About USB Speeds

hello,

I have been trying to research
a question but to no avail.

I am curious as to how usb
speeds function in vista.

firstly, it is understood that
usb 2.0 is fully functional
in vista.

however, can vista still
support usb1.0 devices?

is there a method to have
vista control the usb speed.

for example if the usb port
is 2.0, then can we reduce
the speed to 1.0?

lastly, has the 2.0 standard
been increased or made
more efficient by vista?

it seems that I have seen
usb devices be marketed
as something being able
to handle faster speeds
than 2.0.

but as marketing goes, it
may simply be "spin" on
the products.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces

" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-...
> hello,
>
> I have been trying to research
> a question but to no avail.
>
> I am curious as to how usb
> speeds function in vista.
>
> firstly, it is understood that
> usb 2.0 is fully functional
> in vista.
>
> however, can vista still
> support usb1.0 devices?
>
> is there a method to have
> vista control the usb speed.
>
> for example if the usb port
> is 2.0, then can we reduce
> the speed to 1.0?
>
> lastly, has the 2.0 standard
> been increased or made
> more efficient by vista?
>
> it seems that I have seen
> usb devices be marketed
> as something being able
> to handle faster speeds
> than 2.0.
>
> but as marketing goes, it
> may simply be "spin" on
> the products.
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> - Systems Analyst
> - Database Developer
> - Accountancy
> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>
>
>

Vista supports both USB 1.x and 2.0 devices.
A 1.x device connected to a 2.0 port will just run at normal 1.x speed etc.
--

Mike Brannigan

ok, well thanks for the
quick and simple answer.

but, that's what I initially
thought until I discovered
that it was not true with a
device I had.

I had wondered if there is a
situation that vista cannot
recognize 1.0 speeds, thus
leading me to further wonder
if there was a manual method
to ensure a reduced speed,

similar to setting the bit rate
for those ol' internet modems.

-----------------

thanks for you quick
and professional response!

perhaps, I need to
re think the issue.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces



"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message news:...
> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
> news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-...
>> hello,
>>
>> I have been trying to research
>> a question but to no avail.
>>
>> I am curious as to how usb
>> speeds function in vista.
>>
>> firstly, it is understood that
>> usb 2.0 is fully functional
>> in vista.
>>
>> however, can vista still
>> support usb1.0 devices?
>>
>> is there a method to have
>> vista control the usb speed.
>>
>> for example if the usb port
>> is 2.0, then can we reduce
>> the speed to 1.0?
>>
>> lastly, has the 2.0 standard
>> been increased or made
>> more efficient by vista?
>>
>> it seems that I have seen
>> usb devices be marketed
>> as something being able
>> to handle faster speeds
>> than 2.0.
>>
>> but as marketing goes, it
>> may simply be "spin" on
>> the products.
>>
>> --
>>
>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>> - Systems Analyst
>> - Database Developer
>> - Accountancy
>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>>
>>
>>
>
> Vista supports both USB 1.x and 2.0 devices.
> A 1.x device connected to a 2.0 port will just run at normal 1.x speed etc.
> --
>
> Mike Brannigan

" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:C17D5912-4555-415F-BC26-...
> ok, well thanks for the
> quick and simple answer.
>
> but, that's what I initially
> thought until I discovered
> that it was not true with a
> device I had.

The device may be broken or incompatible.


>
> I had wondered if there is a
> situation that vista cannot
> recognize 1.0 speeds,

Nope, it supports all the speeds. The external device may be non-compliant
in some way, or broken, if it is not responding properly.

What exactly is the problem with it?

