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dbright19
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      10-06-2008
The time on our servers (and domain) is about 5 to 8 minutes fast. I am
trying use an external source to set time in a domain environment. I have
been having problems following the directions in the following article:
How to configure an authoritative time server in Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816042
I have two w2k3 standard edition SP2 servers. One server is the PDC, but
when you type net time, it is pointing to the GP server. On the GP server it
points to itself. I have made all suggested changes in the above article,
and tried different time servers. I even tried using the command line:
net time: / setsntp:timesource - completed but no change, also tried:
w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:TimeServer(both w/ 0x1 and w/o)
/syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update -- NADA
On the PDC - the log indicates:
Event ID: 35, the time service is now synchronizing the system time with the
time source gp.local (nep.dl192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
If go to the GP and try the same command, (get 2 different errors
Event ID: 14, The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain
controller to use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in x min.
Event ID: 29, The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from
one or more time sources; however none of the sources are currently
accessible.

I have opened port 123, and pinged the time server, but get the same results.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,


 
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Leonard Agoado
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      10-07-2008

"dbright19" <> wrote in message
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> The time on our servers (and domain) is about 5 to 8 minutes fast. I am



dbright19,

Reread the time sync documents. Your main DC - (the one with the FMSO
roles - there is no "PDC") should get its time from an authoritative
external source, not from the GP Server.

See -

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/262680

http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers


Every other domain member will sync to the DC, including the GP Server,
if it is a member of the same domain.

Regards,

Leonard Agoado






 
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Meinolf Weber
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      10-07-2008
Hello dbright19,

On one of the DC's run "netdom query fsmo" in a command line and find the
DC which holds the PDCEmulator role. On this DC you have to set the external
time source. If netdom is not found on the machine, install the support\tools\suptools.msi
on the DC from the installation disk.

w32tm /config /manualpeerlisteers /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update

With "peers" you can set the time source, either DNS name (time.windows.com)
or an ip address from a reliable time source.

Here you can find some of them:
http://www.pool.ntp.org/


Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
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> The time on our servers (and domain) is about 5 to 8 minutes fast. I
> am
> trying use an external source to set time in a domain environment. I
> have
> been having problems following the directions in the following
> article:
> How to configure an authoritative time server in Windows Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816042
> I have two w2k3 standard edition SP2 servers. One server is the PDC,
> but
> when you type net time, it is pointing to the GP server. On the GP
> server it
> points to itself. I have made all suggested changes in the above
> article,
> and tried different time servers. I even tried using the command
> line:
> net time: / setsntp:timesource - completed but no change, also tried:
> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:TimeServer(both w/ 0x1 and w/o)
> /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update -- NADA
> On the PDC - the log indicates:
> Event ID: 35, the time service is now synchronizing the system time
> with the
> time source gp.local (nep.dl192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
> If go to the GP and try the same command, (get 2 different errors
> Event ID: 14, The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain
> controller to use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in x
> min.
> Event ID: 29, The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire
> time from
> one or more time sources; however none of the sources are currently
> accessible.
> I have opened port 123, and pinged the time server, but get the same
> results.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>



 
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dbright19
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      10-07-2008

I followed the suggestions and still have the problem, and thanks for your
suggestions. I got the following information from running "netdom query
fsmo" on both the PDC server and the GP server :

Schema owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local

Domain role owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local

PDC role xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local

RID pool manager xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local

Infrastructure owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local

SO:
PDC: Setup to use external time source
timex.peachnet.edu --> 131.144.4.9

w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:131.144.4.9 /syncfromflags:manual
/reliable:yes /update

GP:
w32tm /config /update /syncfromflags:domhier /reliable:yes

each command completed with no errors. I have the same problem. Both
servers seem to be looking to GP

ON THE GP:
C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
ICMP: 0ms delay.
NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
ICMP: 0ms delay.
NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]

C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 4:21 PM

From PDC:

C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
ICMP: 0ms delay.
NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
ICMP: 0ms delay.
NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]

