usenet problem

Not sure why but I get (often) very bad performance using NNTP with Windows
Mail (Windows Business)
Often I will click on a group or message and wait and wait....
After I while I get the msg that the server has not responded and I can stop
or wait.

This happens almost every time I use Usenet.
It is not isolated to the Microsoft group as I also get Usenet posts through
external-September.

I have used Usenet for 15 years and never had this problem till recently.
People who use the same ISP as me don't have this problem.
On occasion I can use it just fine so it is not a (personal) firewall issue.

Ideas?

Mr.Pancks wrote:
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:e9d70ec8-c000-4f5e-840a-...
> On Aug 2, 9:28 am, "Jack" <nore...@here.orhere> wrote:
>> Not sure why but I get (often) very bad performance using NNTP with
>> Windows
>> Mail (Windows Business)
>> Often I will click on a group or message and wait and wait....
>> After I while I get the msg that the server has not responded and I
>> can stop
>> or wait.
>>
>> This happens almost every time I use Usenet.
>> It is not isolated to the Microsoft group as I also get Usenet posts
>> through
>> external-September.
>>
>> I have used Usenet for 15 years and never had this problem till recently.
>> People who use the same ISP as me don't have this problem.
>> On occasion I can use it just fine so it is not a (personal) firewall
>> issue.
>>
>> Ideas?
>
> http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird.
>
> LOL
> That's probably not it, its most likely just the server.
> I get it all the time with x-private in both Windows and Linux.

With Linux that is about all the computer can do is post messages to
usenet. If you want to do real work, continue to use Windows.

On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:28:29 +1200, "Jack" <> wrote:

>Not sure why but I get (often) very bad performance using NNTP with Windows
>Mail (Windows Business)
>Often I will click on a group or message and wait and wait....
>After I while I get the msg that the server has not responded and I can stop
>or wait.
>
>This happens almost every time I use Usenet.
>It is not isolated to the Microsoft group as I also get Usenet posts through
>external-September.
>
>I have used Usenet for 15 years and never had this problem till recently.
>People who use the same ISP as me don't have this problem.
>On occasion I can use it just fine so it is not a (personal) firewall issue.
>
>Ideas?

Start -> Run -> cmd.exe -> tracert -d usenet.servername.here

Do you have a firewall or router filtering or blocking port 119 or
whatever port you use for NNTP? Have you tried free Xnews or Agent with
the same servers and what was the result?

This will help identify your problem.

--
Best Regards, Keith
http://home.comcast.net/~kilowattradio/

Duck,Duck,Goose wrote:
> "Gordon's Psychiatrist" <> wrote in message
> news:h549mp$f4v$...
>> Mr.Pancks wrote:
>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>>> news:e9d70ec8-c000-4f5e-840a-...
>>> On Aug 2, 9:28 am, "Jack" <nore...@here.orhere> wrote:
>>>> Not sure why but I get (often) very bad performance using NNTP with
>>>> Windows
>>>> Mail (Windows Business)
>>>> Often I will click on a group or message and wait and wait....
>>>> After I while I get the msg that the server has not responded and I can
>>>> stop
>>>> or wait.
>>>>
>>>> This happens almost every time I use Usenet.
>>>> It is not isolated to the Microsoft group as I also get Usenet posts
>>>> through
>>>> external-September.
>>>>
>>>> I have used Usenet for 15 years and never had this problem till
>>>> recently.
>>>> People who use the same ISP as me don't have this problem.
>>>> On occasion I can use it just fine so it is not a (personal) firewall
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> Ideas?
>>> http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird.
>>>
>>> LOL
>>> That's probably not it, its most likely just the server.
>>> I get it all the time with x-private in both Windows and Linux.
>> With Linux that is about all the computer can do is post messages to
>> usenet. If you want to do real work, continue to use Windows.
>>
>
> I'll use Windows, Linux, and whatever else I wish.

Never said you can't use what you want. Have reading comprehension
problems again?


> I don't really take advice from morons.

So don't ask MORONS any advice. What a MORON.

> But thanks for thinking of me.

What makes you think I was thinking of you? Oh yea, I took a **** this
morning. You are right, I did think of you.


> Since my taxes are probably supporting you, you're welcome.

No. Wrong again as usual. I work and pay taxes. Probably more in
taxes than you make in a year.

Oops.


>
> You should try Linux.

Tried Linux but it doesn't run the Microsoft apps I use. Oops.


> It's an OS you own, Not MS.

I don't want to have anything to do with Linux.


> I'm sure Linux is easy enough even for you to use.
>
>

Linux is easy to use if you want to read e-mail and generate nasty posts.

"Jack" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Not sure why but I get (often) very bad performance using NNTP with
> Windows Mail (Windows Business)
> Often I will click on a group or message and wait and wait....
> After I while I get the msg that the server has not responded and I can
> stop or wait.
>
> This happens almost every time I use Usenet.
> It is not isolated to the Microsoft group as I also get Usenet posts
> through external-September.
>
> I have used Usenet for 15 years and never had this problem till recently.
> People who use the same ISP as me don't have this problem.
> On occasion I can use it just fine so it is not a (personal) firewall
> issue.
>
> Ideas?

Jack:

I am using NNTP with no problems. There is a possibility that your SSL
setting may be interfering.
You may be able to find a solution by checking settings in Tools>Accounts
and then the Properties of your Usenet Server. Sometimes the error # will
give you a clue also.
Best of luck,

Harry.


