us vs. them (two interesting questions)

Found these two interesting questions on a email list:

Has Microsoft failed or irrepairably damaged the internet in trying to
change the internet in its image *OR* has the revolt of Microsoft
begun (i.e. lackluster sales of Office 2007 and Windows Vista) ?

Is the EU's hefty fine aimed more at the USA than Microsoft or is it
linked to the EU's case for software patents ?


Woodzy
http://www.rtdos.com

proteanthread wrote:

> Found these two interesting questions on a email list:
>
> Has Microsoft failed or irrepairably damaged the internet in trying to
> change the internet in its image *OR* has the revolt of Microsoft
> begun (i.e. lackluster sales of Office 2007 and Windows Vista) ?

Its all Clippys Fault!!!
Every time it opens its mouth, you know it can only get worse.


> Is the EU's hefty fine aimed more at the USA than Microsoft or is it
> linked to the EU's case for software patents ?

Its because it was operating an illegal monopoly and refused
to change its ways. It doesn't even have full documentation
on CIFS (Samba) networking. It took them 300 engineers and
$3million fine per day to persuade Micoshaft to write the manuals.
Anyone running windopws networking in banks, hospitals, and governments
are truly fscked if networking fails because not even micoshaft
knows how it works any more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And any windummy claiming to know how windopws networking really works
is as close to being a LIAR as Micoshaft claims to having documentation
for it.

> Woodzy
> http://www.rtdos.com


Try out Linux starting with LiveCDs that boot from CD
instead of having to install like micoshaft products.

http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com

There are liveCD games CDs and DVDs as well packed
with the good stuff. Not to mention educational programs
like xmaxima (Knoppix LiveCD) that algebraically solves
equations!!! A must for maths and engineering students.

> And any windummy claiming to know how windopws networking really works
> is as close to being a LIAR as Micoshaft claims to having documentation
> for it.

Correct. Most software is developed without exact documentation.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation

http://www.storagecraft.com

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:28:13 +0400, Maxim S. Shatskih wrote:

>> And any windummy claiming to know how windopws networking really works
>> is as close to being a LIAR as Micoshaft claims to having documentation
>> for it.
>
> Correct. Most software is developed without exact documentation.

And without the customer having any significant clue what they actually
want. =)

--
Stephan
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> > Correct. Most software is developed without exact documentation.
>
> And without the customer having any significant clue what they actually
> want. =)

So is the open-source world, but in this world everybody at least has the
source, and the right to make open-source derivates.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation

http://www.storagecraft.com

Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:28:13 +0400, Maxim S. Shatskih wrote:
>
>>> And any windummy claiming to know how windopws networking really works
>>> is as close to being a LIAR as Micoshaft claims to having documentation
>>> for it.
>> Correct. Most software is developed without exact documentation.
>
> And without the customer having any significant clue what they actually
> want. =)
>


Actually that is an interesting point.

You don't see jobs for "Systems Analysts" much these days, yet that is a
function that would solve a lot of problems, trouble is as a job it;s
rather transitory. Has nothing to do with computers, here's what I mean.

Company does storage / maintenance of vehicles. Huge buildings involved.

They buy a POS software package that is expensive but completely unable
to do what they want, but those in charge explain what they want a piece
at a time so it takes skill to get a full picture out of them. They want
the software modified to do what they need, and there are needs they
haven't recognized that any analyst could see a mile away. Impossible,
package has to be replaced by a decent Database.

Exmplae they have set up the "Toy" system so the only way to find a
vehicle is by location - row / column style. This goes all to sh*t right
away since when filling the buildings someone put on vehicle in the
wrong place. No history was stored and in any case it would have been
wrong, so a total of 1000 vehicles had to b reprocessed. In putting them
away again someone made the same mistake again

Each vehicle had a rather obvious registration plate front and back, did
they attempt to use this as at least an indexable identity? Nope the
only unique ID the system would allow is chassis number, which truly is
unique and unchangeable, but it's also right under the vehicle.

Anyway, you get the idea, complete screw up as far as the eye could see.

Had the system been analyzed first nobody in their right mind would have
purchased the $100,000 package they bought, it was fine for what it did
but it did the wrong things

So in my view there are two parts involved. The programmers not having
done the "Real" job not having a grasp of the less obvious needs (Not
their fault, they cannot all do every job) and those guiding the
programmers bt accurately assessing the real job and how it need to be
put together.

That is why most software, however good it is, has missing functions or
is condemned as bad. Nobody actually sits down and analyzes the
requirements, they just "Think" they do.