Vista: Consistent in its ability to disappoint

In Sept 2007, I needed to replace a dying PC, and was excited to get my first
system with Vista pre-installed. The excitement began to wane within 10
minutes of the first boot. The overwhelming quantity of pre-installed crappy
demo applications became my first annoyance to deal with. I realize that this
is no fault of Micro$oft, but they should be made aware of how the computing
experience with Vista was severely diminished by Symantec junk and childish
Roxio applications.

The next barrier encountered was the Vista version: Home Premium. Having
come from XP Pro, the absence of a professional environment was fairly
obvious. In an attempt to regain a professional environment, I purchased an
upgrade to Ultimate. The disappointment continued as I began to find that
some of my favorite utilities (eg. defrag) had been drastically dumbed down.
Further more, even as an administrator, there seemed to be far too many areas
of the file system where access is denied. Even a simple network card status
check has been made convoluted.

The biggest annoyance Vista offered was a complete loss of productivity in
my audio engineering environment. My new hardware is at least 3 times more
powerful than the box I replaced, and yet it took nearly 3 months to get the
new Vista system to perform ALMOST as well as the old system. ALMOST!

The list goes on and on...ridiculously slow file operations, sketchy VPN
client, flakey Media Center, etc.

With the release of Vista SP1, Micro$oft has remained consistent in its
ability to disappoint. I can't install it. Error code 0x80073712. Even after
following the suggestions found at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=101139 the closest I get to any clue
is in the CBC.log. Personally, I no longer have the patience to try and
decode the log and can find no obvious reason for SP1's stubborn behavior.
Further reading suggests that the only way to "possibly" resolve this issue
is to re-install Vista. Six months after beginning my Vista experience, I am
sick and tired of this OS, and if I need to re-install anything, it won't be
Vista.

In my professional life, I support over 2000 Windows users, and make a
concerted effort to stay current regarding operating systems. From this point
forward, in good conscience, I can not recommend Vista to any of my clients.
It's beginning to smell like Windows ME.

If Vista Is A Piece Of Crap, Just FYI, And Giving You Problems, You Should
Revert Back To Windows XP. XP Seems To Be Stable And Works With Most
Applications. Just FYI. Wait Until SP2 Is Released Before Going Back To
Vista. Just FYI


"Paul Wicks" <> wrote in message
news:340BBA82-9401-42FA-BA9F-...
> In Sept 2007, I needed to replace a dying PC, and was excited to get my
> first
> system with Vista pre-installed. The excitement began to wane within 10
> minutes of the first boot. The overwhelming quantity of pre-installed
> crappy
> demo applications became my first annoyance to deal with. I realize that
> this
> is no fault of Micro$oft, but they should be made aware of how the
> computing
> experience with Vista was severely diminished by Symantec junk and
> childish
> Roxio applications.
>
> The next barrier encountered was the Vista version: Home Premium. Having
> come from XP Pro, the absence of a professional environment was fairly
> obvious. In an attempt to regain a professional environment, I purchased
> an
> upgrade to Ultimate. The disappointment continued as I began to find that
> some of my favorite utilities (eg. defrag) had been drastically dumbed
> down.
> Further more, even as an administrator, there seemed to be far too many
> areas
> of the file system where access is denied. Even a simple network card
> status
> check has been made convoluted.
>
> The biggest annoyance Vista offered was a complete loss of productivity in
> my audio engineering environment. My new hardware is at least 3 times more
> powerful than the box I replaced, and yet it took nearly 3 months to get
> the
> new Vista system to perform ALMOST as well as the old system. ALMOST!
>
> The list goes on and on...ridiculously slow file operations, sketchy VPN
> client, flakey Media Center, etc.
>
> With the release of Vista SP1, Micro$oft has remained consistent in its
> ability to disappoint. I can't install it. Error code 0x80073712. Even
> after
> following the suggestions found at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=101139 the closest I get to any
> clue
> is in the CBC.log. Personally, I no longer have the patience to try and
> decode the log and can find no obvious reason for SP1's stubborn behavior.
> Further reading suggests that the only way to "possibly" resolve this
> issue
> is to re-install Vista. Six months after beginning my Vista experience, I
> am
> sick and tired of this OS, and if I need to re-install anything, it won't
> be
> Vista.
>
> In my professional life, I support over 2000 Windows users, and make a
> concerted effort to stay current regarding operating systems. From this
> point
> forward, in good conscience, I can not recommend Vista to any of my
> clients.
> It's beginning to smell like Windows ME.
>

