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Frustrated loyal customer
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      07-22-2007
I have recently received the vista activation prompt after flashing my
motherboard BIOS with the latest version from DELL.

The only other things I have done today is downclocked my 7900GS to prevent
overheating (not a new card, oem from dell).

I exited a game of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and was greeted by the activation prompt
stating windows has detected a hardware change.

I understand that i can call microsoft on this issue to reactivate, however
this is a bug and needs to be fixed.

No Hardware was changed and both system tweaks (downclocking and flashing
BIOS are recommended by DELL and NVIDIA and my right). There is evidently
something wrong with the detection scheme.

Particularly since I shelled out for VISTA ultimate.
 
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Bob J
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      07-22-2007
You can not bypass activation, contact MS
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"Frustrated loyal customer" wrote:

> I have recently received the vista activation prompt after flashing my
> motherboard BIOS with the latest version from DELL.
>
> The only other things I have done today is downclocked my 7900GS to prevent
> overheating (not a new card, oem from dell).
>
> I exited a game of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and was greeted by the activation prompt
> stating windows has detected a hardware change.
>
> I understand that i can call microsoft on this issue to reactivate, however
> this is a bug and needs to be fixed.
>
> No Hardware was changed and both system tweaks (downclocking and flashing
> BIOS are recommended by DELL and NVIDIA and my right). There is evidently
> something wrong with the detection scheme.
>
> Particularly since I shelled out for VISTA ultimate.

 
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Mr. Arnold
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      07-22-2007

"Frustrated loyal customer" <Frustrated loyal
> wrote in message
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>I have recently received the vista activation prompt after flashing my
> motherboard BIOS with the latest version from DELL.


That probably did it.

What good is complaining here going to do for you?

Just call MS to have it activate it and be happy. There is no sense in
getting your blood pressure up about it. Life is too short and then you
die. So, don't get there any faster than you need to.

 
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Rick Rogers
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      07-22-2007
Hi,

While I don't disagree with you, keep in mind that a BIOS update is a change
of the instruction set written to the CMOS chip on the motherboard, one of
the basic components of any system and one that generally is not changed by
the average consumer. The activation scheme simply cannot tell that the
hardware has not changed, it simply sees a new set of instructions which can
easily be interpreted as a change in hardware.

I do think that the current activation scheme is too sensitive, overreacting
to things like this and driver updates. I'm hoping they eventually find a
happy medium that both reduces piracy and keeps the inconveniences on the
user to a minimum. In my opinion, activation should not interfere with the
user experience on a properly licensed machine, but currently it does with
too much regularity.

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"Frustrated loyal customer" <Frustrated loyal
> wrote in message
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>I have recently received the vista activation prompt after flashing my
> motherboard BIOS with the latest version from DELL.
>
> The only other things I have done today is downclocked my 7900GS to
> prevent
> overheating (not a new card, oem from dell).
>
> I exited a game of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and was greeted by the activation prompt
> stating windows has detected a hardware change.
>
> I understand that i can call microsoft on this issue to reactivate,
> however
> this is a bug and needs to be fixed.
>
> No Hardware was changed and both system tweaks (downclocking and flashing
> BIOS are recommended by DELL and NVIDIA and my right). There is evidently
> something wrong with the detection scheme.
>
> Particularly since I shelled out for VISTA ultimate.


 
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Alias
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      07-22-2007
Rick Rogers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> While I don't disagree with you, keep in mind that a BIOS update is a
> change of the instruction set written to the CMOS chip on the
> motherboard, one of the basic components of any system and one that
> generally is not changed by the average consumer. The activation scheme
> simply cannot tell that the hardware has not changed, it simply sees a
> new set of instructions which can easily be interpreted as a change in
> hardware.
>
> I do think that the current activation scheme is too sensitive,
> overreacting to things like this and driver updates. I'm hoping they
> eventually find a happy medium that both reduces piracy and keeps the
> inconveniences on the user to a minimum. In my opinion, activation
> should not interfere with the user experience on a properly licensed
> machine, but currently it does with too much regularity.
>


And once again paying customers are inconvenienced and the pirates are
not affected one iota. Instead of discouraging piracy, these features
lead people to alternative OSs.

Sad.

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Alias
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      07-22-2007
Mr. Arnold wrote:
>
> "Frustrated loyal customer" <Frustrated loyal
> > wrote in message
> news:86307495-63AC-4931-AEC5-...
>> I have recently received the vista activation prompt after flashing my
>> motherboard BIOS with the latest version from DELL.

>
> That probably did it.
>
> What good is complaining here going to do for you?
>
> Just call MS to have it activate it and be happy. There is no sense in
> getting your blood pressure up about it. Life is too short and then you
> die. So, don't get there any faster than you need to.
>


You're right, life is short and one should not have to take the time out
of this short life to prove one bought something over and over and over
and over again.

