VISTA IS A CRIME TO HUMANITY! And here is why>

Just another reason why Vista is badly designed crap and here is more proof.

Can you say global warming? The Vista OS made SLEEP mode the STANDARD way to turn off the computer when you press the off button on
the start menu. They also hid the HIBERNATION feature! You can enable hibernation ONLY if you do a tweak!

Sleep mode NEVER turns off the pc completely.. the power supply and other circuits keep DRAINING watts of energy for no real reason.
The BEST way was to use hibernation that saves the files you are working on and REALLY turns off the PC.

For example I tried sleep mode on my desktop.. in disgust I saw that the power supply was still running, fans rotating, and making noise!

WHAT IS MICROSOFT THINKING?????

From the MS site I give you this: http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...anagement.aspx

"Everyone knows that turning a TV off doesn't really turn it off. It is still available to receive the remote control signal, etc. so that it can come back on quickly. We wanted to emulate this for Windows Vista machines."

They DARE say that they are doing this to CONSERVE POWER?????? WHAT CRAP!!!!

MS does not want to conserve energy. They wanted to give an "ease of use to vista" so they can sell more, its all about marketing... and didn't care skit about ecology!

Sleep mode in vista makes your computer just another ENERGY SUCKING machine in "STANDBY MODE"

You may chuckle and say how much energy can a standby machine drain? THE FACTS ARE WORSE THAN YOU THINK!

See here:
http://www.powerint.com/greenroom/faqs.htm
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/1...ty-article.htm

"Even though home electronics aren't typically the biggest electricity users in a house, vampire power can still cost you up to 10% of your electric bill. Estimates of the cost to consumers and businesses for all the electricity lost to vampire power in the US range from $1 billion to $3.5 billion annually".

Now 5 - 10 % of the bill, means 5 - 10% of the energy, and that means 5 -10 out of 100 power stations are working full time burning fossil fuel just for these "Vampire machines"
while they sit sleeping, doing NOTHING!

Now it wasn't enough that we had VCRs dvdplayers TVs and other crap draining the energy without doing anything...

NOW with VISTA MICROSOFT JUST ADDED HEAT TO THE PROBLEM (pun intentional) by adding MILLIONS of computers in standby mode!!! THIS IS A CRIME TO HUMANITY!

Microsoft should FIX THIS right away with SP1 making hibernation available in the menu again, making sleep NON DEFAULT and educating the public about energy conservation

Here is an interesting page I found when writing this:
http://www.exoid.com/?page_id=47

I don't know if ANYONE can say anything against what I am saying above. The earth is not doing well.. its heating up too fast.. far sooner that what they thought.

If you mock me you are probably a blind vista follower... eating whatever they give you without using your brain!
I know many people like this here in this newsgroup... they will probably reply to this post saying something stupid!

"carl feredeck" <> wrote in message
news:...
Just another reason why Vista is badly designed crap and here is more proof.

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Yes, this is something that surprised me when I started using the betas, and
I assumed that they would change it. I know how to change it, but the
average computer user would not. It's more than a crime to humanity.

ss.

You are a brain dead moron. Global warming comes from you spewing garbage all over the place. Just in protest, I'm going to leave the TV on all day!

"carl feredeck" <> wrote in message news:...
Just another reason why Vista is badly designed crap and here is more proof.

Can you say global warming? The Vista OS made SLEEP mode the STANDARD way to turn off the computer when you press the off button on
the start menu. They also hid the HIBERNATION feature! You can enable hibernation ONLY if you do a tweak!

Sleep mode NEVER turns off the pc completely.. the power supply and other circuits keep DRAINING watts of energy for no real reason.
The BEST way was to use hibernation that saves the files you are working on and REALLY turns off the PC.

For example I tried sleep mode on my desktop.. in disgust I saw that the power supply was still running, fans rotating, and making noise!

WHAT IS MICROSOFT THINKING?????

From the MS site I give you this: http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...anagement.aspx

"Everyone knows that turning a TV off doesn't really turn it off. It is still available to receive the remote control signal, etc. so that it can come back on quickly. We wanted to emulate this for Windows Vista machines."

They DARE say that they are doing this to CONSERVE POWER?????? WHAT CRAP!!!!

MS does not want to conserve energy. They wanted to give an "ease of use to vista" so they can sell more, its all about marketing... and didn't care skit about ecology!

Sleep mode in vista makes your computer just another ENERGY SUCKING machine in "STANDBY MODE"

You may chuckle and say how much energy can a standby machine drain? THE FACTS ARE WORSE THAN YOU THINK!