C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM

Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello dbright19,
>
> On one of the DC's run "netdom query fsmo" in a command line and find the
> DC which holds the PDCEmulator role. On this DC you have to set the external
> time source. If netdom is not found on the machine, install the support\tools\suptools.msi
> on the DC from the installation disk.
>
> w32tm /config /manualpeerlisteers /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update
>
> With "peers" you can set the time source, either DNS name (time.windows.com)
> or an ip address from a reliable time source.
>
> Here you can find some of them:
> http://www.pool.ntp.org/
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > The time on our servers (and domain) is about 5 to 8 minutes fast. I
> > am
> > trying use an external source to set time in a domain environment. I
> > have
> > been having problems following the directions in the following
> > article:
> > How to configure an authoritative time server in Windows Server 2003
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816042
> > I have two w2k3 standard edition SP2 servers. One server is the PDC,
> > but
> > when you type net time, it is pointing to the GP server. On the GP
> > server it
> > points to itself. I have made all suggested changes in the above
> > article,
> > and tried different time servers. I even tried using the command
> > line:
> > net time: / setsntp:timesource - completed but no change, also tried:
> > w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:TimeServer(both w/ 0x1 and w/o)
> > /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update -- NADA
> > On the PDC - the log indicates:
> > Event ID: 35, the time service is now synchronizing the system time
> > with the
> > time source gp.local (nep.dl192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
> > If go to the GP and try the same command, (get 2 different errors
> > Event ID: 14, The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain
> > controller to use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in x
> > min.
> > Event ID: 29, The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire
> > time from
> > one or more time sources; however none of the sources are currently
> > accessible.
> > I have opened port 123, and pinged the time server, but get the same
> > results.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >

>
>
>

 
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Meinolf Weber
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      10-07-2008
Hello dbright19,

What is your GP server?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
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> I followed the suggestions and still have the problem, and thanks for
> your suggestions. I got the following information from running
> "netdom query fsmo" on both the PDC server and the GP server :
>
> Schema owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local
>
> Domain role owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local
>
> PDC role xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local
>
> RID pool manager xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local
>
> Infrastructure owner xxxxxxx-pdc.xxxxxxx.local
>
> SO:
> PDC: Setup to use external time source
> timex.peachnet.edu --> 131.144.4.9
> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:131.144.4.9 /syncfromflags:manual
> /reliable:yes /update
>
> GP:
> w32tm /config /update /syncfromflags:domhier /reliable:yes
> each command completed with no errors. I have the same problem. Both
> servers seem to be looking to GP
>
> ON THE GP:
> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 4:21 PM
> From PDC:
>
> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello dbright19,
>>
>> On one of the DC's run "netdom query fsmo" in a command line and find
>> the DC which holds the PDCEmulator role. On this DC you have to set
>> the external time source. If netdom is not found on the machine,
>> install the support\tools\suptools.msi on the DC from the
>> installation disk.
>>
>> w32tm /config /manualpeerlisteers /syncfromflags:manual
>> /reliable:yes /update
>>
>> With "peers" you can set the time source, either DNS name
>> (time.windows.com) or an ip address from a reliable time source.
>>
>> Here you can find some of them:
>> http://www.pool.ntp.org/
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> The time on our servers (and domain) is about 5 to 8 minutes fast.
>>> I
>>> am
>>> trying use an external source to set time in a domain environment.
>>> I
>>> have
>>> been having problems following the directions in the following
>>> article:
>>> How to configure an authoritative time server in Windows Server 2003
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816042
>>> I have two w2k3 standard edition SP2 servers. One server is the
>>> PDC,
>>> but
>>> when you type net time, it is pointing to the GP server. On the GP
>>> server it
>>> points to itself. I have made all suggested changes in the above
>>> article,
>>> and tried different time servers. I even tried using the command
>>> line:
>>> net time: / setsntp:timesource - completed but no change, also
>>> tried:
>>> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:TimeServer(both w/ 0x1 and w/o)
>>> /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update -- NADA
>>> On the PDC - the log indicates:
>>> Event ID: 35, the time service is now synchronizing the system time
>>> with the
>>> time source gp.local (nep.dl192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
>>> If go to the GP and try the same command, (get 2 different errors
>>> Event ID: 14, The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a
>>> domain
>>> controller to use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in x
>>> min.
>>> Event ID: 29, The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire
>>> time from
>>> one or more time sources; however none of the sources are currently
>>> accessible.
>>> I have opened port 123, and pinged the time server, but get the same
>>> results.
>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>