Alias
 
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Frank
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      07-22-2007
Alias wrote:

>
> And once again paying customers are inconvenienced and the pirates are
> not affected one iota. Instead of discouraging piracy, these features
> lead people to alternative OSs.
>
> Sad.
>
> Alias


No that's not true at all. Activation stops "casual piracy"...a practice
that heretofore had been rather prevalent amongst Windows users. "Casual
piracy" stops a legitimate Vista OS owner from "loaning" his copy to
anyone., i.e. friends, relatives, neighbors, etc..
Activation has put a sudden and most complete stop to "casual piracy".
After all, you yourself can't get a "loaner" to install Vista on your
machine, so activation is working to stop "casual piracy".
Also having to re-activate is not really near the hassle you would like
to make it out to be.
Frank
 
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Alias
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      07-22-2007
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>>
>> And once again paying customers are inconvenienced and the pirates are
>> not affected one iota. Instead of discouraging piracy, these features
>> lead people to alternative OSs.
>>
>> Sad.
>>
>> Alias

>
> No that's not true at all. Activation stops "casual piracy"...a practice
> that heretofore had been rather prevalent amongst Windows users. "Casual
> piracy" stops a legitimate Vista OS owner from "loaning" his copy to
> anyone., i.e. friends, relatives, neighbors, etc..


People inclined to do that now use cracked copies. Oops.

> Activation has put a sudden and most complete stop to "casual piracy".


People inclined to do that now use cracked copies. Oops.

> After all, you yourself can't get a "loaner" to install Vista on your
> machine, so activation is working to stop "casual piracy".
> Also having to re-activate is not really near the hassle you would like
> to make it out to be.
> Frank


It's an insult to every paying customer and does nothing to stop piracy
be it casual or for profit.

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Frank
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      07-22-2007
Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> And once again paying customers are inconvenienced and the pirates
>>> are not affected one iota. Instead of discouraging piracy, these
>>> features lead people to alternative OSs.
>>>
>>> Sad.
>>>
>>> Alias

>>
>>
>> No that's not true at all. Activation stops "casual piracy"...a
>> practice that heretofore had been rather prevalent amongst Windows
>> users. "Casual piracy" stops a legitimate Vista OS owner from
>> "loaning" his copy to anyone., i.e. friends, relatives, neighbors, etc..

>
>
> People inclined to do that now use cracked copies. Oops.
>


That's not "casual piracy".
Oooooppppssss!!!


>> Activation has put a sudden and most complete stop to "casual piracy".

>
>
> People inclined to do that now use cracked copies. Oops.
>

That's not "casual piracy".
Oooooppppssss!!!

>> After all, you yourself can't get a "loaner" to install Vista on your
>> machine, so activation is working to stop "casual piracy".
>> Also having to re-activate is not really near the hassle you would
>> like to make it out to be.
>> Frank

>
>
> It's an insult to every paying customer and does nothing to stop piracy
> be it casual or for profit.
>


Oh? It may be an insult to someone like you but guess again because
activation has stopped "casual piracy". Like it or not.
It stopped you didn't it?
You have a really hard time accepting the truth don't you?
Frank











 
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Alias
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      07-22-2007
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And once again paying customers are inconvenienced and the pirates
>>>> are not affected one iota. Instead of discouraging piracy, these
>>>> features lead people to alternative OSs.
>>>>
>>>> Sad.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> No that's not true at all. Activation stops "casual piracy"...a
>>> practice that heretofore had been rather prevalent amongst Windows
>>> users. "Casual piracy" stops a legitimate Vista OS owner from
>>> "loaning" his copy to anyone., i.e. friends, relatives, neighbors, etc..

>>
>>
>> People inclined to do that now use cracked copies. Oops.
>>

>
> That's not "casual piracy".
> Oooooppppssss!!!


You're an idiot. Once the casual "pirates" found out they couldn't
share, they went for cracked copies.
>
>
>>> Activation has put a sudden and most complete stop to "casual piracy".

>>
>>
>> People inclined to do that now use cracked copies. Oops.
>>

> That's not "casual piracy".
> Oooooppppssss!!!


You're an idiot. Once the casual "pirates" found out they couldn't
share, they went for cracked copies

>>> After all, you yourself can't get a "loaner" to install Vista on your
>>> machine, so activation is working to stop "casual piracy".
>>> Also having to re-activate is not really near the hassle you would
>>> like to make it out to be.
>>> Frank

>>
>>
>> It's an insult to every paying customer and does nothing to stop
>> piracy be it casual or for profit.
>>

>
> Oh? It may be an insult to someone like you but guess again because
> activation has stopped "casual piracy". Like it or not.
> It stopped you didn't it?


How can it stop me when I pay for all the software I use?

> You have a really hard time accepting the truth don't you?
> Frank


When it's the truth, yes. Most things you post are lies so, naturally,
there can't be accepted.

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