See here:
http://www.powerint.com/greenroom/faqs.htm
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/1...ty-article.htm

"Even though home electronics aren't typically the biggest electricity users in a house, vampire power can still cost you up to 10% of your electric bill. Estimates of the cost to consumers and businesses for all the electricity lost to vampire power in the US range from $1 billion to $3.5 billion annually".

Now 5 - 10 % of the bill, means 5 - 10% of the energy, and that means 5 -10 out of 100 power stations are working full time burning fossil fuel just for these "Vampire machines"
while they sit sleeping, doing NOTHING!

Now it wasn't enough that we had VCRs dvdplayers TVs and other crap draining the energy without doing anything...

NOW with VISTA MICROSOFT JUST ADDED HEAT TO THE PROBLEM (pun intentional) by adding MILLIONS of computers in standby mode!!! THIS IS A CRIME TO HUMANITY!

Microsoft should FIX THIS right away with SP1 making hibernation available in the menu again, making sleep NON DEFAULT and educating the public about energy conservation

Here is an interesting page I found when writing this:
http://www.exoid.com/?page_id=47

I don't know if ANYONE can say anything against what I am saying above. The earth is not doing well.. its heating up too fast.. far sooner that what they thought.

If you mock me you are probably a blind vista follower... eating whatever they give you without using your brain!
I know many people like this here in this newsgroup... they will probably reply to this post saying something stupid!

"carl feredeck" <> wrote in message
news:...
Just another reason why Vista is badly designed crap and here is more proof.

Can you say global warming? The Vista OS made SLEEP mode the STANDARD way to
turn off the computer when you press the off button on
the start menu. They also hid the HIBERNATION feature! You can enable
hibernation ONLY if you do a tweak!

Sleep mode NEVER turns off the pc completely.. the power supply and other
circuits keep DRAINING watts of energy for no real reason.
The BEST way was to use hibernation that saves the files you are working on
and REALLY turns off the PC.

For example I tried sleep mode on my desktop.. in disgust I saw that the
power supply was still running, fans rotating, and making noise!

WHAT IS MICROSOFT THINKING?????

From the MS site I give you this:
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...anagement.aspx

"Everyone knows that turning a TV off doesn't really turn it off. It is
still available to receive the remote control signal, etc. so that it can
come back on quickly. We wanted to emulate this for Windows Vista
machines."

They DARE say that they are doing this to CONSERVE POWER?????? WHAT CRAP!!!!

MS does not want to conserve energy. They wanted to give an "ease of use to
vista" so they can sell more, its all about marketing... and didn't care
skit about ecology!

Sleep mode in vista makes your computer just another ENERGY SUCKING machine
in "STANDBY MODE"

You may chuckle and say how much energy can a standby machine drain? THE
FACTS ARE WORSE THAN YOU THINK!

See here:
http://www.powerint.com/greenroom/faqs.htm
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/1...ty-article.htm

"Even though home electronics aren't typically the biggest electricity users
in a house, vampire power can still cost you up to 10% of your electric
bill. Estimates of the cost to consumers and businesses for all the
electricity lost to vampire power in the US range from $1 billion to $3.5
billion annually".

Now 5 - 10 % of the bill, means 5 - 10% of the energy, and that means 5 -10
out of 100 power stations are working full time burning fossil fuel just for
these "Vampire machines"
while they sit sleeping, doing NOTHING!

Now it wasn't enough that we had VCRs dvdplayers TVs and other crap draining
the energy without doing anything...

NOW with VISTA MICROSOFT JUST ADDED HEAT TO THE PROBLEM (pun intentional) by
adding MILLIONS of computers in standby mode!!! THIS IS A CRIME TO HUMANITY!

Microsoft should FIX THIS right away with SP1 making hibernation available
in the menu again, making sleep NON DEFAULT and educating the public about
energy conservation

Here is an interesting page I found when writing this:
http://www.exoid.com/?page_id=47

I don't know if ANYONE can say anything against what I am saying above. The
earth is not doing well.. its heating up too fast.. far sooner that what
they thought.

If you mock me you are probably a blind vista follower... eating whatever
they give you without using your brain!
I know many people like this here in this newsgroup... they will probably
reply to this post saying something stupid!

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Have you actually considered unplugging your PC at the mains? That's what I
do. Amazingly it works every time, and with every operating system,
including Vista, XP, Linux, DOS. You name it. I've used it for years.

Probably a bit too sophisticated for some...

John.

When you are done using your computer Power it off.

When you want to use your computer. Power it on.


"carl feredeck" <> wrote in message news:...
Just another reason why Vista is badly designed crap and here is more proof.

Can you say global warming? The Vista OS made SLEEP mode the STANDARD way to turn off the computer when you press the off button on
the start menu. They also hid the HIBERNATION feature! You can enable hibernation ONLY if you do a tweak!

