Vista AVG8 and Vista

I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.

Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then
click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
What I see is:
AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
Windows Defender - ON

I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I
already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.

Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after uninstalling
Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security Center continued to
insist that the Antivir was installed and running (and even up-to-date),
despite the fact that I had thoroughly uninstalled it (to the point of
cleaning out everything I could find in the registry using the search
terms "Avira," and "Antivir." Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned
me that I had two anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with
one another. Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond
some kind of confusion in my Security Center.

Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my Security
Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for you. See:

http://www.pchell.com/support/multip...y_center.shtml

Daze

-------------------------------


AliceZ wrote:
> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
>
> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then
> click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> What I see is:
> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> Windows Defender - ON
>
> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I
> already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>
> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

#1- Was this done on your Vista system and did it clear-up the problem?
#2- If you hadn't done anything, there would really be nothing wrong with
your mn ,Vista computer, it would just be that Security Center was at fault.
And you could have just let ev*0erything remain "as is."
#3- What is the Security Center IIRC warning you received and what did you
do about that?+-*

Daze N. Knights" wrote:

> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after uninstalling
> Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security Center continued to
> insist that the Antivir was installed and running (and even up-to-date),
> despite the fact that I had thoroughly uninstalled it (to the point of
> cleaning out everything I could find in the registry using the search
> terms "Avira," and "Antivir." Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned
> me that I had two anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with
> one another. Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond
> some kind of confusion in my Security Center.
>
> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my Security
> Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for you. See:
>
> http://www.pchell.com/support/multip...y_center.shtml
>
> Daze
>
> -------------------------------
>
>
> AliceZ wrote:
> > I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
> >
> > Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then
> > click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> > What I see is:
> > AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> > AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> > Windows Defender - ON
> >
> > I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I
> > already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
> >
> > Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!
>

In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did that box
state:
"When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services will
also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
And did you just click OKAY?

"Daze N. Knights" wrote:

> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after uninstalling
> Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security Center continued to
> insist that the Antivir was installed and running (and even up-to-date),
> despite the fact that I had thoroughly uninstalled it (to the point of
> cleaning out everything I could find in the registry using the search
> terms "Avira," and "Antivir." Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned
> me that I had two anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with
> one another. Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond
> some kind of confusion in my Security Center.
>
> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my Security
> Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for you. See:
>
> http://www.pchell.com/support/multip...y_center.shtml
>
> Daze
>
> -------------------------------
>
>
> AliceZ wrote:
> > I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
> >
> > Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then
> > click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> > What I see is:
> > AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> > AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> > Windows Defender - ON
> >
> > I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I
> > already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
> >
> > Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!
>

"AliceZ" <> wrote in message
news:E2F28EB8-D467-4D24-9E0C-...
>I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
>
> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then
> click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> What I see is:
> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> Windows Defender - ON
>
> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer,
> I
> already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>
> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

You must update the definitions. Then the Security Center is satisfied.

Answered inline:

AliceZ wrote:
> #1- Was this done on your Vista system and did it clear-up the problem?

Yes.

> #2- If you hadn't done anything, there would really be nothing wrong with
> your mn ,Vista computer, it would just be that Security Center was at fault.
> And you could have just let ev*0erything remain "as is."

My best understanding is that the problem actually involved only the
Security Center (which I would describe as "confused"), not any of my
security programs or anything else.

> #3- What is the Security Center IIRC warning you received and what did you
> do about that?+-*

It's been a while and I don't recall exactly. First, I believe it gave
me some kind of warning about having two antivirus programs running.
Then, when I opened the Security Center, sure enough, it listed both my
current program (AVG) and the one that I had uninstalled (Antivir).

>
> Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>
>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after uninstalling
>> Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security Center continued to
>> insist that the Antivir was installed and running (and even up-to-date),
>> despite the fact that I had thoroughly uninstalled it (to the point of
>> cleaning out everything I could find in the registry using the search
>> terms "Avira," and "Antivir." Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned
>> me that I had two anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with
>> one another. Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond
>> some kind of confusion in my Security Center.
>>
>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my Security
>> Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for you. See:
>>
>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multip...y_center.shtml
>>
>> Daze
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>>
>> AliceZ wrote:
>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
>>>
>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then
>>> click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
>>> What I see is:
>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
>>> Windows Defender - ON
>>>
>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I
>>> already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if
it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than
a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system
backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I
should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of
time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad
that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a
healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.

AliceZ wrote:
> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did that box
> state:
> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services will
> also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"

I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although
I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when
I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message
before, as well.

> And did you just click OKAY?

If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I
did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to
me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in
order for the necessary changes to take place.)


>
> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>
>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after uninstalling
>> Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security Center continued to
>> insist that the Antivir was installed and running (and even up-to-date),
>> despite the fact that I had thoroughly uninstalled it (to the point of
>> cleaning out everything I could find in the registry using the search
>> terms "Avira," and "Antivir." Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned
>> me that I had two anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with
>> one another. Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond
>> some kind of confusion in my Security Center.
>>
>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my Security
>> Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for you. See:
>>
>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multip...y_center.shtml
>>
>> Daze
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>>
>> AliceZ wrote:
>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
>>>
>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then
>>> click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
>>> What I see is:
>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
>>> Windows Defender - ON
>>>
>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I
>>> already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

Oh, and BTW: Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could
instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for
instance, an XXX to its name), which would allow you to recover it if a
new one wasn't automatically recreated in the course of your finishing
the list of instructions. Once everything was seen it be A-OK in the
end, then you could finally go back and delete it.



