Vista annoyance# 467684 (versus WindowsXP)

"ROBERT MACK" <Nospam_MetalBlade@Nospam_Prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:%23tb9$...
> When I type a long article in Notepad & paste into WindowsMail line breaks
> become messed up, forcing me to go back to editing "business" and
> click/delete redundant line breaks as often as there're lines in a
> document, if it's 1000 lines, go ahead and spend time clicking for an
> hour!
> This make plain text editor unworkable In Vista +WindowsMail environment,
> due to weird linebreaks handling.
>
> Why do I claim it to be weird?
> BECAUSE IT WAS PERFECT IN WindowsXP. I could create a simple ad/artcile
> in Notepad, copy/paste into OutloookExpress --> Newsgroup posting or
> Email, and no linebreaks stupidity.
>
> Another hemorrhoid in Vista, sometimes I have a forbidden thought:
> If WinXP could live for another 10 years albeit with security updates &
> new hardware drivers that would be nice. When I hear "Vista" it causes
> heartburn.


Does the same happen in WordPad?


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I know some (Web) programmers use Notepad++ for plain ASCII. You may search
the Web for Notepad++.

Good luck.





"ROBERT MACK" <Nospam_MetalBlade@Nospam_Prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:#tb9$...
> When I type a long article in Notepad & paste into WindowsMail line breaks
> become messed up, forcing me to go back to editing "business" and
> click/delete redundant line breaks as often as there're lines in a
> document, if it's 1000 lines, go ahead and spend time clicking for an
> hour!
> This make plain text editor unworkable In Vista +WindowsMail environment,
> due to weird linebreaks handling.
>
> Why do I claim it to be weird?
> BECAUSE IT WAS PERFECT IN WindowsXP. I could create a simple ad/artcile
> in Notepad, copy/paste into OutloookExpress --> Newsgroup posting or
> Email, and no linebreaks stupidity.
>
> Another hemorrhoid in Vista, sometimes I have a forbidden thought:
> If WinXP could live for another 10 years albeit with security updates &
> new hardware drivers that would be nice. When I hear "Vista" it causes
> heartburn.

When I type a long article in Notepad & paste into WindowsMail line breaks
become messed up, forcing me to go back to editing "business" and
click/delete redundant line breaks as often as there're lines in a document,
if it's 1000 lines, go ahead and spend time clicking for an hour!
This make plain text editor unworkable In Vista +WindowsMail environment,
due to weird linebreaks handling.

Why do I claim it to be weird?
BECAUSE IT WAS PERFECT IN WindowsXP. I could create a simple ad/artcile in
Notepad, copy/paste into OutloookExpress --> Newsgroup posting or Email, and
no linebreaks stupidity.

Another hemorrhoid in Vista, sometimes I have a forbidden thought:
If WinXP could live for another 10 years albeit with security updates & new
hardware drivers that would be nice. When I hear "Vista" it causes
heartburn.

I don't know, I only use Notepad sometimes to avoid extra code over plain
ASCII
This is not as bad as File processing, Explorer bugs (statusbar?), Colors,
etc.

This is not a critical issue, but you know it makes it less convenient than
WinXP

On 10 Jun 2009, "xfile" <> wrote in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:

> I know some (Web) programmers use Notepad++ for plain ASCII. You
> may search the Web for Notepad++.

That's a very nice free text editor. I use it every day.

<http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/>

"ROBERT MACK" <Nospam_MetalBlade@Nospam_Prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:%23tb9$...
> When I type a long article in Notepad & paste into WindowsMail line
> breaks become messed up, forcing me to go back to editing "business"
> and click/delete redundant line breaks as often as there're lines in
> a document, if it's 1000 lines, go ahead and spend time clicking for
> an hour!
> This make plain text editor unworkable In Vista +WindowsMail
> environment, due to weird linebreaks handling.

I'm running Vista 64 home premium. The problem doesn't appear to be
in Notepad (or Wordpad) because copying text from them preserves the
proper line breaks when I insert text with very long lines into an
e-mail set to plain text or to Rich Text format. Do you get the
screwed up line breaks *as soon as* you cut/paste Notepad text into a
Windows Mail e-mail? (I don't.) Or do they only appear after another
operation, like hitting Send and opening it from the Out box or the
Sent box; or examining a received e-mail of it? (I do get that under
certain conditions, see below.) And while I haven't tested this as
throughly as the plain text format, sending pasted text in Rich Text
format seems to eliminate the whole problem. Compare your XP/OE and
Vista/WM settings. If you've been sending in Rich Text format from XP
but not from Vista then that's the source of the difference. In Rich
Text, uncommanded insertion of truncating line breaks don't even seem
to be an issue. Only hard ENTER breaks will affect the lines. So set
WM to send in Rich Text.