Paul Wicks wrote:
> In Sept 2007, I needed to replace a dying PC, and was excited to get my first
> system with Vista pre-installed. The excitement began to wane within 10
> minutes of the first boot. The overwhelming quantity of pre-installed crappy
> demo applications became my first annoyance to deal with. I realize that this
> is no fault of Micro$oft, but they should be made aware of how the computing
> experience with Vista was severely diminished by Symantec junk and childish
> Roxio applications.
>
> The next barrier encountered was the Vista version: Home Premium. Having
> come from XP Pro, the absence of a professional environment was fairly
> obvious. In an attempt to regain a professional environment, I purchased an
> upgrade to Ultimate. The disappointment continued as I began to find that
> some of my favorite utilities (eg. defrag) had been drastically dumbed down.
> Further more, even as an administrator, there seemed to be far too many areas
> of the file system where access is denied. Even a simple network card status
> check has been made convoluted.
>
> The biggest annoyance Vista offered was a complete loss of productivity in
> my audio engineering environment. My new hardware is at least 3 times more
> powerful than the box I replaced, and yet it took nearly 3 months to get the
> new Vista system to perform ALMOST as well as the old system. ALMOST!
>
> The list goes on and on...ridiculously slow file operations, sketchy VPN
> client, flakey Media Center, etc.
>
> With the release of Vista SP1, Micro$oft has remained consistent in its
> ability to disappoint. I can't install it. Error code 0x80073712. Even after
> following the suggestions found at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=101139 the closest I get to any clue
> is in the CBC.log. Personally, I no longer have the patience to try and
> decode the log and can find no obvious reason for SP1's stubborn behavior.
> Further reading suggests that the only way to "possibly" resolve this issue
> is to re-install Vista. Six months after beginning my Vista experience, I am
> sick and tired of this OS, and if I need to re-install anything, it won't be
> Vista.
>
> In my professional life, I support over 2000 Windows users, and make a
> concerted effort to stay current regarding operating systems. From this point
> forward, in good conscience, I can not recommend Vista to any of my clients.
> It's beginning to smell like Windows ME.
>

It's the "new and improved" Windows ME. It's too bad, with XP, I began
to have some hope for Windows. Now I use Ubuntu (www.ubuntu.com) except
for gaming, which XP does quite well, being as it's a toy operating
system and all.

If you think MS controls your computer with Vista, wait until Windows 7
comes out.

Alias

"Alias" <> wrote in message
news:u0%...
> Paul Wicks wrote:
>> In Sept 2007, I needed to replace a dying PC, and was excited to get my
>> first system with Vista pre-installed. The excitement began to wane
>> within 10 minutes of the first boot. The overwhelming quantity of
>> pre-installed crappy demo applications became my first annoyance to deal
>> with. I realize that this is no fault of Micro$oft, but they should be
>> made aware of how the computing experience with Vista was severely
>> diminished by Symantec junk and childish Roxio applications.
>>
>> The next barrier encountered was the Vista version: Home Premium. Having
>> come from XP Pro, the absence of a professional environment was fairly
>> obvious. In an attempt to regain a professional environment, I purchased
>> an upgrade to Ultimate. The disappointment continued as I began to find
>> that some of my favorite utilities (eg. defrag) had been drastically
>> dumbed down. Further more, even as an administrator, there seemed to be
>> far too many areas of the file system where access is denied. Even a
>> simple network card status check has been made convoluted. The biggest
>> annoyance Vista offered was a complete loss of productivity in my audio
>> engineering environment. My new hardware is at least 3 times more
>> powerful than the box I replaced, and yet it took nearly 3 months to get
>> the new Vista system to perform ALMOST as well as the old system. ALMOST!
>>
>> The list goes on and on...ridiculously slow file operations, sketchy VPN
>> client, flakey Media Center, etc.
>>
>> With the release of Vista SP1, Micro$oft has remained consistent in its
>> ability to disappoint. I can't install it. Error code 0x80073712. Even
>> after following the suggestions found at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=101139 the closest I get to any
>> clue is in the CBC.log. Personally, I no longer have the patience to try
>> and decode the log and can find no obvious reason for SP1's stubborn
>> behavior. Further reading suggests that the only way to "possibly"
>> resolve this issue is to re-install Vista. Six months after beginning my
>> Vista experience, I am sick and tired of this OS, and if I need to
>> re-install anything, it won't be Vista.
>>
>> In my professional life, I support over 2000 Windows users, and make a
>> concerted effort to stay current regarding operating systems. From this
>> point forward, in good conscience, I can not recommend Vista to any of my
>> clients. It's beginning to smell like Windows ME.
>>
>
> It's the "new and improved" Windows ME. It's too bad, with XP, I began to
> have some hope for Windows. Now I use Ubuntu (www.ubuntu.com) except for
> gaming, which XP does quite well, being as it's a toy operating system and
> all.
>
> If you think MS controls your computer with Vista, wait until Windows 7
> comes out.
>
> Alias

But Whatever You Do, Do Not Install Ubuntu, Just FYI. Ubuntu Will Cause You
Problems. Just FYI

Alias wrote:


GET LOST SPAMMER!!!
Frank

Paul Wicks;661653 Wrote:
>
>
> In my professional life, I support over 2000 Windows users, and make a
>
> concerted effort to stay current regarding operating systems. From this
> point
> forward, in good conscience, I can not recommend Vista to any of my
> clients.
> It's beginning to smell like Windows ME.

