vista is defective

after a week comeing to this site,,seeing all of the post..about all the
problems you all are haveing with vista.driveing your selves crazy...

vista is defective..you guys are trying to do a lot of different things.with
your computers..

within a os thats defective..give up...vista fights you on everything you
try to do and install..its screws up..when you try and do too many things..

go back to a computer with win xp and use it..use your computer .instead of
trying to fix it..everything single day..keep the vista computer,for light
things..like web and email..

im going to use my other computer for everything else,im not fighting this
crap..uncle bill needs to recall all of these os,s and go back to the drawing
board hire some people that know what they are doing for once..

if i was him..i would be ashamed to rip the people off.by selling them a
defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista..do you see all
of these post about your defective product..maybe all of those bilions have
clouded his mind..

Vista works great for many on their computers.
I have no trouble with Windows Vista on two older computers.

"problems you all are haveing with vista"
Obviously FALSE since many are not having problems.

"give up"
why?
I have no problems to give up on.

"go back to a computer with win xp"
I have that as well and no problems.
Many of the complaints today about Windows Vista are similar to 6
years ago when Windows XP was released.
And similar to each previous operating system before that.

"defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista"
If that is what Windows Vista is to you by all means stay with what
you have.
If that is Windows Vista on your computer, there is more to the
problems than just Windows Vista.
No one said you needed to upgrade.
And you shouldn't unless there is something in the new product you
need.
Same as any product from any manufacturer, do not buy simply because
there is something, rarely has that been a good idea.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"wheelman" <> wrote in message
news:21CBBDEA-5A3A-411B-8776-...
> after a week comeing to this site,,seeing all of the post..about all
> the
> problems you all are haveing with vista.driveing your selves
> crazy...
>
> vista is defective..you guys are trying to do a lot of different
> things.with
> your computers..
>
> within a os thats defective..give up...vista fights you on
> everything you
> try to do and install..its screws up..when you try and do too many
> things..
>
> go back to a computer with win xp and use it..use your computer
> .instead of
> trying to fix it..everything single day..keep the vista computer,for
> light
> things..like web and email..
>
> im going to use my other computer for everything else,im not
> fighting this
> crap..uncle bill needs to recall all of these os,s and go back to
> the drawing
> board hire some people that know what they are doing for once..
>
> if i was him..i would be ashamed to rip the people off.by selling
> them a
> defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista..do you
> see all
> of these post about your defective product..maybe all of those
> bilions have
> clouded his mind..

do you read all of these post on here..or are you trying to wear
blinders..for microsofts sake..i feel for all of these people on here..they
are driveing them selves to tears,,trying to get something to work,within
this defective os..they dont want to walk away,they have spent there
money..they are hopeing for miricles..they are not going to come..

you fix one problem.another one is going to pop up..uncle bill got our
money..theres nothing we can do or he is going to do..he robbed the people
out here..plain and simple..i guess he has no problem with that..he,s
counting his billions..

and the people here,will keep posting there problems..after four months,i
seen its limittations..it want do no more.with out..pain and suffering..i got
it to a certain point,,and thats it,i will do everything else with win xp on
the other computer..money lost lessons learned..



"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> Vista works great for many on their computers.
> I have no trouble with Windows Vista on two older computers.
>
> "problems you all are haveing with vista"
> Obviously FALSE since many are not having problems.
>
> "give up"
> why?
> I have no problems to give up on.
>
> "go back to a computer with win xp"
> I have that as well and no problems.
> Many of the complaints today about Windows Vista are similar to 6
> years ago when Windows XP was released.
> And similar to each previous operating system before that.
>
> "defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista"
> If that is what Windows Vista is to you by all means stay with what
> you have.
> If that is Windows Vista on your computer, there is more to the
> problems than just Windows Vista.
> No one said you needed to upgrade.
> And you shouldn't unless there is something in the new product you
> need.
> Same as any product from any manufacturer, do not buy simply because
> there is something, rarely has that been a good idea.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "wheelman" <> wrote in message
> news:21CBBDEA-5A3A-411B-8776-...
> > after a week comeing to this site,,seeing all of the post..about all
> > the
> > problems you all are haveing with vista.driveing your selves
> > crazy...
> >
> > vista is defective..you guys are trying to do a lot of different
> > things.with
> > your computers..
> >
> > within a os thats defective..give up...vista fights you on
> > everything you
> > try to do and install..its screws up..when you try and do too many
> > things..
> >
> > go back to a computer with win xp and use it..use your computer
> > .instead of
> > trying to fix it..everything single day..keep the vista computer,for
> > light
> > things..like web and email..
> >
> > im going to use my other computer for everything else,im not
> > fighting this
> > crap..uncle bill needs to recall all of these os,s and go back to
> > the drawing
> > board hire some people that know what they are doing for once..
> >
> > if i was him..i would be ashamed to rip the people off.by selling
> > them a
> > defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista..do you
> > see all
> > of these post about your defective product..maybe all of those
> > bilions have
> > clouded his mind..
>
>

Yes, I read the posts, most of them.
No blinders necessary.

