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Daggoth
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      01-01-2010

Hi there,

I'll start by pointing out that I am by no means a rookie with
computers. I've used and done troubleshooting on PCs for quite a while.
Be that as it may, this issue is a new one to me and simply beyond me.

Whenever I attempt to download a file via either of my internet
browsers(IE/Firefox) the files simply vanish. I can watch the files
download and observe the progress bar. I can even repeatedly select the
un-finished files I'm downloading and check their properties and confirm
the files are the same size as the progress bar indicates. However, the
moment the download finishes, the files simply cease to exist. The icon
vanishes from the destination directory. It does not appear in any other
directory, and any uses of search of the entirety of the hard drive for
the filename of the vanished file come up empty.

Perhaps even less sensible, repeated attempts to download the same file
will sometimes result and a .part portion of the file remaining present
in the destination, but any attempt to delete the file results in an
error message telling me the file is not present, verify the location
and try again. Weird given that I can right click the .part and select
delete or drag it into a recycling bin only to be told the file I just
clicked isn't there.

And a last note on the issue, is that I have managed to 'trick' the
problem with a large file download on firefox by downloading it
repeatedly and attempting to open a previous vanished download of the
same file in the same destination as the current download reaches about
a half-second from completion itself. Can't really explain how I am able
to pull that one off.

I've run virus scans, defrags, scandisk, scannow - none have been able
to resolve the issue. I have disengaged virus protections, firewalls,
security settings, and (re)activated them as well - also to no effect. I
have used system restore to go back nearly a full week before the
problem was noticed(and given how often to download this or that, I
don't imagine the problem existed very long at all before I noticed it)
- also ineffective.

I have not made any changes or installed any new hardware at the time
of this error, though I did update drivers to my monitor in between the
time that downloads worked fine and when they 'vanish', but how that
could have had any impact on downloads is unclear. I have all files
unhidden, and have used the command prompt to scour the destinations for
any trace of the files and still have found none. And this is perhaps
the single most perplexing part of the whole problem, because checking
of the free space and properties of my C: drive show the free space gone
equal to the amount of the downloads, but they remain nowhere to be
seen.

Thanks for any help with this issue while I continue to scour heaven
and hell to find where these files go!


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      01-01-2010
Turn off User Account Control in Users in Control Panel. This is testing
IE's (I know nothing of firefox) protected mode.

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"Daggoth" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'll start by pointing out that I am by no means a rookie with
> computers. I've used and done troubleshooting on PCs for quite a while.
> Be that as it may, this issue is a new one to me and simply beyond me.
>
> Whenever I attempt to download a file via either of my internet
> browsers(IE/Firefox) the files simply vanish. I can watch the files
> download and observe the progress bar. I can even repeatedly select the
> un-finished files I'm downloading and check their properties and confirm
> the files are the same size as the progress bar indicates. However, the
> moment the download finishes, the files simply cease to exist. The icon
> vanishes from the destination directory. It does not appear in any other
> directory, and any uses of search of the entirety of the hard drive for
> the filename of the vanished file come up empty.
>
> Perhaps even less sensible, repeated attempts to download the same file
> will sometimes result and a .part portion of the file remaining present
> in the destination, but any attempt to delete the file results in an
> error message telling me the file is not present, verify the location
> and try again. Weird given that I can right click the .part and select
> delete or drag it into a recycling bin only to be told the file I just
> clicked isn't there.
>
> And a last note on the issue, is that I have managed to 'trick' the
> problem with a large file download on firefox by downloading it
> repeatedly and attempting to open a previous vanished download of the
> same file in the same destination as the current download reaches about
> a half-second from completion itself. Can't really explain how I am able
> to pull that one off.
>
> I've run virus scans, defrags, scandisk, scannow - none have been able
> to resolve the issue. I have disengaged virus protections, firewalls,
> security settings, and (re)activated them as well - also to no effect. I
> have used system restore to go back nearly a full week before the
> problem was noticed(and given how often to download this or that, I
> don't imagine the problem existed very long at all before I noticed it)
> - also ineffective.
>
> I have not made any changes or installed any new hardware at the time
> of this error, though I did update drivers to my monitor in between the
> time that downloads worked fine and when they 'vanish', but how that
> could have had any impact on downloads is unclear. I have all files
> unhidden, and have used the command prompt to scour the destinations for
> any trace of the files and still have found none. And this is perhaps
> the single most perplexing part of the whole problem, because checking
> of the free space and properties of my C: drive show the free space gone
> equal to the amount of the downloads, but they remain nowhere to be
> seen.
>
> Thanks for any help with this issue while I continue to scour heaven
> and hell to find where these files go!
>
>
> --
> Daggoth


 
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Andrew Murray
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      01-01-2010

When download something, usually the browser will prompt you with a dialogue
box with options, something like "Open/Run" and/or "Save" make sure you
choose the Save option, and make a note of where on your PC disk you're
saving it. e.g. use the default like the "Downloads" folder.

