Vista and Terminal Services?

I've heard some Vista features such as Aero will not show up on Remote
Desktop when going from an XP box to a Vista box.

What is the difference in using Terminal Services vs. Remote Desktop? Does
it lack any Vista features for the above setup?

I'm guessing Vista to Vista is the best way to go for getting full benefits?

Thanks,
Brett

Hi Brett,

Correct, the Aero interface does not work over the RD protocol. RD relies on
terminal services to work, there's no real differences here. Certain
features rely on direct generation from the hardware, it's not something you
can do over a lan. An example is Aero, the graphics card on the machine
being accessed is not used over the lan, the display is generated by the
system doing the accessing. The Aero effect is generated directly on the
system that houses the OS, not the remote machine.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Brett" <public_at_cygen_dot_com> wrote in message
news:%23B9aW$...
> I've heard some Vista features such as Aero will not show up on Remote
> Desktop when going from an XP box to a Vista box.
>
> What is the difference in using Terminal Services vs. Remote Desktop?
> Does it lack any Vista features for the above setup?
>
> I'm guessing Vista to Vista is the best way to go for getting full
> benefits?
>
> Thanks,
> Brett
>

Thanks Rick. So even if both machines have Vista and capable video cards,
when I access VistaB machine via RD, I still won't see Aero in the RD
window? I'm guessing that will be the only feature not available through
RD. 3D and flip should be there right?

Once I have my setup configured, I'll post back what the experience is like.

Thanks,
Brett

"Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi Brett,
>
> Correct, the Aero interface does not work over the RD protocol. RD relies
> on terminal services to work, there's no real differences here. Certain
> features rely on direct generation from the hardware, it's not something
> you can do over a lan. An example is Aero, the graphics card on the
> machine being accessed is not used over the lan, the display is generated
> by the system doing the accessing. The Aero effect is generated directly
> on the system that houses the OS, not the remote machine.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Brett" <public_at_cygen_dot_com> wrote in message
> news:%23B9aW$...
>> I've heard some Vista features such as Aero will not show up on Remote
>> Desktop when going from an XP box to a Vista box.
>>
>> What is the difference in using Terminal Services vs. Remote Desktop?
>> Does it lack any Vista features for the above setup?
>>
>> I'm guessing Vista to Vista is the best way to go for getting full
>> benefits?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brett
>>
>

Hi Brett,

3D doesn't seem to be fully functional either (it's part of the explorer
shell also relying on video). I would be interested to hear the results of
your setup.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Brett" <public_at_cygen_dot_com> wrote in message
news:...
> Thanks Rick. So even if both machines have Vista and capable video cards,
> when I access VistaB machine via RD, I still won't see Aero in the RD
> window? I'm guessing that will be the only feature not available through
> RD. 3D and flip should be there right?
>
> Once I have my setup configured, I'll post back what the experience is
> like.
>
> Thanks,
> Brett
>
> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hi Brett,
>>
>> Correct, the Aero interface does not work over the RD protocol. RD relies
>> on terminal services to work, there's no real differences here. Certain
>> features rely on direct generation from the hardware, it's not something
>> you can do over a lan. An example is Aero, the graphics card on the
>> machine being accessed is not used over the lan, the display is generated
>> by the system doing the accessing. The Aero effect is generated directly
>> on the system that houses the OS, not the remote machine.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Brett" <public_at_cygen_dot_com> wrote in message
>> news:%23B9aW$...
>>> I've heard some Vista features such as Aero will not show up on Remote
>>> Desktop when going from an XP box to a Vista box.
>>>
>>> What is the difference in using Terminal Services vs. Remote Desktop?
>>> Does it lack any Vista features for the above setup?
>>>
>>> I'm guessing Vista to Vista is the best way to go for getting full
>>> benefits?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brett
>>>
>>
>
>

Will do. I'll try to put up a video so people can see what is going on.

Brett

"Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi Brett,
>
> 3D doesn't seem to be fully functional either (it's part of the explorer
> shell also relying on video). I would be interested to hear the results of
> your setup.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Brett" <public_at_cygen_dot_com> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Thanks Rick. So even if both machines have Vista and capable video
>> cards, when I access VistaB machine via RD, I still won't see Aero in the
>> RD window? I'm guessing that will be the only feature not available
>> through RD. 3D and flip should be there right?
>>
>> Once I have my setup configured, I'll post back what the experience is
>> like.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brett
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Hi Brett,
>>>
>>> Correct, the Aero interface does not work over the RD protocol. RD
>>> relies on terminal services to work, there's no real differences here.
>>> Certain features rely on direct generation from the hardware, it's not
>>> something you can do over a lan. An example is Aero, the graphics card
>>> on the machine being accessed is not used over the lan, the display is
>>> generated by the system doing the accessing. The Aero effect is
>>> generated directly on the system that houses the OS, not the remote
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>
>>> "Brett" <public_at_cygen_dot_com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23B9aW$...
>>>> I've heard some Vista features such as Aero will not show up on Remote
>>>> Desktop when going from an XP box to a Vista box.
>>>>
>>>> What is the difference in using Terminal Services vs. Remote Desktop?
>>>> Does it lack any Vista features for the above setup?
>>>>
>>>> I'm guessing Vista to Vista is the best way to go for getting full
>>>> benefits?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Brett
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Hello!

"Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message news:...
> Hi Brett,
>
> 3D doesn't seem to be fully functional either (it's part of the explorer shell also relying on video). I would be interested to
> hear the results of your setup.

http://blandname.com/2006/11/11/aero...rtual-machine/
"Glass over RDP? Believe it!"
http://www.tweakvista.com/Article38996.aspx
OTOH,
"What's wrong with the Remote Desktop Client in Vista?"
http://www.mstechtoday.com/2006/11/2...ient-in-vista/


Regards, Roman

> Once Vista is installed and configured for remote access from within VPC,
> all you need to do to get Aero Glass running is to connect to the virtual
> machine using the Remote Desktop Connection (RDP 6) client. If your host,
> or physical, machine supports Aero Glass, the virtual machine will allow
> you to take advantage of it, giving you transparent blurred windows,
> mouse-over taskbar previews, and cool windows+tab animation!
> [/quote]
>
> "Glass over RDP? Believe it!"
> http://www.tweakvista.com/Article38996.aspx
> [quote]

I've read the article and it seems there isn't anything in particular the
remote machine needs to do. However, it isn't working. When I'm at the
Vista machine, Aero and 3D Flip work. On the remote XP machine, I have an
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5700 with 128MB memory. That should do fine but no Aero
or Flip. When I hit the Window key + tab, it just tabs around in the
current window or highlights applications running on the task bar.

Brett