"i feel for all of these people"
If you assume others do not care, you will be bound by your false
assumptions and the consequences thereof.

It is you who has blinders if you actually believe:
"vista fights you on everything you try to do"
Clearly NOT "everything" for many.
"problems you all are haveing"
Obviously not all are having problems.
Your exaggerations conflict with the facts.

"you fix one problem.another one is going to pop up"
Not always, another exaggeration from you.

"pain and suffering"
None necessary.
Perhaps those that experience "pain and suffering" have other issues
that go deeper than an uncooperative operating system.

"money lost"
If that describes you, that was entirely your choice.
You bought what you bought and chose not to return it.
Why did you not return Windows Vista or the computer if you felt that
way?

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"wheelman" <> wrote in message
news:7834C450-6B54-4DB3-8765-...
> do you read all of these post on here..or are you trying to wear
> blinders..for microsofts sake..i feel for all of these people on
> here..they
> are driveing them selves to tears,,trying to get something to
> work,within
> this defective os..they dont want to walk away,they have spent there
> money..they are hopeing for miricles..they are not going to come..
>
> you fix one problem.another one is going to pop up..uncle bill got
> our
> money..theres nothing we can do or he is going to do..he robbed the
> people
> out here..plain and simple..i guess he has no problem with
> that..he,s
> counting his billions..
>
> and the people here,will keep posting there problems..after four
> months,i
> seen its limittations..it want do no more.with out..pain and
> suffering..i got
> it to a certain point,,and thats it,i will do everything else with
> win xp on
> the other computer..money lost lessons learned..
>
>
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Vista works great for many on their computers.
>> I have no trouble with Windows Vista on two older computers.
>>
>> "problems you all are haveing with vista"
>> Obviously FALSE since many are not having problems.
>>
>> "give up"
>> why?
>> I have no problems to give up on.
>>
>> "go back to a computer with win xp"
>> I have that as well and no problems.
>> Many of the complaints today about Windows Vista are similar to 6
>> years ago when Windows XP was released.
>> And similar to each previous operating system before that.
>>
>> "defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista"
>> If that is what Windows Vista is to you by all means stay with what
>> you have.
>> If that is Windows Vista on your computer, there is more to the
>> problems than just Windows Vista.
>> No one said you needed to upgrade.
>> And you shouldn't unless there is something in the new product you
>> need.
>> Same as any product from any manufacturer, do not buy simply
>> because
>> there is something, rarely has that been a good idea.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "wheelman" <> wrote in message
>> news:21CBBDEA-5A3A-411B-8776-...
>> > after a week comeing to this site,,seeing all of the post..about
>> > all
>> > the
>> > problems you all are haveing with vista.driveing your selves
>> > crazy...
>> >
>> > vista is defective..you guys are trying to do a lot of different
>> > things.with
>> > your computers..
>> >
>> > within a os thats defective..give up...vista fights you on
>> > everything you
>> > try to do and install..its screws up..when you try and do too
>> > many
>> > things..
>> >
>> > go back to a computer with win xp and use it..use your computer
>> > .instead of
>> > trying to fix it..everything single day..keep the vista
>> > computer,for
>> > light
>> > things..like web and email..
>> >
>> > im going to use my other computer for everything else,im not
>> > fighting this
>> > crap..uncle bill needs to recall all of these os,s and go back to
>> > the drawing
>> > board hire some people that know what they are doing for once..
>> >
>> > if i was him..i would be ashamed to rip the people off.by selling
>> > them a
>> > defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista..do
>> > you
>> > see all
>> > of these post about your defective product..maybe all of those
>> > bilions have
>> > clouded his mind..
>>
>>

I don't have any problems with Vista!

I am here to help others, like yourself, who have no idea how to use a
computer(YOU), or have bought a Manufecturers OEM preinstalled computer with
all the manufacture's crap on it.

"wheelman" wrote:

> after a week comeing to this site,,seeing all of the post..about all the
> problems you all are haveing with vista.driveing your selves crazy...
>
> vista is defective..you guys are trying to do a lot of different things.with
> your computers..
>
> within a os thats defective..give up...vista fights you on everything you
> try to do and install..its screws up..when you try and do too many things..
>
> go back to a computer with win xp and use it..use your computer .instead of
> trying to fix it..everything single day..keep the vista computer,for light
> things..like web and email..
>
> im going to use my other computer for everything else,im not fighting this
> crap..uncle bill needs to recall all of these os,s and go back to the drawing
> board hire some people that know what they are doing for once..
>
> if i was him..i would be ashamed to rip the people off.by selling them a
> defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista..do you see all
> of these post about your defective product..maybe all of those bilions have
> clouded his mind..