 
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      10-07-2008

"dbright19" <> wrote


> From PDC:
>
> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
>
> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
>
> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.




dbright19,

On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you
restart the Windows Time service?

Regards,

Leonard Agoado



 
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dbright19
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      10-08-2008
The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.

The GP Event Log:

Source: W32Time
Event ID: 29
Computer: GP

The time provider NtpClient is configured to
acquire time from one or more time sources,
however none of the sources are currently
accessible. No attempt to contact a source
will be made for 15 minutes . NtpClient has
no source of accurate time.

For more information, see Help and Support Center
at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to
30 / 60 / 120 / 240 / 480.


Also at same time:
Source: w32Time
Event ID: 14
Computer: GP

The time provider NtpClient was unable to find
a domain controller to use as a time source.
NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.

For more information, see Help and Support Center
at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.



Event log On PDC:

Source: W32Time
Event ID: 35
Computer: PDC

The time service is now synchronizing the
system time with the time source
gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.





"Leonard Agoado" wrote:

>
> "dbright19" <> wrote
>
>
> > From PDC:
> >
> > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
> > pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
> > ICMP: 0ms delay.
> > NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
> > RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
> > gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
> > ICMP: 0ms delay.
> > NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
> > RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
> >
> > C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
> > Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
> >
> > Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.

>
>
>
> dbright19,
>
> On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you
> restart the Windows Time service?
>
> Regards,
>
> Leonard Agoado
>
>
>
>

 
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Meinolf Weber
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      10-08-2008
Hello dbright19,

Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from 192.168.1.14 and 192.168.1.22
Which of them is the PDCEmulator?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.
>
> The GP Event Log:
>
> Source: W32Time Event ID: 29 Computer: GP
>
> The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from one or
> more time sources, however none of the sources are currently
> accessible. No attempt to contact a source will be made for 15
> minutes . NtpClient has no source of accurate time.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>
> REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to 30 / 60 / 120 / 240 / 480.
>
> Also at same time:
> Source: w32Time
> Event ID: 14
> Computer: GP
> The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain controller to
> use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>
> Event log On PDC:
>
> Source: W32Time
> Event ID: 35
> Computer: PDC
> The time service is now synchronizing the system time with the time
> source gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>
> "Leonard Agoado" wrote:
>
>> "dbright19" <> wrote
>>
>>> From PDC:
>>>
>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
>>> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
>>> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
>>> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
>>> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
>>> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
>>> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
>>> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
>>> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>>>

>> dbright19,
>>
>> On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you restart the
>> Windows Time service?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Leonard Agoado
>>



 
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      10-08-2008
Note: I can ping the NTP server selected from both servers, and port 123 is
open.

IPCONFIG INFO:

GP:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : gp
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet
Adapter (1
0/100)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : yy-yy-yy-yy-yy-yy
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.22
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
192.168.1.10
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10

C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>

PDC:


Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pdc
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
DOMAINNAME

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : DOMAINNAME
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI TX NIC
(3C90
5B-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
192.168.1.11

