Vista Defrag versus Diskeeper

I have been a Diskeeper fan for years. However, I just had to reinstall
Vista Ultimate and am having a minor problem getting Diskeeper to register
2007 Professional for the second time on the "same" machine but in a
different partition. When I started to look at what was in Vista I stumbled
into the built in Defrag program. Any recommendations/opinions - should I
just shelve Diskeeper 2007 and use the Vista version? What about the 2008
versions of Diskeeper - any reasons to buy yet another version?

disk keeper is about a trillion times superior than the stupid, dumbed down,
mysterious, non user friendly, hidden, uneffective, degraded, downgraded
version of the defragmenter thats built into Vista.

Get diskeeper 2008 if you can since the whole program has been revamped, its
a fantastic product...

there are also 2 free degragmenters that you might want to use in combo with
the vista one that runs a s service, if you want to skip buying the
diskkeeper upgrade *unless you are entitled to a free upgrade or a discount*

here are the free ones (the first one works quite well)

http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag

http://www.defraggler.com/








"Ken" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I have been a Diskeeper fan for years. However, I just had to reinstall
>Vista Ultimate and am having a minor problem getting Diskeeper to register
>2007 Professional for the second time on the "same" machine but in a
>different partition. When I started to look at what was in Vista I
>stumbled into the built in Defrag program. Any recommendations/opinions -
>should I just shelve Diskeeper 2007 and use the Vista version? What about
>the 2008 versions of Diskeeper - any reasons to buy yet another version?

Thanks for the Diskeeper reinforcement. I'll break down and upgrade one
more time.

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:...
> disk keeper is about a trillion times superior than the stupid, dumbed
> down, mysterious, non user friendly, hidden, uneffective, degraded,
> downgraded version of the defragmenter thats built into Vista.
>
> Get diskeeper 2008 if you can since the whole program has been revamped,
> its a fantastic product...
>
> there are also 2 free degragmenters that you might want to use in combo
> with the vista one that runs a s service, if you want to skip buying the
> diskkeeper upgrade *unless you are entitled to a free upgrade or a
> discount*
>
> here are the free ones (the first one works quite well)
>
> http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag
>
> http://www.defraggler.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Ken" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I have been a Diskeeper fan for years. However, I just had to reinstall
>>Vista Ultimate and am having a minor problem getting Diskeeper to register
>>2007 Professional for the second time on the "same" machine but in a
>>different partition. When I started to look at what was in Vista I
>>stumbled into the built in Defrag program. Any recommendations/opinions -
>>should I just shelve Diskeeper 2007 and use the Vista version? What about
>>the 2008 versions of Diskeeper - any reasons to buy yet another version?
>
>

take a look at those free ones too ...

Vistas one is good as a service but as you noticed it has no feedback
(VISUAL)
in combo with those free ones perhaps you may manage ..

but diskeeper as you must know since you are an old user has smart placment
and other
tricks up it sleave that vistas built in one and these free ones dont have

Im posting this info because others might be reading this thread and want to
try alternative
free programs...

:-)


"Ken" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Thanks for the Diskeeper reinforcement. I'll break down and upgrade one
> more time.
>
> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
> news:...
>> disk keeper is about a trillion times superior than the stupid, dumbed
>> down, mysterious, non user friendly, hidden, uneffective, degraded,
>> downgraded version of the defragmenter thats built into Vista.
>>
>> Get diskeeper 2008 if you can since the whole program has been revamped,
>> its a fantastic product...
>>
>> there are also 2 free degragmenters that you might want to use in combo
>> with the vista one that runs a s service, if you want to skip buying the
>> diskkeeper upgrade *unless you are entitled to a free upgrade or a
>> discount*
>>
>> here are the free ones (the first one works quite well)
>>
>> http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag
>>
>> http://www.defraggler.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ken" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>I have been a Diskeeper fan for years. However, I just had to reinstall
>>>Vista Ultimate and am having a minor problem getting Diskeeper to
>>>register 2007 Professional for the second time on the "same" machine but
>>>in a different partition. When I started to look at what was in Vista I
>>>stumbled into the built in Defrag program. Any
>>>recommendations/opinions - should I just shelve Diskeeper 2007 and use
>>>the Vista version? What about the 2008 versions of Diskeeper - any
>>>reasons to buy yet another version?
>>
>>
>

It's a pity the dumbed down mysterious built in defrag of Vista is
Diskeeper, just like it was with XP. With Vista having a minor upgraded NTFS
the built in one is just fine, there's no need for display except for the
anal that must have proof something is working.

"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47cf0bb7$...
> take a look at those free ones too ...
>
> Vistas one is good as a service but as you noticed it has no feedback
> (VISUAL)
> in combo with those free ones perhaps you may manage ..
>
> but diskeeper as you must know since you are an old user has smart
> placment and other
> tricks up it sleave that vistas built in one and these free ones dont have
>
> Im posting this info because others might be reading this thread and want
> to try alternative
> free programs...
>
> :-)
>
>
> "Ken" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Thanks for the Diskeeper reinforcement. I'll break down and upgrade one
>> more time.
>>
>> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> disk keeper is about a trillion times superior than the stupid, dumbed
>>> down, mysterious, non user friendly, hidden, uneffective, degraded,
>>> downgraded version of the defragmenter thats built into Vista.
>>>
>>> Get diskeeper 2008 if you can since the whole program has been revamped,
>>> its a fantastic product...
>>>
>>> there are also 2 free degragmenters that you might want to use in combo
>>> with the vista one that runs a s service, if you want to skip buying the
>>> diskkeeper upgrade *unless you are entitled to a free upgrade or a
>>> discount*
>>>
>>> here are the free ones (the first one works quite well)
>>>
>>> http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag
>>>
>>> http://www.defraggler.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ken" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>>I have been a Diskeeper fan for years. However, I just had to reinstall
>>>>Vista Ultimate and am having a minor problem getting Diskeeper to
>>>>register 2007 Professional for the second time on the "same" machine but
>>>>in a different partition. When I started to look at what was in Vista I
>>>>stumbled into the built in Defrag program. Any
>>>>recommendations/opinions - should I just shelve Diskeeper 2007 and use
>>>>the Vista version? What about the 2008 versions of Diskeeper - any
>>>>reasons to buy yet another version?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

