Vista Beta 2 Ultimate Edition w/o Glass?

Hi,

I just installed Windows Vista Beta 2 Ultimate Edition, everything is
working fine but I am not able to find the option to load up Glass. I am
wondering if this is due that I dont have proper display drivers for my
M400. The tablet is packed with a Intel 965GM Graphic Card (I know not the
most fancy card).

I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on this matter.

Thanks alot,

G.

I guess the key word for now is that they "will". I guess I got no choice to
wait

G.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
news:eJ%...
> To get AERO Glass, your video card needs to support the Windows Display
> Driver Model (WDDM), with a minimum of 64-MBs vRAM. If its shared system
> memory, it needs to be configured with a minimum of 1 GB dual channel
> memory, with 512 MBs going to OS.
>
> The Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 on both the Intel® 945G and
> Mobile
> Intel® 945GM Express Chipsets will support the Windows Vista Display
> Driver
> model (WDDM) drivers.
>
> http://www.intel.com/business/bss/pr...ons/mobile.htm
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> "George Spiro" <> wrote in message
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I just installed Windows Vista Beta 2 Ultimate Edition, everything is
>> working fine but I am not able to find the option to load up Glass. I am
>> wondering if this is due that I dont have proper display drivers for my
>> M400. The tablet is packed with a Intel 965GM Graphic Card (I know not
>> the most fancy card).
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on this matter.
>>
>> Thanks alot,
>>
>> G.
>>
>
>

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
> To get AERO Glass, your video card needs to support the Windows
> Display Driver Model (WDDM), with a minimum of 64-MBs vRAM. If its
> shared system memory, it needs to be configured with a minimum of 1
> GB dual channel memory, with 512 MBs going to OS.
>
> The Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 on both the Intel® 945G and
> Mobile Intel® 945GM Express Chipsets will support the Windows Vista
> Display Driver model (WDDM) drivers.
>
> http://www.intel.com/business/bss/pr...ons/mobile.htm

What's real interesting about this is that the new Core Duo Apple notebooks
(MacBook with the 950 graphics, MacBook Pro with the ATI X1600) may actually
be among the best mobiles for running the new microsoft operating system.


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I'm always surprised at "professionals" who STILL have to be asked "Have you
checked (event viewer / syslog)".

Maybe but there is not support from Intel. Intel once again being too lazy
to code some decent drivers.


"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+> wrote in message
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> Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
>> To get AERO Glass, your video card needs to support the Windows
>> Display Driver Model (WDDM), with a minimum of 64-MBs vRAM. If its
>> shared system memory, it needs to be configured with a minimum of 1
>> GB dual channel memory, with 512 MBs going to OS.
>>
>> The Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 on both the Intel® 945G and
>> Mobile Intel® 945GM Express Chipsets will support the Windows Vista
>> Display Driver model (WDDM) drivers.
>>
>> http://www.intel.com/business/bss/pr...ons/mobile.htm
>
> What's real interesting about this is that the new Core Duo Apple
> notebooks (MacBook with the 950 graphics, MacBook Pro with the ATI X1600)
> may actually be among the best mobiles for running the new microsoft
> operating system.
>
>
> --
> --
> Rob Moir, Microsoft MVP
> Blog Site - http://www.robertmoir.com
> Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
> http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
> I'm always surprised at "professionals" who STILL have to be asked "Have
> you checked (event viewer / syslog)".
>

Maybe they are just not ready with the drivers. I agree with Robert, those
MacBook Pro's are definitely vistable capable, all they need is WDDM drivers
for the graphics and we are set to go.
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"George Spiro" <> wrote in message
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> Maybe but there is not support from Intel. Intel once again being too lazy
> to code some decent drivers.
>
>
> "Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
>>> To get AERO Glass, your video card needs to support the Windows
>>> Display Driver Model (WDDM), with a minimum of 64-MBs vRAM. If its
>>> shared system memory, it needs to be configured with a minimum of 1
>>> GB dual channel memory, with 512 MBs going to OS.
>>>
>>> The Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 on both the Intel® 945G and
>>> Mobile Intel® 945GM Express Chipsets will support the Windows Vista
>>> Display Driver model (WDDM) drivers.
>>>
>>> http://www.intel.com/business/bss/pr...ons/mobile.htm
>>
>> What's real interesting about this is that the new Core Duo Apple
>> notebooks (MacBook with the 950 graphics, MacBook Pro with the ATI X1600)
>> may actually be among the best mobiles for running the new microsoft
>> operating system.
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Rob Moir, Microsoft MVP
>> Blog Site - http://www.robertmoir.com
>> Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
>> http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
>> I'm always surprised at "professionals" who STILL have to be asked "Have
>> you checked (event viewer / syslog)".
>>
>
>

George Spiro wrote:
> Maybe but there is not support from Intel. Intel once again being too
> lazy to code some decent drivers.

It's frustrating for all of us but I'd rather they took their time and did
it "right".

I doubt laziness is the reason for the delay. It wasn't until fairly late on
in the Windows XP beta cycle when lots of manufacturers started to get their
act together for drivers there. What with the new driver structure and the
changing spec of the product it isn't much of a push to see a company decide
to wait until things are clear before starting work on code.

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
> Maybe they are just not ready with the drivers. I agree with Robert,
> those MacBook Pro's are definitely vistable capable, all they need is
> WDDM drivers for the graphics and we are set to go.

I think ATI do them don't they? The Pro uses the ATI X1600 - should be good
to go already.

When Intel get around to the 950 drivers the MacBook non-pro should do fine
too. Just got one of these the other day in fact, it's one sweet machine.
I'm waiting for a memory upgrade I have on order before I install Windows of
any kind on it though.

rob

Yes, ATI is doing the graphics for most of the Intel Macs now, the PPC ones
used a combination of nVidia and ATI. Yep, the ATI drivers are definitely
available for the Radeon Mobility X1600, so AERO Glass should work just fine
on the MacBook Pro. Just that getting Vista installed on it is gonna be
hurdle and might not be supported until Apple bundles Boot Camp in OS 10.5
as an incentive upgrade.
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"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+> wrote in message
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> Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
>> Maybe they are just not ready with the drivers. I agree with Robert,
>> those MacBook Pro's are definitely vistable capable, all they need is
>> WDDM drivers for the graphics and we are set to go.
>
> I think ATI do them don't they? The Pro uses the ATI X1600 - should be
> good to go already.
>
> When Intel get around to the 950 drivers the MacBook non-pro should do
> fine too. Just got one of these the other day in fact, it's one sweet
> machine. I'm waiting for a memory upgrade I have on order before I install
> Windows of any kind on it though.
>
> rob
>
>
>

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
> Yes, ATI is doing the graphics for most of the Intel Macs now, the
> PPC ones used a combination of nVidia and ATI. Yep, the ATI drivers
> are definitely available for the Radeon Mobility X1600, so AERO Glass
> should work just fine on the MacBook Pro. Just that getting Vista
> installed on it is gonna be hurdle

I'll let you know as soon as my memory upgrade arrives and I can test it.

Looking forward to hearing your results.
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"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+> wrote in message
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> Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
>> Yes, ATI is doing the graphics for most of the Intel Macs now, the
>> PPC ones used a combination of nVidia and ATI. Yep, the ATI drivers
>> are definitely available for the Radeon Mobility X1600, so AERO Glass
>> should work just fine on the MacBook Pro. Just that getting Vista
>> installed on it is gonna be hurdle
>
> I'll let you know as soon as my memory upgrade arrives and I can test it.
>
>
>