Sleep mode NEVER turns off the pc completely.. the power supply and other circuits keep DRAINING watts of energy for no real reason.
The BEST way was to use hibernation that saves the files you are working on and REALLY turns off the PC.

For example I tried sleep mode on my desktop.. in disgust I saw that the power supply was still running, fans rotating, and making noise!

WHAT IS MICROSOFT THINKING?????

From the MS site I give you this: http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...anagement.aspx

"Everyone knows that turning a TV off doesn't really turn it off. It is still available to receive the remote control signal, etc. so that it can come back on quickly. We wanted to emulate this for Windows Vista machines."

They DARE say that they are doing this to CONSERVE POWER?????? WHAT CRAP!!!!

MS does not want to conserve energy. They wanted to give an "ease of use to vista" so they can sell more, its all about marketing... and didn't care skit about ecology!

Sleep mode in vista makes your computer just another ENERGY SUCKING machine in "STANDBY MODE"

You may chuckle and say how much energy can a standby machine drain? THE FACTS ARE WORSE THAN YOU THINK!

See here:
http://www.powerint.com/greenroom/faqs.htm
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/1...ty-article.htm

"Even though home electronics aren't typically the biggest electricity users in a house, vampire power can still cost you up to 10% of your electric bill. Estimates of the cost to consumers and businesses for all the electricity lost to vampire power in the US range from $1 billion to $3.5 billion annually".

Now 5 - 10 % of the bill, means 5 - 10% of the energy, and that means 5 -10 out of 100 power stations are working full time burning fossil fuel just for these "Vampire machines"
while they sit sleeping, doing NOTHING!

Now it wasn't enough that we had VCRs dvdplayers TVs and other crap draining the energy without doing anything...

NOW with VISTA MICROSOFT JUST ADDED HEAT TO THE PROBLEM (pun intentional) by adding MILLIONS of computers in standby mode!!! THIS IS A CRIME TO HUMANITY!

Microsoft should FIX THIS right away with SP1 making hibernation available in the menu again, making sleep NON DEFAULT and educating the public about energy conservation

Here is an interesting page I found when writing this:
http://www.exoid.com/?page_id=47

I don't know if ANYONE can say anything against what I am saying above. The earth is not doing well.. its heating up too fast.. far sooner that what they thought.

If you mock me you are probably a blind vista follower... eating whatever they give you without using your brain!
I know many people like this here in this newsgroup... they will probably reply to this post saying something stupid!

I hope this post gets into some blog so people can see
what you replied...
One word describes you: Ignorant!


"Bill Yanaire" <> wrote in message news:%...
You are a brain dead moron. Global warming comes from you spewing garbage all over the place. Just in protest, I'm going to leave the TV on all day!

"carl feredeck" <> wrote in message news:...
Just another reason why Vista is badly designed crap and here is more proof.

Can you say global warming? The Vista OS made SLEEP mode the STANDARD way to turn off the computer when you press the off button on
the start menu. They also hid the HIBERNATION feature! You can enable hibernation ONLY if you do a tweak!

Sleep mode NEVER turns off the pc completely.. the power supply and other circuits keep DRAINING watts of energy for no real reason.
The BEST way was to use hibernation that saves the files you are working on and REALLY turns off the PC.

For example I tried sleep mode on my desktop.. in disgust I saw that the power supply was still running, fans rotating, and making noise!

WHAT IS MICROSOFT THINKING?????

From the MS site I give you this: http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...anagement.aspx

"Everyone knows that turning a TV off doesn't really turn it off. It is still available to receive the remote control signal, etc. so that it can come back on quickly. We wanted to emulate this for Windows Vista machines."

They DARE say that they are doing this to CONSERVE POWER?????? WHAT CRAP!!!!

MS does not want to conserve energy. They wanted to give an "ease of use to vista" so they can sell more, its all about marketing... and didn't care skit about ecology!

Sleep mode in vista makes your computer just another ENERGY SUCKING machine in "STANDBY MODE"

You may chuckle and say how much energy can a standby machine drain? THE FACTS ARE WORSE THAN YOU THINK!

See here:
http://www.powerint.com/greenroom/faqs.htm
http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/1...ty-article.htm

"Even though home electronics aren't typically the biggest electricity users in a house, vampire power can still cost you up to 10% of your electric bill. Estimates of the cost to consumers and businesses for all the electricity lost to vampire power in the US range from $1 billion to $3.5 billion annually".

Now 5 - 10 % of the bill, means 5 - 10% of the energy, and that means 5 -10 out of 100 power stations are working full time burning fossil fuel just for these "Vampire machines"
while they sit sleeping, doing NOTHING!

Now it wasn't enough that we had VCRs dvdplayers TVs and other crap draining the energy without doing anything...