>

"Keith" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:28:29 +1200, "Jack" <> wrote:
>
>>Not sure why but I get (often) very bad performance using NNTP with
>>Windows
>>Mail (Windows Business)
>>Often I will click on a group or message and wait and wait....
>>After I while I get the msg that the server has not responded and I can
>>stop
>>or wait.
>>
>>This happens almost every time I use Usenet.
>>It is not isolated to the Microsoft group as I also get Usenet posts
>>through
>>external-September.
>>
>>I have used Usenet for 15 years and never had this problem till recently.
>>People who use the same ISP as me don't have this problem.
>>On occasion I can use it just fine so it is not a (personal) firewall
>>issue.
>>
>>Ideas?
>
> Start -> Run -> cmd.exe -> tracert -d usenet.servername.here
>
> Do you have a firewall or router filtering or blocking port 119 or
> whatever port you use for NNTP? Have you tried free Xnews or Agent with
> the same servers and what was the result?
>
> This will help identify your problem.
>
> --
> Best Regards, Keith
> http://home.comcast.net/~kilowattradio/



A tracert to msnews.microsoft.com shows quite a lot of timeouts - out of my
control
No filtering or blocking of anything.
Example, it took seconds to d/l all the headers in this group. It took 40-60
seconds to d/l the single message body you sent in reply.

Was hoping not to have to install other SW in order to try and fix and the
tracert seems to indicate the problem is not SW related

"webster72n" <> wrote in message
news:eqAxGC%...
>
>
> "Jack" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Not sure why but I get (often) very bad performance using NNTP with
>> Windows Mail (Windows Business)
>> Often I will click on a group or message and wait and wait....
>> After I while I get the msg that the server has not responded and I can
>> stop or wait.
>>
>> This happens almost every time I use Usenet.
>> It is not isolated to the Microsoft group as I also get Usenet posts
>> through external-September.
>>
>> I have used Usenet for 15 years and never had this problem till recently.
>> People who use the same ISP as me don't have this problem.
>> On occasion I can use it just fine so it is not a (personal) firewall
>> issue.
>>
>> Ideas?
>
> Jack:
>
> I am using NNTP with no problems. There is a possibility that your SSL
> setting may be interfering.
> You may be able to find a solution by checking settings in Tools>Accounts
> and then the Properties of your Usenet Server. Sometimes the error # will
> give you a clue also.
> Best of luck,
>
> Harry.
>
>
>>



Not using the SSL setting for usenet.
The error just says timed out waiting for the server to respond.

"Jack" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "webster72n" <> wrote in message
> news:eqAxGC%...
>>
>>
>> "Jack" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Not sure why but I get (often) very bad performance using NNTP with
>>> Windows Mail (Windows Business)
>>> Often I will click on a group or message and wait and wait....
>>> After I while I get the msg that the server has not responded and I can
>>> stop or wait.
>>>
>>> This happens almost every time I use Usenet.
>>> It is not isolated to the Microsoft group as I also get Usenet posts
>>> through external-September.
>>>
>>> I have used Usenet for 15 years and never had this problem till
>>> recently.
>>> People who use the same ISP as me don't have this problem.
>>> On occasion I can use it just fine so it is not a (personal) firewall
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> Ideas?
>>
>> Jack:
>>
>> I am using NNTP with no problems. There is a possibility that your SSL
>> setting may be interfering.
>> You may be able to find a solution by checking settings in Tools>Accounts
>> and then the Properties of your Usenet Server. Sometimes the error # will
>> give you a clue also.
>> Best of luck,
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>
> Not using the SSL setting for usenet.
> The error just says timed out waiting for the server to respond.

1. In >Tools>Options under 'General' do you have the option "Use newsgroup
Communities support features" checked? It should be.
2. The keywords in the message are: 'timed out' and 'waiting for the server
to respond'. That's where your irregularities are.
Check time out settings and/or with your service provider,
even though others are not effected.


>

"webster72n" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
>
> "Jack" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "webster72n" <> wrote in message
>> news:eqAxGC%...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jack" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Not sure why but I get (often) very bad performance using NNTP with
>>>> Windows Mail (Windows Business)
>>>> Often I will click on a group or message and wait and wait....
>>>> After I while I get the msg that the server has not responded and I can
>>>> stop or wait.
>>>>
>>>> This happens almost every time I use Usenet.
>>>> It is not isolated to the Microsoft group as I also get Usenet posts
>>>> through external-September.
>>>>
>>>> I have used Usenet for 15 years and never had this problem till
>>>> recently.
>>>> People who use the same ISP as me don't have this problem.
>>>> On occasion I can use it just fine so it is not a (personal) firewall
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> Ideas?
>>>
>>> Jack:
>>>
>>> I am using NNTP with no problems. There is a possibility that your SSL
>>> setting may be interfering.
>>> You may be able to find a solution by checking settings in
>>> Tools>Accounts and then the Properties of your Usenet Server. Sometimes
>>> the error # will give you a clue also.
>>> Best of luck,
>>>
>>> Harry.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Not using the SSL setting for usenet.
>> The error just says timed out waiting for the server to respond.
>
> 1. In >Tools>Options under 'General' do you have the option "Use newsgroup
> Communities support features" checked? It should be.

No such option for me.


> 2. The keywords in the message are: 'timed out' and 'waiting for the
> server to respond'. That's where your irregularities are.
> Check time out settings and/or with your service provider,
> even though others are not effected.

My settings are the same as I've used for 15 years port 119 no SSL no login
required.
In the 10 minutes since I opened windows mail and then "entered" this group
I have had the time out message on 2 posts and 2 posts which have d/l
instantly.
The problem is very intermittent.

On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:56:27 +1200, "Jack" <> wrote:

>My settings are the same as I've used for 15 years port 119 no SSL no login
>required.
>In the 10 minutes since I opened windows mail and then "entered" this group
>I have had the time out message on 2 posts and 2 posts which have d/l
>instantly.
>The problem is very intermittent.

Post a trace to either or both servers showing the time outs.