Getting back to plain text format, if the extra line breaks do not
appear *as soon as* you insert the text, it may still just be your
Windows Mail settings. If you still want to send in plain text
format, in WM do Tools/Options/Send. In Mail Sending Format select
Plain Text. What value is Automatically Wrap Text set at? Probably
its default setting of 60 or 65. If you're sending e-mail in plain
text format, there's the problem (and the partial cure).

Raise it to its max value of 132. Any e-mail sent in plain text
format won't break until it exceeds 132 characters per line. Editing
any line in excess of 132 to eliminate unwanted line breaks in the
received e-mail shouldn't be too much of a chore for the recipient.
You just can't fix it before sending it, only after it's received.
And while that won't prevent breaking up long paragraphs of article
text, it will reduce the amount of editing. But the same
132-character plain text format limitation applies to OE in XP, at
least my copy of it (see next). So I'm wondering if you hadn't been
using Rich Text format in your OE/XP.

OE set to plain text format behaves the same way in XP. Inserting
text copied from Notepad into an OE e-mail keeps all the proper line
breaks. But if the plain text setting for Automatically Wrap Text is
set at 60 it will wrap all lines at 60 when you send it as plain text.
You don't see this, though, until you send it. If you open it after
hitting Send but while it's still in the Out box, or open the version
in the Sent folder, you'll see all the lines truncated at 60 or
whatever. So that's what your e-mail recipient will get. (And if
you're getting e-mailed code or other text with the same pattern, the
problem is with your sender's e-mail settings.) Even in XP I had to
change the auto-wrap to 132 so that only lines over 132 characters
would be truncated/wrapped. Try setting plain text formatting to its
minimum of 30 so that at least several lines of text will truncate
with an unwanted new line break. You won't see the 30-character
wrapping on the e-mail but then hit Send and open the version in the
Out or Sent folders. If that screwed up the Sent e-mail plain text
with all lines truncated at 30, then you now know the source of the
problem and the auto-wrap work-around should work at least as well in
Vista as it does in XP (which as I noted, isn't perfect).

If you're getting the screwed-up line breaks *as soon as* you paste
copied text from Notepad into an e-mail, then something else is at
work here and it's probably not inherent in WM, Notepad, or Vista.
Try immediately inserting the same offending text from the clipboard
into another program like Word where you can see if unwanted line
breaks are getting inserted there. If not, that will tell you that
the problem is specific to, although not necessarily a planned
"feature" of, inserting text into WM. Based on my tests here, if text
is getting screwed up as soon as you insert it, I'd suspect a
corrupted system file before condemning the whole OS. If the
extraneous line breaks appear when pasting the offending text into
Word, it might even be a clipboard problem.

On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, ROBERT MACK wrote about
Vista annoyance# 467684 (versus WindowsXP)

>
>
> I don't know, I only use Notepad sometimes to avoid extra code over plain
> ASCII
> This is not as bad as File processing, Explorer bugs (statusbar?), Colors,
> etc.
>
> This is not a critical issue, but you know it makes it less convenient than
> WinXP
>

Have you considering using http://www.textpad.com/ ? The main thing you
need to watch is the line length of each line. If your mail client is set
for a line length of 72 characters then in the text editor you need to use
the same line length. With other text editors you can justify a paragraph
and add or remove line breaks. You can also save the text in notepad and
then insert or import the text in a mail client for better results and not
having to reformat the entire article if there is a mistake.


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"ROBERT MACK" <Nospam_MetalBlade@Nospam_Prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:%23tb9$...
> When I type a long article in Notepad & paste into WindowsMail line breaks become
> messed up, forcing me to go back to editing "business" and click/delete redundant
> line breaks as often as there're lines in a document, if it's 1000 lines, go ahead
> and spend time clicking for an hour!
> This make plain text editor unworkable In Vista +WindowsMail environment, due to
> weird linebreaks handling.
>
> Why do I claim it to be weird?
> BECAUSE IT WAS PERFECT IN WindowsXP. I could create a simple ad/artcile in
> Notepad, copy/paste into OutloookExpress --> Newsgroup posting or Email, and no
> linebreaks stupidity.
>
> Another hemorrhoid in Vista, sometimes I have a forbidden thought:
> If WinXP could live for another 10 years albeit with security updates & new
> hardware drivers that would be nice. When I hear "Vista" it causes heartburn.

Hi,

I don't use it often enough to know its full features but I was told that
it's indeed a very nice text editor


"Nil" <> wrote in message
news:Xns9C267B5D2DF2nilch1@130.133.1.4...
> On 10 Jun 2009, "xfile" <> wrote in
> microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
>
>> I know some (Web) programmers use Notepad++ for plain ASCII. You
>> may search the Web for Notepad++.
>
> That's a very nice free text editor. I use it every day.
>
> <http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/>