Sorry you had such a bad time with Vista... Good luck with another OS
(if you switch). I too am an IT professional that uses some higher end
audio equipment on my Vista rig at home.

If you want some help with your current setup then fire away.

--t


--
Technologist
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Go Away Imposter, Just FYI.

<> wrote in message
news:...
> If Vista Is A Piece Of Crap, Just FYI, And Giving You Problems, You Should
> Revert Back To Windows XP. XP Seems To Be Stable And Works With Most
> Applications. Just FYI. Wait Until SP2 Is Released Before Going Back To
> Vista. Just FYI
>
>
> "Paul Wicks" <> wrote in message
> news:340BBA82-9401-42FA-BA9F-...
>> In Sept 2007, I needed to replace a dying PC, and was excited to get my
>> first
>> system with Vista pre-installed. The excitement began to wane within 10
>> minutes of the first boot. The overwhelming quantity of pre-installed
>> crappy
>> demo applications became my first annoyance to deal with. I realize that
>> this
>> is no fault of Micro$oft, but they should be made aware of how the
>> computing
>> experience with Vista was severely diminished by Symantec junk and
>> childish
>> Roxio applications.
>>
>> The next barrier encountered was the Vista version: Home Premium. Having
>> come from XP Pro, the absence of a professional environment was fairly
>> obvious. In an attempt to regain a professional environment, I purchased
>> an
>> upgrade to Ultimate. The disappointment continued as I began to find that
>> some of my favorite utilities (eg. defrag) had been drastically dumbed
>> down.
>> Further more, even as an administrator, there seemed to be far too many
>> areas
>> of the file system where access is denied. Even a simple network card
>> status
>> check has been made convoluted.
>>
>> The biggest annoyance Vista offered was a complete loss of productivity
>> in
>> my audio engineering environment. My new hardware is at least 3 times
>> more
>> powerful than the box I replaced, and yet it took nearly 3 months to get
>> the
>> new Vista system to perform ALMOST as well as the old system. ALMOST!
>>
>> The list goes on and on...ridiculously slow file operations, sketchy VPN
>> client, flakey Media Center, etc.
>>
>> With the release of Vista SP1, Micro$oft has remained consistent in its
>> ability to disappoint. I can't install it. Error code 0x80073712. Even
>> after
>> following the suggestions found at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=101139 the closest I get to any
>> clue
>> is in the CBC.log. Personally, I no longer have the patience to try and
>> decode the log and can find no obvious reason for SP1's stubborn
>> behavior.
>> Further reading suggests that the only way to "possibly" resolve this
>> issue
>> is to re-install Vista. Six months after beginning my Vista experience, I
>> am
>> sick and tired of this OS, and if I need to re-install anything, it won't
>> be
>> Vista.
>>
>> In my professional life, I support over 2000 Windows users, and make a
>> concerted effort to stay current regarding operating systems. From this
>> point
>> forward, in good conscience, I can not recommend Vista to any of my
>> clients.
>> It's beginning to smell like Windows ME.
>>
>

Go Away Imposter, Just FYI.

<> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:u0%...
>> Paul Wicks wrote:
>>> In Sept 2007, I needed to replace a dying PC, and was excited to get my
>>> first system with Vista pre-installed. The excitement began to wane
>>> within 10 minutes of the first boot. The overwhelming quantity of
>>> pre-installed crappy demo applications became my first annoyance to deal
>>> with. I realize that this is no fault of Micro$oft, but they should be
>>> made aware of how the computing experience with Vista was severely
>>> diminished by Symantec junk and childish Roxio applications.
>>>
>>> The next barrier encountered was the Vista version: Home Premium. Having
>>> come from XP Pro, the absence of a professional environment was fairly
>>> obvious. In an attempt to regain a professional environment, I purchased
>>> an upgrade to Ultimate. The disappointment continued as I began to find
>>> that some of my favorite utilities (eg. defrag) had been drastically
>>> dumbed down. Further more, even as an administrator, there seemed to be
>>> far too many areas of the file system where access is denied. Even a
>>> simple network card status check has been made convoluted. The biggest
>>> annoyance Vista offered was a complete loss of productivity in my audio
>>> engineering environment. My new hardware is at least 3 times more
>>> powerful than the box I replaced, and yet it took nearly 3 months to get
>>> the new Vista system to perform ALMOST as well as the old system.
>>> ALMOST!
>>>
>>> The list goes on and on...ridiculously slow file operations, sketchy VPN
>>> client, flakey Media Center, etc.
>>>
>>> With the release of Vista SP1, Micro$oft has remained consistent in its
>>> ability to disappoint. I can't install it. Error code 0x80073712. Even
>>> after following the suggestions found at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=101139 the closest I get to any
>>> clue is in the CBC.log. Personally, I no longer have the patience to try
>>> and decode the log and can find no obvious reason for SP1's stubborn
>>> behavior. Further reading suggests that the only way to "possibly"
>>> resolve this issue is to re-install Vista. Six months after beginning my
>>> Vista experience, I am sick and tired of this OS, and if I need to
>>> re-install anything, it won't be Vista.
>>>
>>> In my professional life, I support over 2000 Windows users, and make a
>>> concerted effort to stay current regarding operating systems. From this
>>> point forward, in good conscience, I can not recommend Vista to any of
>>> my clients. It's beginning to smell like Windows ME.
>>>
>>
>> It's the "new and improved" Windows ME. It's too bad, with XP, I began to
>> have some hope for Windows. Now I use Ubuntu (www.ubuntu.com) except for
>> gaming, which XP does quite well, being as it's a toy operating system
>> and all.
>>
>> If you think MS controls your computer with Vista, wait until Windows 7
>> comes out.
>>
>> Alias
>
> But Whatever You Do, Do Not Install Ubuntu, Just FYI. Ubuntu Will Cause
> You Problems. Just FYI
>

Paul Wicks wrote:

> In Sept 2007, I needed to replace a dying PC, and was excited to get my first
> system with Vista pre-installed. The excitement began to wane within 10
> minutes of the first boot. The overwhelming quantity of pre-installed crappy
> demo applications became my first annoyance to deal with. I realize that this
> is no fault of Micro$oft,

"Micro$oft"...ahahaha...the first and sure sign of an MS hating troll.

but they should be made aware of how the computing
> experience with Vista was severely diminished by Symantec junk and childish
> Roxio applications.

Then tell them!
>
> The next barrier encountered was the Vista version: Home Premium. Having
> come from XP Pro, the absence of a professional environment was fairly
> obvious. In an attempt to regain a professional environment, I purchased an
> upgrade to Ultimate. The disappointment continued as I began to find that
> some of my favorite utilities (eg. defrag) had been drastically dumbed down.

Not seeing the defrag dialogue is 'dumbing down"...that's funny!

> Further more, even as an administrator, there seemed to be far too many areas
> of the file system where access is denied. Even a simple network card status
> check has been made convoluted.

The real administrator is disabled by default.
>
> The biggest annoyance Vista offered was a complete loss of productivity in
> my audio engineering environment. My new hardware is at least 3 times more
> powerful than the box I replaced, and yet it took nearly 3 months to get the
> new Vista system to perform ALMOST as well as the old system. ALMOST!

So you didn't check hardware compatibility before installing Vista? Is
that correct?
You're an engineer?
>
> The list goes on and on...ridiculously slow file operations, sketchy VPN
> client, flakey Media Center, etc.
>
> With the release of Vista SP1, Micro$oft has remained consistent in its
> ability to disappoint. I can't install it. Error code 0x80073712. Even after
> following the suggestions found at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=101139 the closest I get to any clue
> is in the CBC.log. Personally, I no longer have the patience to try and
> decode the log and can find no obvious reason for SP1's stubborn behavior.

Uhhh...SP1 is not yet available for the general computing population.

> Further reading suggests that the only way to "possibly" resolve this issue
> is to re-install Vista.

Not really.

Six months after beginning my Vista experience, I am
> sick and tired of this OS, and if I need to re-install anything, it won't be
> Vista.

Yeah, it sounds like Vista has beaten you into the ground.
>
> In my professional life, I support over 2000 Windows users,

Sure you do...then why would you purchase a computer with a
pre-installed OS? If you had to then why didn't you flatten the HDD and
do a clean install?

and make a
> concerted effort to stay current regarding operating systems.

So you were in on the long beta of Longhorn/Vista right and this gave
you a head start in your supporting of over 2000 computers right?

From this point
> forward, in good conscience, I can not recommend Vista to any of my clients.

Well duh...if you're too incompetent to proper install and use Vista how
would any of your paying clients expect you to do it for them?

> It's beginning to smell like Windows ME.

And you're beginning to sound and smell like a whining incompetent as*hole!
Frank

Don't you have anything better to do? So some idiot is posting with a
"name" like yours. Who cares? Go do something worthwile like helping
little old ladies across the street.



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> Go Away Imposter, Just FYI.
>