NOW with VISTA MICROSOFT JUST ADDED HEAT TO THE PROBLEM (pun intentional) by adding MILLIONS of computers in standby mode!!! THIS IS A CRIME TO HUMANITY!

Microsoft should FIX THIS right away with SP1 making hibernation available in the menu again, making sleep NON DEFAULT and educating the public about energy conservation

Here is an interesting page I found when writing this:
http://www.exoid.com/?page_id=47

I don't know if ANYONE can say anything against what I am saying above. The earth is not doing well.. its heating up too fast.. far sooner that what they thought.

If you mock me you are probably a blind vista follower... eating whatever they give you without using your brain!
I know many people like this here in this newsgroup... they will probably reply to this post saying something stupid!

"Bill Yanaire" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> When you are done using your computer Power it off.

> When you want to use your computer. Power it on.


The point is not what he does personally. The point is what Vista, a global
operating system, does by default. You are the one who is being a moron.

ss.

"John E" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Have you actually considered unplugging your PC at the mains? That's what
> I do. Amazingly it works every time, and with every operating system,
> including Vista, XP, Linux, DOS. You name it. I've used it for years.
>
> Probably a bit too sophisticated for some...
>

Whooosh!!!

ss.

So, do you pull the plug on your TV to *really* save power, or do you just
turn it off so it comes back on quickly? Be honest now! You don't, do you.
You just like to blow wind and make waves.

It goes along with your outburst that you should yank the TV plug out of the
wall socket when you are not actively viewing the TV.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

carl feredeck wrote:

> Just another reason why Vista is badly designed crap and here is more proof.
>
> Can you say global warming? The Vista OS made SLEEP mode the STANDARD
> way to turn off the computer when you press the off button on
> the start menu. They also hid the HIBERNATION feature! You can
> enable hibernation ONLY if you do a tweak!
>
> Sleep mode NEVER turns off the pc completely.. the power supply and
> other circuits keep DRAINING watts of energy for no real reason.
> The BEST way was to use hibernation that saves the files you are working
> on and REALLY turns off the PC.
>
> For example I tried sleep mode on my desktop.. in disgust I saw that the
> power supply was still running, fans rotating, and making noise!
>
> WHAT IS MICROSOFT THINKING?????
>
> From the MS site I give you this:
> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...anagement.aspx
>
> *"Everyone knows that turning a TV off doesn’t really turn it off. It
> is still available to receive the remote control signal, etc. so that it
> can come back on quickly. We wanted to emulate this for Windows Vista
> machines."*
> **
> *They DARE say that they are doing this to CONSERVE POWER?????? WHAT
> CRAP!!!!*
> **
> MS does not want to conserve energy. They wanted to give an "ease of use
> to vista" so they can sell more, its all about marketing... and didn't
> care skit about ecology!
>
> Sleep mode in vista makes your computer just another ENERGY SUCKING
> machine in "STANDBY MODE"
>
> You may chuckle and say how much energy can a standby machine drain? THE
> FACTS ARE WORSE THAN YOU THINK!
>
> See here:
> http://www.powerint.com/greenroom/faqs.htm
> http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/1...ty-article.htm
> "Even though home electronics aren't typically the biggest electricity
> users in a house, vampire power can still cost you up to 10% of your
> electric bill. Estimates of the cost to consumers and businesses for all
> the electricity lost to vampire power in the US range from $1 billion to
> $3.5 billion annually".
>
> Now 5 - 10 % of the bill, means 5 - 10% of the energy, and that means 5
> -10 out of 100 power stations are working full time burning fossil fuel
> just for these "Vampire machines"
> while they sit sleeping, doing NOTHING!
>
> Now it wasn't enough that we had VCRs dvdplayers TVs and other crap
> draining the energy without doing anything...
>
> NOW with VISTA MICROSOFT JUST ADDED HEAT TO THE PROBLEM (pun
> intentional) by adding MILLIONS of computers in standby mode!!! THIS IS
> A CRIME TO HUMANITY!
>
> Microsoft should FIX THIS right away with SP1 making hibernation
> available in the menu again, making sleep NON DEFAULT and educating the
> public about energy conservation
>
> Here is an interesting page I found when writing this:
> http://www.exoid.com/?page_id=47
>
> I don't know if ANYONE can say anything against what I am saying above.
> The earth is not doing well.. its heating up too fast.. far sooner that
> what they thought.
>
> If you mock me you are probably a blind vista follower... eating
> whatever they give you without using your brain!
> I know many people like this here in this newsgroup... they will
> probably reply to this post saying something stupid!
>
>
>
>
You bandwidth sucking moron! You've wasted more energy posting this
diatribe of a message than all the Vista computers in the world use in
sleep mode.
Get lost you stupid jackass.
Frank