news:F0596A6C-648C-433D-9E7B-...
> > Hello;
> >
> > I saw this line of Ad. on a Microsoft Web page;
> >
> > "Suggested retail price for full package product, $239.00 USD. Suggested
> > upgrade retail price, $159.00 USD."
> >
> > What do they mean by "Full package" or "Upgrade"?
> >
> > This is what I want to do when I install the Vista Home Premium;
> >
> > 1. I already check all I have to do with the softwares, drives, and
> > hardwares.
> > 2. I have all the softwares CD/DVD's
> > 3. My PC it's good to go, (a lot of RAM, processors, HD space and graphic
> > card)
> > 4. I know I have enough space on my HD to install Vista but I want to
> > install a brand new HD with more space a lot of more space, this still
> > will
> > be an internal HD)
> > 5. I want to install Vista directly from the DVD with no previous XP SP2
> > installed on the HD, as I told you the HD will be brand new and completly
> > clean.
> > 6. Re-Install all my softwares (I have all the CD/DVD)
> > 7. Download any upgrade necesary
> > 8. Connect my printers, external HD and Scanners and do what I have to do.
> > 9. Then I will install everything back from my previous backup (any folder
> > that I want; pictures, videos , documents....)
> >
> > After all this brief explanation my question is; Do I need a Full Package
> > Vista Product or Upgrade? Remember I want to remove my current Internal-HD
> > install a new one and the Install Vista from scratch.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

"H." <> wrote in message
news:C5EF8109-D9B6-4F02-976E-...
> Hello Richard and thanks so much for your answer to my thread.
>
> So, this mean that I'll need a full version of Vista beacuse before I
> install Vista I want to remove my existing Hard Drive (the one that have
> XP)
> and Install a new one that does not have my current XP installed.
>
> I'm correct?
>


Until Richard answers, let me suggest this. If you still have the XP cds,
you could reinstall that on your new drive and then install Vista. I suggest
this only to save you the cost of buying the full version.
You can still do a clean install (recommended) from the Vista upgrade
version.

"H." <> wrote in message
news:C5EF8109-D9B6-4F02-976E-...
> Hello Richard and thanks so much for your answer to my thread.
>
> So, this mean that I'll need a full version of Vista beacuse before I
> install Vista I want to remove my existing Hard Drive (the one that have
> XP)
> and Install a new one that does not have my current XP installed.
>
> I'm correct?
>


Until Richard answers, let me suggest this. If you still have the XP cds,
you could reinstall that on your new drive and then install Vista. I suggest
this only to save you the cost of buying the full version.
You can still do a clean install (recommended) from the Vista upgrade
version.

With the upgrade install you install on top of an existing operating system.
The original operating system is then subsumed into the upgrade install and
can not be used anywhere else.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"H." <> wrote in message
news:C5EF8109-D9B6-4F02-976E-...
> Hello Richard and thanks so much for your answer to my thread.
>
> So, this mean that I'll need a full version of Vista beacuse before I
> install Vista I want to remove my existing Hard Drive (the one that have
> XP)
> and Install a new one that does not have my current XP installed.
>
> I'm correct?
>
> If this is true them I'm assuming that an upgrade version of Vista its
> using
> the same programs that you use in XP.
>
>
> And once again thanks in advance.
>
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>
>> A full install package is meant for a computer that has no operating
>> system
>> on it when you begin.
>>
>> An upgrade install assumes that you have a valid qualifying operating
>> system
>> already installed - and operational.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "H." <> wrote in message
>> news:F0596A6C-648C-433D-9E7B-...
>> > Hello;
>> >
>> > I saw this line of Ad. on a Microsoft Web page;
>> >
>> > "Suggested retail price for full package product, $239.00 USD.
>> > Suggested
>> > upgrade retail price, $159.00 USD."
>> >
>> > What do they mean by "Full package" or "Upgrade"?
>> >
>> > This is what I want to do when I install the Vista Home Premium;
>> >
>> > 1. I already check all I have to do with the softwares, drives, and
>> > hardwares.
>> > 2. I have all the softwares CD/DVD's
>> > 3. My PC it's good to go, (a lot of RAM, processors, HD space and
>> > graphic
>> > card)
>> > 4. I know I have enough space on my HD to install Vista but I want to
>> > install a brand new HD with more space a lot of more space, this still
>> > will
>> > be an internal HD)
>> > 5. I want to install Vista directly from the DVD with no previous XP
>> > SP2
>> > installed on the HD, as I told you the HD will be brand new and
>> > completly
>> > clean.
>> > 6. Re-Install all my softwares (I have all the CD/DVD)
>> > 7. Download any upgrade necesary
>> > 8. Connect my printers, external HD and Scanners and do what I have to
>> > do.
>> > 9. Then I will install everything back from my previous backup (any
>> > folder
>> > that I want; pictures, videos , documents....)
>> >
>> > After all this brief explanation my question is; Do I need a Full
>> > Package
>> > Vista Product or Upgrade? Remember I want to remove my current
>> > Internal-HD
>> > install a new one and the Install Vista from scratch.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

In article <C5EF8109-D9B6-4F02-976E->, H. wrote:

> this mean that I'll need a full version of Vista beacuse before I*
> install Vista I want to remove my existing Hard Drive (the one that have XP)*
> and Install a new one that does not have my current XP installed.*

True but there is a workaround if you want to try it:

How to Clean Install Windows Vista with Upgrade Media

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

The secret is that you must NOT enter the Product KEY when requested during the
first installation. If you do then the KEY is already in use and you can't
install again.

<< What you do is leave the Product Key field blank, deselect the option titled
"Automatically activate Windows when I'm online," and then click Next. Vista
Setup will ask you whether you would like to enter your Product Key before
continuing. Click No. >>

I've not done it myself but Paul is reliable. I don't think it is dishonest to
do this provided you do not continue to use XP since the end result is the
same.

But note that if you do do this you will have to reinstall (not copy over) your
applications that you use under XP and want to use under VISTA but you've said
you have got all the CDs etc (and any KEYs they need?) You may want to run
Belarc Advisor on your XP installation before doing anything to it and print
out the resulting report since it contains a lot of very useful information
including KEYs for some of the stuff you have installed.