Maybe you have a partition or separate hard drive for this purpose, but make
sure you take note of where you save it, as you can specify the folder to
download to before the download starts. Maybe even try downloading to
desktop - temporarily - and then you will know you have the file because it
will be most obvious when you minimize all windows, the file should be
sitting there - then you can cut and paste to the correct disk or partition
where you save such files.

Firefox usually notifies you when a download is complete, it shows the
"downloads" window on screen, and the most recent d/load is the top listed
one. You can access this window also by the tool bar (click the download
icon) or from "Tools" menu, choose "Downloads" option.

Not sure about IE8 as I rarely use it. Have you tried any other browser to
see if it exhibits the same behaviour? e.g. Opera, Chrome, Safari and
others.

I don't know if the above is really addressing your problem, or that it
contains anything you don't already know but hope it may assist in any case.

"Daggoth" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'll start by pointing out that I am by no means a rookie with
> computers. I've used and done troubleshooting on PCs for quite a while.
> Be that as it may, this issue is a new one to me and simply beyond me.
>
> Whenever I attempt to download a file via either of my internet
> browsers(IE/Firefox) the files simply vanish. I can watch the files
> download and observe the progress bar. I can even repeatedly select the
> un-finished files I'm downloading and check their properties and confirm
> the files are the same size as the progress bar indicates. However, the
> moment the download finishes, the files simply cease to exist. The icon
> vanishes from the destination directory. It does not appear in any other
> directory, and any uses of search of the entirety of the hard drive for
> the filename of the vanished file come up empty.
>
> Perhaps even less sensible, repeated attempts to download the same file
> will sometimes result and a .part portion of the file remaining present
> in the destination, but any attempt to delete the file results in an
> error message telling me the file is not present, verify the location
> and try again. Weird given that I can right click the .part and select
> delete or drag it into a recycling bin only to be told the file I just
> clicked isn't there.
>
> And a last note on the issue, is that I have managed to 'trick' the
> problem with a large file download on firefox by downloading it
> repeatedly and attempting to open a previous vanished download of the
> same file in the same destination as the current download reaches about
> a half-second from completion itself. Can't really explain how I am able
> to pull that one off.
>
> I've run virus scans, defrags, scandisk, scannow - none have been able
> to resolve the issue. I have disengaged virus protections, firewalls,
> security settings, and (re)activated them as well - also to no effect. I
> have used system restore to go back nearly a full week before the
> problem was noticed(and given how often to download this or that, I
> don't imagine the problem existed very long at all before I noticed it)
> - also ineffective.
>
> I have not made any changes or installed any new hardware at the time
> of this error, though I did update drivers to my monitor in between the
> time that downloads worked fine and when they 'vanish', but how that
> could have had any impact on downloads is unclear. I have all files
> unhidden, and have used the command prompt to scour the destinations for
> any trace of the files and still have found none. And this is perhaps
> the single most perplexing part of the whole problem, because checking
> of the free space and properties of my C: drive show the free space gone
> equal to the amount of the downloads, but they remain nowhere to be
> seen.
>
> Thanks for any help with this issue while I continue to scour heaven
> and hell to find where these files go!
>
>
> --
> Daggoth