C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>


"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello dbright19,
>
> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from 192.168.1.14 and 192.168.1.22
> Which of them is the PDCEmulator?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.
> >
> > The GP Event Log:
> >
> > Source: W32Time Event ID: 29 Computer: GP
> >
> > The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from one or
> > more time sources, however none of the sources are currently
> > accessible. No attempt to contact a source will be made for 15
> > minutes . NtpClient has no source of accurate time.
> >
> > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> >
> > REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to 30 / 60 / 120 / 240 / 480.
> >
> > Also at same time:
> > Source: w32Time
> > Event ID: 14
> > Computer: GP
> > The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain controller to
> > use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.
> >
> > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> >
> > Event log On PDC:
> >
> > Source: W32Time
> > Event ID: 35
> > Computer: PDC
> > The time service is now synchronizing the system time with the time
> > source gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
> >
> > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> >
> > "Leonard Agoado" wrote:
> >
> >> "dbright19" <> wrote
> >>
> >>> From PDC:
> >>>
> >>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
> >>> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
> >>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> >>> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
> >>> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
> >>> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
> >>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
> >>> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
> >>> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
> >>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
> >>> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
> >>> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
> >>>
> >> dbright19,
> >>
> >> On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you restart the
> >> Windows Time service?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Leonard Agoado
> >>

>
>
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Hello dbright19,

Because all computers in a domain belongs to the time on the PDCEmulator
it can not use a domain member as time server. The x.x.x.22 is domain internal.

On the PDCEmulator you have to configure to an domain EXTERNAL time server.
See this one:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc786897.aspx

Or see "Configuring the Windows Time service to use an internal hardware
clock":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042

In a domain the PDCEmulator is the time source, all DC's sync with it and
all member servers and workstations sync with one available DC, that's the
way in a domain.

Best regards

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> Note: I can ping the NTP server selected from both servers, and port
> 123 is open.
>
> IPCONFIG INFO:
>
> GP:
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : gp
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet
> Adapter (1
> 0/100)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : yy-yy-yy-yy-yy-yy
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.22
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
> 192.168.1.10
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
>
> PDC:
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pdc
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : xxxxxxxx.local
> DOMAINNAME
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : DOMAINNAME
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI TX
> NIC
> (3C90
> 5B-TX)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14
> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
> 192.168.1.11
> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>
>
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello dbright19,
>>
>> Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from 192.168.1.14 and
>> 192.168.1.22 Which of them is the PDCEmulator?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> The GP Server is a Personnel / File Server.
>>>
>>> The GP Event Log:
>>>
>>> Source: W32Time Event ID: 29 Computer: GP
>>>
>>> The time provider NtpClient is configured to acquire time from one
>>> or more time sources, however none of the sources are currently
>>> accessible. No attempt to contact a source will be made for 15
>>> minutes . NtpClient has no source of accurate time.
>>>
>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>
>>> REPEATS but changes the minutes from 15 to 30 / 60 / 120 / 240 /
>>> 480.
>>>
>>> Also at same time:
>>> Source: w32Time
>>> Event ID: 14
>>> Computer: GP
>>> The time provider NtpClient was unable to find a domain controller
>>> to
>>> use as a time source. NtpClient will try again in 15 minutes.
>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>
>>> Event log On PDC:
>>>
>>> Source: W32Time
>>> Event ID: 35
>>> Computer: PDC
>>> The time service is now synchronizing the system time with the time
>>> source gp.xxxxxx.local (ntp.d|192.168.1.14:123->192.168.1.22:123).
>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>
>>> "Leonard Agoado" wrote:
>>>
>>>> "dbright19" <> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> From PDC:
>>>>>
>>>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>w32tm /monitor
>>>>> pdc.xxxxx.local *** PDC *** [192.168.1.14]:
>>>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
>>>>> NTP: +0.0000000s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
>>>>> RefID: gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]
>>>>> gp.xxxxx.local [192.168.1.22]:
>>>>> ICMP: 0ms delay.
>>>>> NTP: -0.0000663s offset from pdc.xxxxx.local
>>>>> RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]
>>>>> C:\WINNT\Profiles\Administrator>net time
>>>>> Current time at \\GP is 10/7/2008 5:05 PM
>>>>> Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>>>> dbright19,
>>>>
>>>> On the PDC, what does the System Event Log show when you restart
>>>> the Windows Time service?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Leonard Agoado
>>>>



 
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