Vista And Ubuntu

Hi All
Got a question , On my XP home machine I have been playin with ubuntu and
XP.
Ubuntu can see my XP drive but XP can't see the Ubuntu drive.
They are both on different hard drives. No duel boot.
Was wondering if Vista would have this problem to.
Vista and XP both are NTFS file system.
I just thought I would try Ubuntu , I know nothing about Lenoux.
thanks

--
Carl G

I've got my Ubuntu 7.04 running in a virtual machine (VirtualBox 1.4) and
can share files/folders/drives without any problems.

"Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi All
> Got a question , On my XP home machine I have been playin with ubuntu and
> XP.
> Ubuntu can see my XP drive but XP can't see the Ubuntu drive.
> They are both on different hard drives. No duel boot.
> Was wondering if Vista would have this problem to.
> Vista and XP both are NTFS file system.
> I just thought I would try Ubuntu , I know nothing about Lenoux.
> thanks
>
> --
> Carl G

I have a question. I have a Toyota that gets 17 miles per gallon and I was
thinking of getting a hybrid. Since my PC at home is running Vista, is this
a good thing to do?


"Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi All
> Got a question , On my XP home machine I have been playin with ubuntu and
> XP.
> Ubuntu can see my XP drive but XP can't see the Ubuntu drive.
> They are both on different hard drives. No duel boot.
> Was wondering if Vista would have this problem to.
> Vista and XP both are NTFS file system.
> I just thought I would try Ubuntu , I know nothing about Lenoux.
> thanks
>
> --
> Carl G

Carl G wrote:

> Hi All
> Got a question , On my XP home machine I have been playin with ubuntu and
> XP.
> Ubuntu can see my XP drive but XP can't see the Ubuntu drive.
> They are both on different hard drives. No duel boot.
> Was wondering if Vista would have this problem to.
> Vista and XP both are NTFS file system.
> I just thought I would try Ubuntu , I know nothing about Lenoux.
> thanks
>

Linux plays nice with many other operating systems' file formats. Windows on
the other hand only understands FAT(32) and NTFS.

There is a driver available for Windows that will allow XP to read and write
to Linux ext3 partitions. You could use this to retrieve/place data files
between the two operating systems from the Windows side. I wouldn't be
accessing areas outside of your home directory from Windows, as this is
where all the system files resides and screwing them up could harm your
system.

Just do a google search for the drivers. They are freeware. Whether there
are drivers available for Vista, I don't know?

Cheers.

"Bill Yanaire" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I have a question. I have a Toyota that gets 17 miles per gallon and I was
>thinking of getting a hybrid. Since my PC at home is running Vista, is
>this a good thing to do?
>

Yeah, but make sure the Hybrid isn't running Ubuntu or you'll get all sorts
of compatibility problems.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:40:20 -0500, Carl G wrote:

> Hi All
> Got a question , On my XP home machine I have been playin with ubuntu and
> XP.
> Ubuntu can see my XP drive but XP can't see the Ubuntu drive.
> They are both on different hard drives. No duel boot.
> Was wondering if Vista would have this problem to.
> Vista and XP both are NTFS file system.
> I just thought I would try Ubuntu , I know nothing about Lenoux.
> thanks
>

That is because Linux can support NTFS out of the box but Windows has no
support for Ext3. There is a 3rd party Ext2 driver for windows, which can
work with Ext3 volumes as well, though I personally wouldn't use it to
write to an Ext3 volume. For reading data only I suppose it's ok
(mostly...it doesn't support utf-8 which means it can't read any of my
directories / files that are in Japanese).

As far as NTFS from linux goes, same deal really. I only read from my NTFS
volumes, I never write to them. There is supposed to be a driver now that
has full and safe NTFS support but since Microsoft doesn't actually openly
publish the file system specs and could change them at any moment, I
wouldn't rely on it.

Really, cross-file system support, both from windows and linux is not all
that great. If you need a common ground that's safe for both operating
systems to play on, create a FAT32 partition or use an USB stick (which
again is formatted with FAT32).

FAT32 is about the only file system I'd consider safe for both operating
systems to share for writing to without concerns.

Note that this only applies to volumes in your local machine.

Accessing networked shares on windows machines, or vice versa, is *not* a
problem as all file system handling is done by the local machine and not
the foreign OS.

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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:40:20 -0500, Carl G wrote:

> Hi All
> Got a question , On my XP home machine I have been playin with ubuntu and
> XP.
> Ubuntu can see my XP drive but XP can't see the Ubuntu drive.
> They are both on different hard drives. No duel boot.

If they are booting on the same machine, it is a dual boot.

> Was wondering if Vista would have this problem to.
> Vista and XP both are NTFS file system.

Linux does not use ntfs or fat for it's file systems. You would first want
to know the filesystem type for your ubuntu install - it is probably
either ext2/3 or reiserfs. There are XP drivers available for both of
these - though I think the reiser is read-only. I have no idea whether
these have been ported to vista.

> I just thought I would try Ubuntu , I know nothing about Lenoux.
> thanks

That's Linux - and you're welcome.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:48:22 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:

> I have a question. I have a Toyota that gets 17 miles per gallon and I was
> thinking of getting a hybrid. Since my PC at home is running Vista, is this
> a good thing to do?

If your toyota only gets 17 miles per gallon, it should certainly be
replaced. My 95 Neon does about 30 in town, up to 44 highway. And my
Suzuki motorcycle (650 single) does 55 and 65.

>
>
> "Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hi All
>> Got a question , On my XP home machine I have been playin with ubuntu and
>> XP.
>> Ubuntu can see my XP drive but XP can't see the Ubuntu drive.
>> They are both on different hard drives. No duel boot.
>> Was wondering if Vista would have this problem to.
>> Vista and XP both are NTFS file system.
>> I just thought I would try Ubuntu , I know nothing about Lenoux.
>> thanks
>>
>> --
>> Carl G

Forgot to add - my VM runs on Vista.

"Mac" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I've got my Ubuntu 7.04 running in a virtual machine (VirtualBox 1.4) and
> can share files/folders/drives without any problems.
>
> "Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hi All
>> Got a question , On my XP home machine I have been playin with ubuntu and
>> XP.
>> Ubuntu can see my XP drive but XP can't see the Ubuntu drive.
>> They are both on different hard drives. No duel boot.
>> Was wondering if Vista would have this problem to.
>> Vista and XP both are NTFS file system.
>> I just thought I would try Ubuntu , I know nothing about Lenoux.
>> thanks
>>
>> --
>> Carl G
>

Thanks for the info guys.
Guess I might just dump ubuntu and keep playin with Vista and XP.
Thanks again

--
Carl G

"Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi All
> Got a question , On my XP home machine I have been playin with ubuntu and
> XP.
> Ubuntu can see my XP drive but XP can't see the Ubuntu drive.
> They are both on different hard drives. No duel boot.
> Was wondering if Vista would have this problem to.
> Vista and XP both are NTFS file system.
> I just thought I would try Ubuntu , I know nothing about Lenoux.
> thanks
>
> --
> Carl G