 
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philo
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      01-02-2010
Daggoth wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I'll start by pointing out that I am by no means a rookie with
> computers. I've used and done troubleshooting on PCs for quite a while.
> Be that as it may, this issue is a new one to me and simply beyond me.
>
> Whenever I attempt to download a file via either of my internet
> browsers(IE/Firefox) the files simply vanish. I can watch the files
> download and observe the progress bar. I can even repeatedly select the
> un-finished files I'm downloading and check their properties and confirm
> the files are the same size as the progress bar indicates. However, the
> moment the download finishes, the files simply cease to exist. The icon
> vanishes from the destination directory. It does not appear in any other
> directory, and any uses of search of the entirety of the hard drive for
> the filename of the vanished file come up empty.
>
> Perhaps even less sensible, repeated attempts to download the same file
> will sometimes result and a .part portion of the file remaining present
> in the destination, but any attempt to delete the file results in an
> error message telling me the file is not present, verify the location
> and try again. Weird given that I can right click the .part and select
> delete or drag it into a recycling bin only to be told the file I just
> clicked isn't there.
>
> And a last note on the issue, is that I have managed to 'trick' the
> problem with a large file download on firefox by downloading it
> repeatedly and attempting to open a previous vanished download of the
> same file in the same destination as the current download reaches about
> a half-second from completion itself. Can't really explain how I am able
> to pull that one off.
>
> I've run virus scans, defrags, scandisk, scannow - none have been able
> to resolve the issue. I have disengaged virus protections, firewalls,
> security settings, and (re)activated them as well - also to no effect. I
> have used system restore to go back nearly a full week before the
> problem was noticed(and given how often to download this or that, I
> don't imagine the problem existed very long at all before I noticed it)
> - also ineffective.
>
> I have not made any changes or installed any new hardware at the time
> of this error, though I did update drivers to my monitor in between the
> time that downloads worked fine and when they 'vanish', but how that
> could have had any impact on downloads is unclear. I have all files
> unhidden, and have used the command prompt to scour the destinations for
> any trace of the files and still have found none. And this is perhaps
> the single most perplexing part of the whole problem, because checking
> of the free space and properties of my C: drive show the free space gone
> equal to the amount of the downloads, but they remain nowhere to be
> seen.
>
> Thanks for any help with this issue while I continue to scour heaven
> and hell to find where these files go!
>
>




Right click on the folder you download to

and see if "restore previous versions"

shows the files
 
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whs
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      01-02-2010

Turn the firewall off - for a test

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Tom Allen
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      01-02-2010
"Daggoth" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'll start by pointing out that I am by no means a rookie with
> computers. I've used and done troubleshooting on PCs for quite a
> while.
> Be that as it may, this issue is a new one to me and simply beyond me.
>
> Whenever I attempt to download a file via either of my internet
> browsers(IE/Firefox) the files simply vanish. I can watch the files
> download and observe the progress bar. I can even repeatedly select
> the
> un-finished files I'm downloading and check their properties and
> confirm
> the files are the same size as the progress bar indicates. However,
> the
> moment the download finishes, the files simply cease to exist. The
> icon
> vanishes from the destination directory. It does not appear in any
> other
> directory, and any uses of search of the entirety of the hard drive
> for
> the filename of the vanished file come up empty.
>
> Perhaps even less sensible, repeated attempts to download the same
> file
> will sometimes result and a .part portion of the file remaining
> present
> in the destination, but any attempt to delete the file results in an
> error message telling me the file is not present, verify the location
> and try again. Weird given that I can right click the .part and select
> delete or drag it into a recycling bin only to be told the file I just
> clicked isn't there.
>
> And a last note on the issue, is that I have managed to 'trick' the
> problem with a large file download on firefox by downloading it
> repeatedly and attempting to open a previous vanished download of the
> same file in the same destination as the current download reaches
> about
> a half-second from completion itself. Can't really explain how I am
> able
> to pull that one off.
>
> I've run virus scans, defrags, scandisk, scannow - none have been able
> to resolve the issue. I have disengaged virus protections, firewalls,
> security settings, and (re)activated them as well - also to no effect.
> I
> have used system restore to go back nearly a full week before the
> problem was noticed(and given how often to download this or that, I
> don't imagine the problem existed very long at all before I noticed
> it)
> - also ineffective.
>
> I have not made any changes or installed any new hardware at the time
> of this error, though I did update drivers to my monitor in between
> the
> time that downloads worked fine and when they 'vanish', but how that
> could have had any impact on downloads is unclear. I have all files
> unhidden, and have used the command prompt to scour the destinations
> for
> any trace of the files and still have found none. And this is perhaps
> the single most perplexing part of the whole problem, because checking
> of the free space and properties of my C: drive show the free space
> gone
> equal to the amount of the downloads, but they remain nowhere to be
> seen.
>
> Thanks for any help with this issue while I continue to scour heaven
> and hell to find where these files go!
>
>
> --
> Daggoth



Try making the site from which you are downloading a 'tusted site'. This
can allow the normal 'save as' dialogue instead of the file going to the
temporary hidden storage. Protected mode off or some security loosening
but I can't remember what and I have a vague recollection of temp
internet files being involved in the hiding of the files.

Tom


 
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R. C. White
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      01-04-2010
Hi, Daggoth.

I don't know which "forum" you posted to, but that forum simply relayed your
post, via the "vBulletin USENET gateway" to this newsgroup on the Microsoft
public news server (Usenet), where I am reading it, along with a half-dozen
replies so far. You could "cut out the middleman" and post here directly
simply by clicking here:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof....vista.general

As to your actual problem: There are at least a couple of approaches that
should find your missing downloaded files.

