Vista and Ubuntu?

Without trying to create controversy, but simply with the desire to use both
OS's on the same machine:

Installed: Dell motivated Vista Home Premium, SP1, 32 bit.
Capacity: Dual core Inspiron & 300GB HD, w. MS Virual PC (39MB, I believe),
290 GB C: w. Vista installed and 10 GB D: for recovery.

My question is: can I safely install ubuntu, v.7.10, in the virtual pc, with
the intention to dual boot?

Any comments greatly appreciated.

Harry.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:51:27 -0500, webster72n wrote:

> Without trying to create controversy, but simply with the desire to use
> both OS's on the same machine:
>
> Installed: Dell motivated Vista Home Premium, SP1, 32 bit. Capacity:
> Dual core Inspiron & 300GB HD, w. MS Virual PC (39MB, I believe), 290 GB
> C: w. Vista installed and 10 GB D: for recovery.
>
> My question is: can I safely install ubuntu, v.7.10, in the virtual pc,
> with the intention to dual boot?
>
> Any comments greatly appreciated.
>
> Harry.

You can easily and safely install it in a virtual machine - you could
also install a dual boot (which is not quite the same thing). There are
those who would argue it makes more sense to make Linux the host than MS
- since, they would claim, Linux is much more stable to begin with.

How are you running VirtualPC on home edition? When I tried it, it
complained. Said I needed professional or something to that accord?

Pete

"Peter Dickason" <> wrote in message
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> How are you running VirtualPC on home edition? When I tried it, it
> complained. Said I needed professional or something to that accord?

Didn't run it yet, although it is ready for use, without 'professional
assistance' or something.
All I would have to do is, insert the Ubuntu disk for installation.
But I want to be aware of any traps, if existing.
The only thing I remember from the installation of Virtual PC is, that it
supposedly isn't compatible with WinVista and which can safely be ignored.

>
> Pete
>

"measekite" <> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:51:27 -0500, webster72n wrote:
>
>> Without trying to create controversy, but simply with the desire to use
>> both
>> OS's on the same machine:
>>
>> Installed: Dell motivated Vista Home Premium, SP1, 32 bit.
>> Capacity: Dual core Inspiron & 300GB HD, w. MS Virual PC (39MB, I
>> believe),
>> 290 GB C: w. Vista installed and 10 GB D: for recovery.
>>
>> My question is: can I safely install ubuntu, v.7.10, in the virtual pc,
>> with
>> the intention to dual boot?
>
>
> Absolutely but you should not do that. You should download the liveCD for
> the latest version (code name intrepid) and it will work great. I did
> that will never go back to Windows. I just keep it around for an
> emergency.
>
> For example I had an issue after awhile in mounting my USB2 drive. The
> error msg said to do a chkdsk /f and reboot (I am using the crappy ntfs
> Windows OS on that drive. While I could do it in Linux I did not know the
> equivalent Linux command so I booted Windows and did it and then rebooted
> Linux and all is well.
>
> I would also look at other distros. Linux Mint, an offshoot of Ubuntu
> looks good and Fedora 10 looks even better. Fedora 10 has better printer
> support, lookd better and has other advantages.
>
> Fedora 11 should be out before June and they are working on a 20 second
> boot. Look how long crappy Windows takes and then you need to load an
> antivirus and other junk that slows down the sloooow OS.
>
> Fedora, Ubuntu, and OpenSuse have the largest communities and forums.
> Ubuntu has the largest but I hear that the fedora community is not far
> behind in size and more knowledgeable but I am sure both are find.
>
> And you do not have a company obsoleting their OS and other software to
> gouge you out of money. All of the software for Linux (95%) is totally
> free and the majority is about as good as Windows software.
>
> There are some exceptions like Photoshop is better than Gimp but Gimp is
> good enough.
>
> I have not tried this but Linux can run VMware and other software that
> will act as a virtual machine. This virtual machine can run Windows under
> Linux and Windows software on top of that. Then you do not have to
> reboot. The only disadvantage is that if you want to access the same data
> from both Windows and Linux you have to store it in an ntfs partition.
> NTFS is not as good as ext3 and the newer ext4 filesystems that is used by
> Linux.
>
> Hope this helps.

Fully appreciate your contribution up to this point with my gratitude, but
prefer to ignore the rest of your post, because of the content's
'irrelevancy'.
Will have to give your suggested 'direct' download/installation some thought
though...
Thanks,

Harry.

>
> Now Beware that this post will generate a reply from a couple of idiots
> that are extremely vulgar and cannot tolerate anybody saying anything they
> do not agree with.
>
> The first is Frank who posts under FBonWin7b1x64 and is also known as
> Frankie Crankie and has earned the title of Da Jerk.
>
> The other moron is Bill Yanaire who posts under a variety of different
> names like spankey de monkey, homer, kevpan815 etc and has earned
> nicknames like Da Baboon and Da LambChop amongst others. He also forges
> others names and posts under their name.
>
> If you keep posting and saying anything nice about Linux or things you do
> not like about Windows then they will try to bash you.
>
> Thought I would give you a heads up.
>
> Good luck on Linux. It is great.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Any comments greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Harry.

webster72n wrote:
> Without trying to create controversy, but simply with the desire to use
> both OS's on the same machine:
>
> Installed: Dell motivated Vista Home Premium, SP1, 32 bit.
> Capacity: Dual core Inspiron & 300GB HD, w. MS Virual PC (39MB, I
> believe), 290 GB C: w. Vista installed and 10 GB D: for recovery.
>
> My question is: can I safely install ubuntu, v.7.10, in the virtual pc,
> with the intention to dual boot?
>
> Any comments greatly appreciated.
>
> Harry.

