Vista is the dinosaur that will become exctinct

The dinosaurs died most likely because of climatologically changes.

Vista and all Vistiod OS's (Vistoid = Vista-like Operating systems that have
grown to monsterous porportions) will die because of economic change.

Vista is too big, bloated and needs too much CPU power to do things that a
far leaner OS could do.

This growth of need for CPU power and disk space will end. When? In the next
5 years.

The reason for this economic change, is the upcoming energy crisis that will
drive technology to become far more efficient.

This means that the new OS's of the future will not need so much CPU power
just to get their big fat behind off the ground (see vista the best
example),
nor so much hard disk space nor display adaptors that consume more power
than a microwave oven.

This also means that the speed of hardware upgrades that you will be able to
do (due to cost) will be further apart, since producing computer parts needs
energy to be made.

Gone will be the days when each new version of windows forces you to throw
out your old computer and buy a new one.
You would never throw a comptuer in the trash... because the costs of
replacing it will be too great.

New systems that will not be dependant so much on local hardware will be
built, so that very little energy will be needed to run these, thus the
desktop OS in its current form will die.

Although chips do have more processing power and use less energy for that
same processing power, the growing prices to produce these products, will
grow so much that new hardware will be costly. The result of this will be a
decline in the advancement of faster more powerful chips...

rather the companies will start to offer more and more GREEN CPUs. OF course
this means that hard disks that thrash all the time, and dislay adaptors
that use 500 watts are out of the question. Thus the whole Vista - SUV style
of computing will end.

It is crazy, but if you go to a computer store now you will fine 1 KW Power
Supply Units. That is 1000 watts.

Just imagine what would happen if you had to BURN OIL next to your computer
just to run it... you would be pouring the oil in that bioler and pouring
and pouring,
just to FEED that energy hugry Vista computer.

Now imagine all the comptuers of all the world that are on now, and how much
OIL they are burning. Its insane.

Sorry, the future will be very different. UNLESS a miracle alternative
source of energy would be revealed to humanity.




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"kraken" <> wrote in message
news:4797dccb$0$25981$.. .
> The dinosaurs died most likely because of climatologically changes.
>
> Vista and all Vistiod OS's (Vistoid = Vista-like Operating systems that
> have grown to monsterous porportions) will die because of economic change.
>
> Vista is too big, bloated and needs too much CPU power to do things that a
> far leaner OS could do.
>
> This growth of need for CPU power and disk space will end. When? In the
> next 5 years.
>
> The reason for this economic change, is the upcoming energy crisis that
> will drive technology to become far more efficient.
>
> This means that the new OS's of the future will not need so much CPU power
> just to get their big fat behind off the ground (see vista the best
> example),
> nor so much hard disk space nor display adaptors that consume more power
> than a microwave oven.
>
> This also means that the speed of hardware upgrades that you will be able
> to do (due to cost) will be further apart, since producing computer parts
> needs energy to be made.
>
> Gone will be the days when each new version of windows forces you to throw
> out your old computer and buy a new one.
> You would never throw a comptuer in the trash... because the costs of
> replacing it will be too great.
>
> New systems that will not be dependant so much on local hardware will be
> built, so that very little energy will be needed to run these, thus the
> desktop OS in its current form will die.
>
> Although chips do have more processing power and use less energy for that
> same processing power, the growing prices to produce these products, will
> grow so much that new hardware will be costly. The result of this will be
> a decline in the advancement of faster more powerful chips...
>
> rather the companies will start to offer more and more GREEN CPUs. OF
> course this means that hard disks that thrash all the time, and dislay
> adaptors that use 500 watts are out of the question. Thus the whole
> Vista - SUV style of computing will end.
>
> It is crazy, but if you go to a computer store now you will fine 1 KW
> Power Supply Units. That is 1000 watts.
>
> Just imagine what would happen if you had to BURN OIL next to your
> computer just to run it... you would be pouring the oil in that bioler and
> pouring and pouring,
> just to FEED that energy hugry Vista computer.
>
> Now imagine all the comptuers of all the world that are on now, and how
> much OIL they are burning. Its insane.
>
> Sorry, the future will be very different. UNLESS a miracle alternative
> source of energy would be revealed to humanity.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