First, just try to download the same file again. This time, watch CLOSELY
to see where IE8 proposes to save it; note both the pathname and the
downloaded filename, since the file doesn't always have the same name as the
program itself. You don't need to actually do the download again; just get
far enough to see where IE8 plans to put it. Since IE's setting for this is
persistent, it will propose to put the new download into the same location
where it put the last one. When you can read that pathname, use Windows
Explorer to look for your previously-downloaded file there.

Second, if that doesn't work, it may be time to bring out the big gun: Dir
/s /a

First, have ready at least the first few characters of the filename of the
file that you've lost; let's use "ABC*" as an example. Then Open a Command
Prompt window (Cmd.exe). At the prompt, enter:

Dir C:\abc* /s /a

Since you are "not a rookie", you probably know but, just in case:
Dir is the Directory command from MS-DOS days, before "directories" became
"folders". It lists all the files and folders in a directory. For a
"mini-Help" screen showing the commands and parameters available with it,
just type: Dir /?

The C:\ starts the directory listing in the Root of Drive C:. The "abc" is
the start of the filename; upper/lowercase doesn't matter. The "*" is a
wildcard that shows all files that start with "abc", no matter what the rest
of the filename is. The /s switch lists all files in all subfolders of the
starting directory. And the /a lists ALL files, no matter what Attributes
(Hidden, System, etc.) may have been set. If the "abc*" file is anywhere on
Drive C:, this command will list it.

If your file isn't on C:, try D:, E:, etc., of course. If a drive has just
a few large files, Dir will be quick. If the drive has thousands of files
(emails or .nws files, for example), then it can take a long time, so be
patient.

If neither of these work, please post back and tell us, step by step, what
you did and what results you saw. As you know, "tried it" doesn't tell us
much; neither does "didn't work".

RC
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San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Daggoth" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'll start by pointing out that I am by no means a rookie with
> computers. I've used and done troubleshooting on PCs for quite a while.
> Be that as it may, this issue is a new one to me and simply beyond me.
>
> Whenever I attempt to download a file via either of my internet
> browsers(IE/Firefox) the files simply vanish. I can watch the files
> download and observe the progress bar. I can even repeatedly select the
> un-finished files I'm downloading and check their properties and confirm
> the files are the same size as the progress bar indicates. However, the
> moment the download finishes, the files simply cease to exist. The icon
> vanishes from the destination directory. It does not appear in any other
> directory, and any uses of search of the entirety of the hard drive for
> the filename of the vanished file come up empty.
>
> Perhaps even less sensible, repeated attempts to download the same file
> will sometimes result and a .part portion of the file remaining present
> in the destination, but any attempt to delete the file results in an
> error message telling me the file is not present, verify the location
> and try again. Weird given that I can right click the .part and select
> delete or drag it into a recycling bin only to be told the file I just
> clicked isn't there.
>
> And a last note on the issue, is that I have managed to 'trick' the
> problem with a large file download on firefox by downloading it
> repeatedly and attempting to open a previous vanished download of the
> same file in the same destination as the current download reaches about
> a half-second from completion itself. Can't really explain how I am able
> to pull that one off.
>
> I've run virus scans, defrags, scandisk, scannow - none have been able
> to resolve the issue. I have disengaged virus protections, firewalls,
> security settings, and (re)activated them as well - also to no effect. I
> have used system restore to go back nearly a full week before the
> problem was noticed(and given how often to download this or that, I
> don't imagine the problem existed very long at all before I noticed it)
> - also ineffective.
>
> I have not made any changes or installed any new hardware at the time
> of this error, though I did update drivers to my monitor in between the
> time that downloads worked fine and when they 'vanish', but how that
> could have had any impact on downloads is unclear. I have all files
> unhidden, and have used the command prompt to scour the destinations for
> any trace of the files and still have found none. And this is perhaps
> the single most perplexing part of the whole problem, because checking
> of the free space and properties of my C: drive show the free space gone
> equal to the amount of the downloads, but they remain nowhere to be
> seen.
>
> Thanks for any help with this issue while I continue to scour heaven
> and hell to find where these files go!
>
>
> --
> Daggoth


 
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whs
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      01-04-2010

It could be a digital signature issue. Try this (in IE)
In internet options> advanced tab> scroll down to security. You wil
see a box that says: “Check downloaded programs for digita
signature”. Just uncheck it; and if it's a digital signatur
issue, the IE will let it continue

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