I dont have problems either. Vista is running perfect on my PC.

--Gudmund


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <> skrev i meddelelsen
news:...
> Vista works great for many on their computers.
> I have no trouble with Windows Vista on two older computers.
>
> "problems you all are haveing with vista"
> Obviously FALSE since many are not having problems.
>
> "give up"
> why?
> I have no problems to give up on.
>
> "go back to a computer with win xp"
> I have that as well and no problems.
> Many of the complaints today about Windows Vista are similar to 6 years
> ago when Windows XP was released.
> And similar to each previous operating system before that.
>
> "defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista"
> If that is what Windows Vista is to you by all means stay with what you
> have.
> If that is Windows Vista on your computer, there is more to the problems
> than just Windows Vista.
> No one said you needed to upgrade.
> And you shouldn't unless there is something in the new product you need.
> Same as any product from any manufacturer, do not buy simply because there
> is something, rarely has that been a good idea.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "wheelman" <> wrote in message
> news:21CBBDEA-5A3A-411B-8776-...
>> after a week comeing to this site,,seeing all of the post..about all the
>> problems you all are haveing with vista.driveing your selves crazy...
>>
>> vista is defective..you guys are trying to do a lot of different
>> things.with
>> your computers..
>>
>> within a os thats defective..give up...vista fights you on everything you
>> try to do and install..its screws up..when you try and do too many
>> things..
>>
>> go back to a computer with win xp and use it..use your computer .instead
>> of
>> trying to fix it..everything single day..keep the vista computer,for
>> light
>> things..like web and email..
>>
>> im going to use my other computer for everything else,im not fighting
>> this
>> crap..uncle bill needs to recall all of these os,s and go back to the
>> drawing
>> board hire some people that know what they are doing for once..
>>
>> if i was him..i would be ashamed to rip the people off.by selling them a
>> defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista..do you see
>> all
>> of these post about your defective product..maybe all of those bilions
>> have
>> clouded his mind..
>

I must say, I'm easy when it comes to operating systems, although my
preference is Windows in all flavours.. I use them all, and they all
have their advantages. My desktop dual boots XP and Vista, XP for
hardware or programs (getting less by the week) that still give bugs in
Vista.. I experiment with a Linux server, as it has less overheads. I go
no further than the server as I feel that even the new editions of Linux
are too buggy.

People are so quick to forget how awful XP was for the first year.
Driver support was the same then as it is now, companies refuse to write
stable drivers (if any at all) for older equipment to encourage people
to buy new products from them. I am in agreement with this policy Why
should they spend money to write new drivers for every printer they
made, when those printers will never again increase their profits.
Anyone who wishes to progress positively in Computer technology, if they
wish to invest so much in a (unecessary) new OS, should be perpared to
update their hardware.

My preference for Windows is based on real-life experience, not just
habit.

In way too many cases, people condemn operating systems or applications
that they've never even used, or that they've only fooled around with
for a few minutes or a few hours on a demo system at the store or a
friend's computer.

In fact, some of the most adamant criticisms I hear about Vista come
from some of my colleagues who have never run the OS. They'll admit that
they're basing their opinions on what they've heard from others, but
insist that if those others are saying it, it must be true. I hear
people proclaim, "I've never used Vista and I never will" - just as
proudly as they proclaimed the same thing about XP a few years ago.

A popular comment, for example is that the poster, etc., won't use
Vista because "the DRM prevents you from playing any of your previously
downloaded music." That's 100% untrue - I play previously downloaded
music on my Vista machine all the time and so do many other people, and
without any prior configuration. But it's something they have read on
the web somewhere, and it has been integratedt into what they "know"
about Vista.

There are some good, legitimate, reasons not to upgrade to Vista. If
you have older hardware that's not supported and you don't want to buy
new peripherals or a new machine, or if you have applications that won't
run on Vista, that's a perfectly good reason to keep XP.

But don't blame Vista or Microsoft when peripheral makers fail to
provide drivers for their hardware components. Someone commented to me
last week that he had bought a new computer and his Epson printer
wouldn't work with it because "it's running that stupid Vista." Hey,
that's Epson's fault, not Vista's. All my older HP printers work just
fine with Vista - because HP has provided Vista drivers for them. He
searched the Epson site and couldn't find Vista drivers for his printer;
sounds to me as if Epson wants you to buy a new printer instead. I'd
recommend that when/if you do so, you make sure it's not an Epson.