you are incorrect, this all depends on how you use the computer

for old grannies that don't download or shift around lots of files in their
computer or leave it on all night doing nothing so it can idle and start
defragging, contributing to global warming, the stupid one of vista is ok.
For those who don't mind their hard disk to thrash with no visual feedback
to why this is happening, its ok. Those same people
might not care if its malware erasing their files that's thrashing their
disk. For those who don't care if the defrag with take 1 hour
or 100 hours its ok....

dumbed down, it stinks big time

For us power users.. its .. less good than XP's built in one.



"Peter M" <> wrote in message
news:u%...
> It's a pity the dumbed down mysterious built in defrag of Vista is
> Diskeeper, just like it was with XP. With Vista having a minor upgraded
> NTFS the built in one is just fine, there's no need for display except for
> the anal that must have proof something is working.
>
> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
> news:47cf0bb7$...
>> take a look at those free ones too ...
>>
>> Vistas one is good as a service but as you noticed it has no feedback
>> (VISUAL)
>> in combo with those free ones perhaps you may manage ..
>>
>> but diskeeper as you must know since you are an old user has smart
>> placment and other
>> tricks up it sleave that vistas built in one and these free ones dont
>> have
>>
>> Im posting this info because others might be reading this thread and want
>> to try alternative
>> free programs...
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> "Ken" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Thanks for the Diskeeper reinforcement. I'll break down and upgrade one
>>> more time.
>>>
>>> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> disk keeper is about a trillion times superior than the stupid, dumbed
>>>> down, mysterious, non user friendly, hidden, uneffective, degraded,
>>>> downgraded version of the defragmenter thats built into Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Get diskeeper 2008 if you can since the whole program has been
>>>> revamped, its a fantastic product...
>>>>
>>>> there are also 2 free degragmenters that you might want to use in combo
>>>> with the vista one that runs a s service, if you want to skip buying
>>>> the diskkeeper upgrade *unless you are entitled to a free upgrade or a
>>>> discount*
>>>>
>>>> here are the free ones (the first one works quite well)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag
>>>>
>>>> http://www.defraggler.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ken" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>>I have been a Diskeeper fan for years. However, I just had to
>>>>>reinstall Vista Ultimate and am having a minor problem getting
>>>>>Diskeeper to register 2007 Professional for the second time on the
>>>>>"same" machine but in a different partition. When I started to look at
>>>>>what was in Vista I stumbled into the built in Defrag program. Any
>>>>>recommendations/opinions - should I just shelve Diskeeper 2007 and use
>>>>>the Vista version? What about the 2008 versions of Diskeeper - any
>>>>>reasons to buy yet another version?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Please be careful with the latest version of Diskeeper 2008. I have
Vista 64 Home Premium with SP1 and the boot time defragmentation totally
trashed my Windows Vista installation. I had to reinstall Vista and all
my applications. I am now using Perfectdisk 2008 with boot time
defragmentation with no problems.


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PaulGo

I have been running Vista since beta2 and I have no complaints about the
built in defrag. I haven't even run it manually because it does it
automatically every week at 1:00am by default. I think it's great that
it runs on a schedule because when it does run, the drive is not in bad
shape.

If you wait until your drive is a mess, it's bound to take a long time.
If you need to see the defrag process, then I guess you want a
different program. I can't see the point in sitting there watching your
drives defragment, but if that's what you like...

Paul


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PMcGarr

case: antec p182
psu: corsair 750tx
mobo: asus maximus formula
cpu: intel q6600
ram: 8gb ocz ddr2 800mhz
vga: sapphire radeon hd3870 512mb
tv: sapphire theatrix 650pro
hdd: 2x wd caviar 250gb sata (raid 0)
hdd: 3x wd caviar 500gb sata (raid 5)
os: vista ultimate 64bit

Agreed. Diskkeeper's upgrades seemed more for their revenue than
functionality (like Symantec's). They both got dumped at my house.

PerfectDisk compared to Diskkeeper:
http://www.raxco.com/charts/pro_comparedkpro.cfm

"PaulGo" wrote:

>
> Please be careful with the latest version of Diskeeper 2008. I have
> Vista 64 Home Premium with SP1 and the boot time defragmentation totally
> trashed my Windows Vista installation. I had to reinstall Vista and all
> my applications. I am now using Perfectdisk 2008 with boot time
> defragmentation with no problems.
>
>
> --
> PaulGo
>

PaulGo;636457 Wrote:
> Please be careful with the latest version of Diskeeper 2008. I have
> Vista 64 Home Premium with SP1 and the boot time defragmentation totally
> trashed my Windows Vista installation. I had to reinstall Vista and all
> my applications. I am now using Perfectdisk 2008 with boot time
> defragmentation with no problems.I agree with this--don't use boot defrag with Diskeeper and Vistax64!
My system was hosed. I was able to do a repair install, and that worked
so I could use the partition again. I then was able to install a disk
image with Acronis to get the system back up and running. Other than
that it works fine, though.


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dpic