-pk

> thus
> leading me to further wonder
> if there was a manual method
> to ensure a reduced speed,
>
> similar to setting the bit rate
> for those ol' internet modems.
>
> -----------------
>
> thanks for you quick
> and professional response!
>
> perhaps, I need to
> re think the issue.
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> - Systems Analyst
> - Database Developer
> - Accountancy
> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>
>
>
> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> news:...
>> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in
>> message news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-...
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> I have been trying to research
>>> a question but to no avail.
>>>
>>> I am curious as to how usb
>>> speeds function in vista.
>>>
>>> firstly, it is understood that
>>> usb 2.0 is fully functional
>>> in vista.
>>>
>>> however, can vista still
>>> support usb1.0 devices?
>>>
>>> is there a method to have
>>> vista control the usb speed.
>>>
>>> for example if the usb port
>>> is 2.0, then can we reduce
>>> the speed to 1.0?
>>>
>>> lastly, has the 2.0 standard
>>> been increased or made
>>> more efficient by vista?
>>>
>>> it seems that I have seen
>>> usb devices be marketed
>>> as something being able
>>> to handle faster speeds
>>> than 2.0.
>>>
>>> but as marketing goes, it
>>> may simply be "spin" on
>>> the products.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>>> - Systems Analyst
>>> - Database Developer
>>> - Accountancy
>>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Vista supports both USB 1.x and 2.0 devices.
>> A 1.x device connected to a 2.0 port will just run at normal 1.x speed
>> etc.
>> --
>>
>> Mike Brannigan
>

thanks to both of you
above for the time
in responding.

I had found a solution
a few days ago, but I
have been searching
to find if it is a documented
solution or I happened to
make a new discovery.

thus my general inquiries
about the usb system in
vista.

the problem was basically
a driver incompatibility issue
and vista simply refused
to install the driver.

also, the manufacturer
did not want to provide
a driver for the device
for vista.

so many of us were left
with a very expensive device
and no support by the
manufacturer for those of
us who upgraded to vista.

however, I discovered
a work around and the
device if now fully
functional in vista now.

with the work around vista
then automatically recognized
that device and installed the
driver for it as well - the same
winxp driver that it initially refused
to accept.

at this time I have sent an
email to the manufacturer
generally advising them of
a solution I found and with out
describing the exact methodology.

I'm not sure if I can ascertain
any benefits from the discovery,
but most assuredly their customers
will, if they know the steps necessary
to make their device(s) functional in
vista.

in any case, thanks for your time
and input.

the additional information you
guys provided were helpful.

--
db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces



"Patrick Keenan" <> wrote in message news:...
> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
> news:C17D5912-4555-415F-BC26-...
>> ok, well thanks for the
>> quick and simple answer.
>>
>> but, that's what I initially
>> thought until I discovered
>> that it was not true with a
>> device I had.
>
> The device may be broken or incompatible.
>
>
>>
>> I had wondered if there is a
>> situation that vista cannot
>> recognize 1.0 speeds,
>
> Nope, it supports all the speeds. The external device may be non-compliant in some way, or broken, if it is not responding
> properly.
>
> What exactly is the problem with it?
>
> -pk
>
>> thus
>> leading me to further wonder
>> if there was a manual method
>> to ensure a reduced speed,
>>
>> similar to setting the bit rate
>> for those ol' internet modems.
>>
>> -----------------
>>
>> thanks for you quick
>> and professional response!
>>
>> perhaps, I need to
>> re think the issue.
>>
>> --
>>
>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>> - Systems Analyst
>> - Database Developer
>> - Accountancy
>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message news:...
>>> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
>>> news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-...
>>>> hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying to research
>>>> a question but to no avail.
>>>>
>>>> I am curious as to how usb
>>>> speeds function in vista.
>>>>
>>>> firstly, it is understood that
>>>> usb 2.0 is fully functional
>>>> in vista.
>>>>
>>>> however, can vista still
>>>> support usb1.0 devices?
>>>>
>>>> is there a method to have
>>>> vista control the usb speed.
>>>>
>>>> for example if the usb port
>>>> is 2.0, then can we reduce
>>>> the speed to 1.0?
>>>>
>>>> lastly, has the 2.0 standard
>>>> been increased or made
>>>> more efficient by vista?
>>>>
>>>> it seems that I have seen
>>>> usb devices be marketed
>>>> as something being able
>>>> to handle faster speeds
>>>> than 2.0.
>>>>
>>>> but as marketing goes, it
>>>> may simply be "spin" on
>>>> the products.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>>>> - Systems Analyst
>>>> - Database Developer
>>>> - Accountancy
>>>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Vista supports both USB 1.x and 2.0 devices.
>>> A 1.x device connected to a 2.0 port will just run at normal 1.x speed etc.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Brannigan
>>
>
>

Thanks for not sharing what your work around was.

" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:3E47659B-5DB4-4FAA-828E-...
> thanks to both of you
> above for the time
> in responding.
>
> I had found a solution
> a few days ago, but I
> have been searching
> to find if it is a documented
> solution or I happened to
> make a new discovery.
>
> thus my general inquiries
> about the usb system in
> vista.
>
> the problem was basically
> a driver incompatibility issue
> and vista simply refused
> to install the driver.
>
> also, the manufacturer
> did not want to provide
> a driver for the device
> for vista.
>
> so many of us were left
> with a very expensive device
> and no support by the
> manufacturer for those of
> us who upgraded to vista.
>
> however, I discovered
> a work around and the
> device if now fully
> functional in vista now.
>
> with the work around vista
> then automatically recognized
> that device and installed the
> driver for it as well - the same
> winxp driver that it initially refused
> to accept.
>
> at this time I have sent an
> email to the manufacturer
> generally advising them of
> a solution I found and with out
> describing the exact methodology.
>
> I'm not sure if I can ascertain
> any benefits from the discovery,
> but most assuredly their customers
> will, if they know the steps necessary
> to make their device(s) functional in
> vista.
>
> in any case, thanks for your time
> and input.
>
> the additional information you
> guys provided were helpful.
>
> --
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> - Systems Analyst
> - Database Developer
> - Accountancy
> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>
>
>
> "Patrick Keenan" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in
>> message news:C17D5912-4555-415F-BC26-...
>>> ok, well thanks for the
>>> quick and simple answer.
>>>
>>> but, that's what I initially
>>> thought until I discovered
>>> that it was not true with a
>>> device I had.
>>
>> The device may be broken or incompatible.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I had wondered if there is a
>>> situation that vista cannot
>>> recognize 1.0 speeds,
>>
>> Nope, it supports all the speeds. The external device may be
>> non-compliant in some way, or broken, if it is not responding properly.
>>
>> What exactly is the problem with it?
>>
>> -pk
>>
>>> thus
>>> leading me to further wonder
>>> if there was a manual method
>>> to ensure a reduced speed,
>>>
>>> similar to setting the bit rate
>>> for those ol' internet modems.
>>>
>>> -----------------
>>>
>>> thanks for you quick
>>> and professional response!
>>>
>>> perhaps, I need to
>>> re think the issue.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>>> - Systems Analyst
>>> - Database Developer
>>> - Accountancy
>>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in
>>>> message news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-...
>>>>> hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been trying to research
>>>>> a question but to no avail.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am curious as to how usb
>>>>> speeds function in vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> firstly, it is understood that
>>>>> usb 2.0 is fully functional
>>>>> in vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> however, can vista still
>>>>> support usb1.0 devices?
>>>>>
>>>>> is there a method to have
>>>>> vista control the usb speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> for example if the usb port
>>>>> is 2.0, then can we reduce
>>>>> the speed to 1.0?
>>>>>
>>>>> lastly, has the 2.0 standard
>>>>> been increased or made
>>>>> more efficient by vista?
>>>>>
>>>>> it seems that I have seen
>>>>> usb devices be marketed
>>>>> as something being able
>>>>> to handle faster speeds
>>>>> than 2.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> but as marketing goes, it
>>>>> may simply be "spin" on
>>>>> the products.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>>>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>>>>> - Systems Analyst
>>>>> - Database Developer
>>>>> - Accountancy
>>>>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Vista supports both USB 1.x and 2.0 devices.
>>>> A 1.x device connected to a 2.0 port will just run at normal 1.x speed
>>>> etc.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mike Brannigan
>>>
>>
>>

" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:3E47659B-5DB4-4FAA-828E-...
> thanks to both of you
> above for the time
> in responding.
>
> I had found a solution
> a few days ago, but I
> have been searching
> to find if it is a documented
> solution or I happened to
> make a new discovery.
>
> thus my general inquiries
> about the usb system in
> vista.
>
> the problem was basically
> a driver incompatibility issue
> and vista simply refused
> to install the driver.
>
> also, the manufacturer
> did not want to provide
> a driver for the device
> for vista.
>
> so many of us were left
> with a very expensive device
> and no support by the
> manufacturer for those of
> us who upgraded to vista.
>
> however, I discovered
> a work around and the
> device if now fully
> functional in vista now.
>
> with the work around vista
> then automatically recognized
> that device and installed the
> driver for it as well - the same
> winxp driver that it initially refused
> to accept.
>
> at this time I have sent an
> email to the manufacturer
> generally advising them of
> a solution I found and with out
> describing the exact methodology.
>
> I'm not sure if I can ascertain
> any benefits from the discovery,
> but most assuredly their customers
> will, if they know the steps necessary
> to make their device(s) functional in
> vista.
>

I wouldn't hold my breath in anticipation.

Best
Paul.

" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-...
> hello,
>
> I have been trying to research
> a question but to no avail.
>
> I am curious as to how usb
> speeds function in vista.
>
> firstly, it is understood that
> usb 2.0 is fully functional
> in vista.
>
> however, can vista still
> support usb1.0 devices?
>
> is there a method to have
> vista control the usb speed.
>
> for example if the usb port
> is 2.0, then can we reduce
> the speed to 1.0?
>
> lastly, has the 2.0 standard
> been increased or made
> more efficient by vista?
>
> it seems that I have seen
> usb devices be marketed
> as something being able
> to handle faster speeds
> than 2.0.
>
> but as marketing goes, it
> may simply be "spin" on
> the products.
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> - Systems Analyst
> - Database Developer
> - Accountancy
> - Veteran of the Armed Forces

Check out; (if not already)
9. How does USB 2.0 and 1.1 work together?
10. How does a USB hub slow down devices?

From the webpage;
http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm

Get techincal here;
http://www.usbmadesimple.co.uk/
Nothing simple though...!

Hope this can assist you in your research;
http://www.usb.org/home


- Vista Cabal

will review the info.

thanks.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces



"Vista Cabal" <> wrote in message news:#...
>
> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
> news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-...
>> hello,
>>
>> I have been trying to research
>> a question but to no avail.
>>
>> I am curious as to how usb
>> speeds function in vista.
>>
>> firstly, it is understood that
>> usb 2.0 is fully functional
>> in vista.
>>
>> however, can vista still
>> support usb1.0 devices?
>>
>> is there a method to have
>> vista control the usb speed.
>>
>> for example if the usb port
>> is 2.0, then can we reduce
>> the speed to 1.0?
>>
>> lastly, has the 2.0 standard
>> been increased or made
>> more efficient by vista?
>>
>> it seems that I have seen
>> usb devices be marketed
>> as something being able
>> to handle faster speeds
>> than 2.0.
>>
>> but as marketing goes, it
>> may simply be "spin" on
>> the products.
>>
>> --
>>
>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>> - Systems Analyst
>> - Database Developer
>> - Accountancy
>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>
> Check out; (if not already)
> 9. How does USB 2.0 and 1.1 work together?
> 10. How does a USB hub slow down devices?
>
> From the webpage;
> http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm
>
> Get techincal here;
> http://www.usbmadesimple.co.uk/
> Nothing simple though...!
>
> Hope this can assist you in your research;
> http://www.usb.org/home
>
>
> - Vista Cabal
>
>
>
>
>