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      08-27-2009

hi
I have a problem with Vista business 64 bit edition.
I have this PC from about a year. Normally it worked good, but when
tried to play games it throw a BSOD, mostly wit
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. I made some tests and it look like damage
third memory slot. I returned it for guaranty. As i supposed motherboar
ASUS P5QL was damaged, and they give me new ASUS P5Q PRO. I installe
new drivers (windows did it by him self). I've tested ram with vist
tool, Windows version of memtest, and bootable memtest it was OK.
I launched game and played for 2-3 hours and it was ok.

Last month i started playing, and games started to generate BSOD's wit
many informations MEMORY _MANAGMENT, IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. I've tested RAM again 2 memtests on eac
stick, and 3 passes of extended vista memory diagnostic, and no errors
I have 8 GB , so I even tried to remove one or 2 sticks of memory but i
didn't help. I've updated all drivers, updated BIOS, but errors stil
appear. With random frequency, once i can play for 3-4 hours with n
problem, and next time BSOD after 30 minutes.
And from last week windows started generating BSOD on simple actions
surfing web, listening to music so it started to be very annoying. And
have no idea what is causing it.

im posting last 9 minibumps

PC config
ASUS P5Q PRO
Intel core 2 quad q9550
4 sticks of KINGMAX 800 MHz 2GB
NVIDIA 9600 GT
PSU 400 W
ST3500320AS ATA Device

VISTA 64 bit business sp2
all Windows update patches installed

I found some people with similar problems and suggested action was PS
upgrade, but I calculated power on some website and my pc consumes 25
W, so my 400 should be sufficient.
I didn't overclock anything.
I had spare fan so I also pluged it in and directed its flow to memory
but it did no change.

thanks for any suggestion

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      08-27-2009
Try taking out the video card and using the onboard graphics. Try disabling
sound and other things like network card in the BIOS and see if that clears
the problem.

Also check your harddisk by typing in a command prompt
chkdsk c: /r

Also try (to repair damaged system files)
sfc /scannow

On the slim off chance that it is software related try

In Control Panel choose Problem Reports and Solutions (type problem in
Start's searchbox), right click your error and choose Check For Solution.
You can also examine the details.

In Administrative Tools choose Reliability and Performance Monitor and
choose Reliability Monitor (type Reliability in search on Start). This list
a chart of software installs, uninstalls, Windows updates, and crashes. See
if your crashes started happening after you installed or uninstalled
something.

PS Your minidump is not available to others outside of that web site you
posted from. You can view your post in Windows Mail by clicking
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof....vista.general

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"perp" <> wrote in message
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>
> hi
> I have a problem with Vista business 64 bit edition.
> I have this PC from about a year. Normally it worked good, but when i
> tried to play games it throw a BSOD, mostly with
> PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. I made some tests and it look like damaged
> third memory slot. I returned it for guaranty. As i supposed motherboard
> ASUS P5QL was damaged, and they give me new ASUS P5Q PRO. I installed
> new drivers (windows did it by him self). I've tested ram with vista
> tool, Windows version of memtest, and bootable memtest it was OK.
> I launched game and played for 2-3 hours and it was ok.
>
> Last month i started playing, and games started to generate BSOD's with
> many informations MEMORY _MANAGMENT, IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL,
> PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. I've tested RAM again 2 memtests on each
> stick, and 3 passes of extended vista memory diagnostic, and no errors.
> I have 8 GB , so I even tried to remove one or 2 sticks of memory but it
> didn't help. I've updated all drivers, updated BIOS, but errors still
> appear. With random frequency, once i can play for 3-4 hours with no
> problem, and next time BSOD after 30 minutes.
> And from last week windows started generating BSOD on simple actions,
> surfing web, listening to music so it started to be very annoying. And I
> have no idea what is causing it.
>
> im posting last 9 minibumps
>
> PC config
> ASUS P5Q PRO
> Intel core 2 quad q9550
> 4 sticks of KINGMAX 800 MHz 2GB
> NVIDIA 9600 GT
> PSU 400 W
> ST3500320AS ATA Device
>
> VISTA 64 bit business sp2
> all Windows update patches installed
>
> I found some people with similar problems and suggested action was PSU
> upgrade, but I calculated power on some website and my pc consumes 250
> W, so my 400 should be sufficient.
> I didn't overclock anything.
> I had spare fan so I also pluged it in and directed its flow to memory,
> but it did no change.
>
> thanks for any suggestions
>
>
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
> |Filename: dump3.zip |
> |Download: 196 |
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>
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>


 
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      08-27-2009
I doubt your BSOD problem is software/OS related.
It may never have had anything to do with RAM or motherboard, but you had
those replaced.
The other 3 culprits: hard drive, power, heat.
You can software test your hard drive but that does not sound like the
problem.
Under the extreme conditions of extended 3d gaming heat and power are the
most likely causes of BSOD.
Software utilities like SpeedFan can tell you what temps are like based on
CPU sensors.
Simply adding fans is not enough. If you built this PC you have to make sure
that cables do not obstruct air flow. If you live in a hot climate your PC
is going to overheat playing 3d games unless you take specific steps.
You can try taking off the side of the case, possibly pointing an external
fan at the innards, and see if this gets you through an extended gaming
session.
I suspect your power supply is just not enough when your video card is
pumping out high volumes of data for extended periods. For heavy duty gaming
you should have at least a 600watt power supply from a quality, name brand
vendor. Under heavy load video cards can suck up enormous amounts of power.

Lastly, the cooling fans that come on video cards are often pretty crappy
and it may by your video card that is overheating. Zalman makes very good
replacement cooling fans for video cards that work better than the ones that
come on most cards.

 
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