Daze N. Knights wrote:
> Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if
> it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than
> a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system
> backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I
> should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of
> time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad
> that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a
> healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.
>
> AliceZ wrote:
>> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did
>> that box state:
>> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services
>> will also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
>
> I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although
> I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when
> I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message
> before, as well.
>
>> And did you just click OKAY?
>
> If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I
> did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to
> me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in
> order for the necessary changes to take place.)
>
>
>>
>> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>>
>>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after
>>> uninstalling Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security
>>> Center continued to insist that the Antivir was installed and running
>>> (and even up-to-date), despite the fact that I had thoroughly
>>> uninstalled it (to the point of cleaning out everything I could find
>>> in the registry using the search terms "Avira," and "Antivir."
>>> Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned me that I had two
>>> anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with one another.
>>> Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond some kind of
>>> confusion in my Security Center.
>>>
>>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my
>>> Security Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for
>>> you. See:
>>>
>>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multip...y_center.shtml
>>>
>>>
>>> Daze
>>>
>>> -------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> AliceZ wrote:
>>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed
>>>> AVG8.
>>>>
>>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and
>>>> then click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
>>>> What I see is:
>>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
>>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
>>>> Windows Defender - ON
>>>>
>>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed.
>>>> Howeveer, I already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

Many, many thanks.
Would you be able to answer the following please:
#1- Re: your: " I make regular full-system backups." How do you do this?

#2- Re: your: " Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could
instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for instance,
an XXX to its name"
How would this be done (for future reference, hope I don't have to do again)?

#3- I can gain access to these MS Community Boards when I sign in, on my
WinXP desktop. But, when I try to sign in on my Vista, I keep getting
returned to the original community page I was viewing. Would you know why I
can't sign in on the Vista?

Once again, thanks for all your kind help.
Alice


"Daze N. Knights" wrote:

> Oh, and BTW: Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could
> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for
> instance, an XXX to its name), which would allow you to recover it if a
> new one wasn't automatically recreated in the course of your finishing
> the list of instructions. Once everything was seen it be A-OK in the
> end, then you could finally go back and delete it.
>
>
>
> Daze N. Knights wrote:
> > Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if
> > it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than
> > a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system
> > backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I
> > should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of
> > time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad
> > that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a
> > healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.
> >
> > AliceZ wrote:
> >> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did
> >> that box state:
> >> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services
> >> will also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
> >
> > I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although
> > I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when
> > I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message
> > before, as well.
> >
> >> And did you just click OKAY?
> >
> > If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I
> > did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to
> > me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in
> > order for the necessary changes to take place.)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> >>
> >>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after
> >>> uninstalling Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security
> >>> Center continued to insist that the Antivir was installed and running
> >>> (and even up-to-date), despite the fact that I had thoroughly
> >>> uninstalled it (to the point of cleaning out everything I could find
> >>> in the registry using the search terms "Avira," and "Antivir."
> >>> Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned me that I had two
> >>> anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with one another.
> >>> Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond some kind of
> >>> confusion in my Security Center.
> >>>
> >>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my
> >>> Security Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for
> >>> you. See:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multip...y_center.shtml
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Daze
> >>>
> >>> -------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> AliceZ wrote:
> >>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed
> >>>> AVG8.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and
> >>>> then click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> >>>> What I see is:
> >>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> >>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> >>>> Windows Defender - ON
> >>>>
> >>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed.
> >>>> Howeveer, I already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!
>

Answers inline:

AliceZ wrote:
> Many, many thanks.
> Would you be able to answer the following please:
> #1- Re: your: " I make regular full-system backups." How do you do this?

I use Vista's "Complete PC Backup," which is only available in the
Business and Ultimate versions.

>
> #2- Re: your: " Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could
> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for instance,
> an XXX to its name"
> How would this be done (for future reference, hope I don't have to do again)?

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000846.htm

>
> #3- I can gain access to these MS Community Boards when I sign in, on my
> WinXP desktop. But, when I try to sign in on my Vista, I keep getting
> returned to the original community page I was viewing. Would you know why I
> can't sign in on the Vista?

No idea.

>
> Once again, thanks for all your kind help.
> Alice
>
>
> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>
>> Oh, and BTW: Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could
>> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for
>> instance, an XXX to its name), which would allow you to recover it if a
>> new one wasn't automatically recreated in the course of your finishing
>> the list of instructions. Once everything was seen it be A-OK in the
>> end, then you could finally go back and delete it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daze N. Knights wrote:
>>> Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if
>>> it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than
>>> a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system
>>> backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I
>>> should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of
>>> time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad
>>> that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a
>>> healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.
>>>
>>> AliceZ wrote:
>>>> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did
>>>> that box state:
>>>> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services
>>>> will also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
>>> I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although
>>> I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when
>>> I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message
>>> before, as well.
>>>
>>>> And did you just click OKAY?
>>> If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I
>>> did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to
>>> me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in
>>> order for the necessary changes to take place.)
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after
>>>>> uninstalling Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security
>>>>> Center continued to insist that the Antivir was installed and running
>>>>> (and even up-to-date), despite the fact that I had thoroughly
>>>>> uninstalled it (to the point of cleaning out everything I could find
>>>>> in the registry using the search terms "Avira," and "Antivir."
>>>>> Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned me that I had two
>>>>> anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with one another.
>>>>> Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond some kind of
>>>>> confusion in my Security Center.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my
>>>>> Security Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for
>>>>> you. See:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multip...y_center.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Daze
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AliceZ wrote:
>>>>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed
>>>>>> AVG8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and
>>>>>> then click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
>>>>>> What I see is:
>>>>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
>>>>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
>>>>>> Windows Defender - ON
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed.
>>>>>> Howeveer, I already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!