Yes and no, don't bother wasting your time with using MS VPC 2007 in
combination with Linux. Rather use VMware or VirtualBox in order to
load Ubuntu (or any other linux distro for that matter) into a virtual
machine!

Something else of note is that running Ubuntu in a virtual machine is
not dual booting, it's running a virtual PC on your host (Vista) install.

--
"Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101

in a virtual machine it will be slow and you will not enjoy the 3d desktop.

if you burn it on a cd and then browse the cd a menu will pop up,
that allows you to install it along side windows and it creates a virtual
disk file that contains all the linux files.
The application that allows this is called WUBI and is a fantastic
technology.
It does this without partitioning your disk, and you can remove ubuntu from
the vista control panel programs and features icon.

It also creates an entry in your boot manager so you can choose which os you
want to work with.

this also is remove when you do the uninstall

this is the best way to try ubuntu other than using the live cd.

--
For tips, tricks and tutorials visit my blog below:
http://computerboom.blogspot.com

"webster72n" <> wrote in message
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> Without trying to create controversy, but simply with the desire to use
> both OS's on the same machine:
>
> Installed: Dell motivated Vista Home Premium, SP1, 32 bit.
> Capacity: Dual core Inspiron & 300GB HD, w. MS Virual PC (39MB, I
> believe), 290 GB C: w. Vista installed and 10 GB D: for recovery.
>
> My question is: can I safely install ubuntu, v.7.10, in the virtual pc,
> with the intention to dual boot?
>
> Any comments greatly appreciated.
>
> Harry.

"measekite" <> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:51:43 +0000, ray wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:51:27 -0500, webster72n wrote:
>>
>>> Without trying to create controversy, but simply with the desire to use
>>> both OS's on the same machine:
>>>
>>> Installed: Dell motivated Vista Home Premium, SP1, 32 bit. Capacity:
>>> Dual core Inspiron & 300GB HD, w. MS Virual PC (39MB, I believe), 290 GB
>>> C: w. Vista installed and 10 GB D: for recovery.
>>>
>>> My question is: can I safely install ubuntu, v.7.10, in the virtual pc,
>>> with the intention to dual boot?
>>>
>>> Any comments greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Harry.
>>
>> You can easily and safely install it in a virtual machine - you could
>> also install a dual boot (which is not quite the same thing). There are
>> those who would argue it makes more sense to make Linux the host than MS
>> - since, they would claim, Linux is much more stable to begin with.
>
> Because of the insecure Win OS dual boot is safer. I beleive that when
> Windows is running in a virtual machine under Linux the insecurities in
> Windows can expose Linux to some issues.

The only thing you believe is rubbing Da Lamb Chop on Da Baboon and
increasing Da Jerking Off Count.

"Peter Dickason" <> wrote in message
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> How are you running VirtualPC on home edition? When I tried it, it
> complained. Said I needed professional or something to that accord?
>
> Pete
>

Ignore the message and continue the installation.

"CBoom" <> wrote in message
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> in a virtual machine it will be slow and you will not enjoy the 3d
> desktop.
>
> if you burn it on a cd and then browse the cd a menu will pop up,
> that allows you to install it along side windows and it creates a virtual
> disk file that contains all the linux files.
> The application that allows this is called WUBI and is a fantastic
> technology.
> It does this without partitioning your disk, and you can remove ubuntu
> from the vista control panel programs and features icon.
>
> It also creates an entry in your boot manager so you can choose which os
> you want to work with.
>
> this also is remove when you do the uninstall
>
> this is the best way to try ubuntu other than using the live cd.
>
> --
> For tips, tricks and tutorials visit my blog below:
> http://computerboom.blogspot.com

I have 3 ver's. of ubuntu withe the latest one being 7.10 and the very
latest one on the way to me. When I loaded the cd on my WinME machine I was
able to start installation, but never finished, because my bios was too old,
as I later found out. Therefore it ought to be allright to install 'along
side' windows. Unless voices come up to caution against it, I probably will
do it.
Thanks for your and all other contributions so far and in the future.

Harry.

> "webster72n" <> wrote in message
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>> Without trying to create controversy, but simply with the desire to use
>> both OS's on the same machine:
>>
>> Installed: Dell motivated Vista Home Premium, SP1, 32 bit.
>> Capacity: Dual core Inspiron & 300GB HD, w. MS Virual PC (39MB, I
>> believe), 290 GB C: w. Vista installed and 10 GB D: for recovery.
>>
>> My question is: can I safely install ubuntu, v.7.10, in the virtual pc,
>> with the intention to dual boot?
>>
>> Any comments greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Harry.
>