Another good reason not to upgrade is because you don't need to. If
your XP computer works just fine and it's doing everything you want it
to do, keep it. Don't feel pressured to go with the newest OS just
because it is new. Just don't condemn the newest OS because it's new,
either. And remember that XP went through its growing pains, too. Those
who point fingers whenever a security flaw is found in Vista apparently
have forgotten all those flaws that have been patched in XP. And those
who grumble about Vista's new interface don't seem to remember that they
were the same ones grumbling about all the changes that came with XP.

If you just don't want to pay for a new OS, you'll hear no argument
from me. But for some, money has nothing to do with it. Many companies
pay for the upgrades, although their employees are confortable with
their old, familiar operating system. And that brings us to some of the
not-so-good reasons for not upgrading.

Some people aren't comfortable with new things, even if those new
things are improvements. Likewise, I have colleagues who take one look
at Vista's new Explorer or with Office 2007's ribbon interface and
immediately "don't like it" without ever giving it a chance. I like
learning new things and like to, more closely, examine these changes New
features such as the clickable path in Explorer make it easier for me to
get around in the file system, and I welcome that. Iit took a little
getting used to, like the new Start/menu layout, but now I'd hate to be
without it.

In many countries, the criminal justice system is built on the
principle that a person is to be considered innocent until proven
guilty. New products get no such protection. For those who have used
Vista for a few months and decided that they like XP better, we just
have a difference of opinion. The relative merit of an operating system
interface is a subjective matter and some will always hate what others
love. There's no problem with that. But for those who have judged Vista
guilty - of user unfriendliness, of slowness, of security problems, or
whatever - without ever using it or after giving it a spin for only a
day or two, I really can't put much stock in their opinions.

I'll always support a persons individual right to use whatever software
works best for them (including Mac and Linux), but can't they go ahead
and use it without calling those of us who happen to like Vista stupid
or implying that we're nothing but Microsoft shills?

What do you think about the OS wars? Why do people (yes, myself
sometimes included) have a tendency to denigrate others' choices? Why do
so many folks fear anything that's new? Do you take pride in your
refusal to upgrade - or on the other hand, do you take pride in being an
early adopter? Have you vowed never to upgrade based on something you've
read or heard, without ever actually trying the new software out for
yourself? Or are you just sensibly waiting until the first service pack,
or for a price drop, or until your current computer dies, or until your
mission-critical applications have been upgraded to work with Vista?


--
uhaligani

I started with my first computer in 1989, running Windows 3.1. I have used
every Windows operating system since and I have never had as many problems as
I have with Vista. I had to put XP back on this computer and I will not use
Vista until they fix the problems. They are talking about another new
operating system that is to come out in '09! They haven't even fixed Vista
and they want to put out another system. All they want is our money! They put
out a defective product and overcharge for it! I think I might buy an Apple
computer!!!
--
Chris


"Mick Murphy" wrote:

> I don't have any problems with Vista!
>
> I am here to help others, like yourself, who have no idea how to use a
> computer(YOU), or have bought a Manufecturers OEM preinstalled computer with
> all the manufacture's crap on it.
>
> "wheelman" wrote:
>
> > after a week comeing to this site,,seeing all of the post..about all the
> > problems you all are haveing with vista.driveing your selves crazy...
> >
> > vista is defective..you guys are trying to do a lot of different things.with
> > your computers..
> >
> > within a os thats defective..give up...vista fights you on everything you
> > try to do and install..its screws up..when you try and do too many things..
> >
> > go back to a computer with win xp and use it..use your computer .instead of
> > trying to fix it..everything single day..keep the vista computer,for light
> > things..like web and email..
> >
> > im going to use my other computer for everything else,im not fighting this
> > crap..uncle bill needs to recall all of these os,s and go back to the drawing
> > board hire some people that know what they are doing for once..
> >
> > if i was him..i would be ashamed to rip the people off.by selling them a
> > defective..worthless..pull your hair out product.like vista..do you see all
> > of these post about your defective product..maybe all of those bilions have
> > clouded his mind..

What in particular are you finding defective with it and what problems
have you had. Forums such as this will help you through. I have no
problems with Vista, except through having to resort the changed
navigation for most common items.


--
uhaligani

I am in agreement with this policy Why
> should they spend money to write new drivers for every printer they
> made, when those printers will never again increase their profits.

I don't think this is a wise policy at all. Having been forced to replace
two perfectly good HP printers because they had no Vista drivers, I decided
not to buy HP again. I bought a new Canon printer,because they make their
products backwards compatible.