*YAWN*

"kraken" <> wrote in message
news:4797dccb$0$25981$.. .
> The dinosaurs died most likely because of climatologically changes.
>
> Vista and all Vistiod OS's (Vistoid = Vista-like Operating systems that
> have grown to monsterous porportions) will die because of economic change.
>
> Vista is too big, bloated and needs too much CPU power to do things that a
> far leaner OS could do.
>
> This growth of need for CPU power and disk space will end. When? In the
> next 5 years.
>
> The reason for this economic change, is the upcoming energy crisis that
> will drive technology to become far more efficient.
>
> This means that the new OS's of the future will not need so much CPU power
> just to get their big fat behind off the ground (see vista the best
> example),
> nor so much hard disk space nor display adaptors that consume more power
> than a microwave oven.
>
> This also means that the speed of hardware upgrades that you will be able
> to do (due to cost) will be further apart, since producing computer parts
> needs energy to be made.
>
> Gone will be the days when each new version of windows forces you to throw
> out your old computer and buy a new one.
> You would never throw a comptuer in the trash... because the costs of
> replacing it will be too great.
>
> New systems that will not be dependant so much on local hardware will be
> built, so that very little energy will be needed to run these, thus the
> desktop OS in its current form will die.
>
> Although chips do have more processing power and use less energy for that
> same processing power, the growing prices to produce these products, will
> grow so much that new hardware will be costly. The result of this will be
> a decline in the advancement of faster more powerful chips...
>
> rather the companies will start to offer more and more GREEN CPUs. OF
> course this means that hard disks that thrash all the time, and dislay
> adaptors that use 500 watts are out of the question. Thus the whole
> Vista - SUV style of computing will end.
>
> It is crazy, but if you go to a computer store now you will fine 1 KW
> Power Supply Units. That is 1000 watts.
>
> Just imagine what would happen if you had to BURN OIL next to your
> computer just to run it... you would be pouring the oil in that bioler and
> pouring and pouring,
> just to FEED that energy hugry Vista computer.
>
> Now imagine all the comptuers of all the world that are on now, and how
> much OIL they are burning. Its insane.
>
> Sorry, the future will be very different. UNLESS a miracle alternative
> source of energy would be revealed to humanity.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>


Hardware 'power development' is not driven by the OS. Hardware becomes more
able and the operating system is developed to best make use of it..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

kraken wrote:


....one of the most ignorant and ill informed diatribes to ever be post here.
Are you really that stupid?
Wait...I think that was a rhetorical question.
Frank

tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista

tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and other
hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with
vista

and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy vista
from the shelf.

dont tell me about the advisor. That is a tool that doesnt do much. In fact
it gives misleading and usless information.


"Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "kraken" <> wrote in message
> news:4797dccb$0$25981$.. .
>> The dinosaurs died most likely because of climatologically changes.
>>
>> Vista and all Vistiod OS's (Vistoid = Vista-like Operating systems that
>> have grown to monsterous porportions) will die because of economic
>> change.
>>
>> Vista is too big, bloated and needs too much CPU power to do things that
>> a far leaner OS could do.
>>
>> This growth of need for CPU power and disk space will end. When? In the
>> next 5 years.
>>
>> The reason for this economic change, is the upcoming energy crisis that
>> will drive technology to become far more efficient.
>>
>> This means that the new OS's of the future will not need so much CPU
>> power just to get their big fat behind off the ground (see vista the best
>> example),
>> nor so much hard disk space nor display adaptors that consume more power
>> than a microwave oven.
>>
>> This also means that the speed of hardware upgrades that you will be able
>> to do (due to cost) will be further apart, since producing computer parts
>> needs energy to be made.
>>
>> Gone will be the days when each new version of windows forces you to
>> throw out your old computer and buy a new one.
>> You would never throw a comptuer in the trash... because the costs of
>> replacing it will be too great.
>>
>> New systems that will not be dependant so much on local hardware will be
>> built, so that very little energy will be needed to run these, thus the
>> desktop OS in its current form will die.
>>
>> Although chips do have more processing power and use less energy for that
>> same processing power, the growing prices to produce these products, will
>> grow so much that new hardware will be costly. The result of this will be
>> a decline in the advancement of faster more powerful chips...
>>
>> rather the companies will start to offer more and more GREEN CPUs. OF
>> course this means that hard disks that thrash all the time, and dislay
>> adaptors that use 500 watts are out of the question. Thus the whole
>> Vista - SUV style of computing will end.
>>
>> It is crazy, but if you go to a computer store now you will fine 1 KW
>> Power Supply Units. That is 1000 watts.
>>
>> Just imagine what would happen if you had to BURN OIL next to your
>> computer just to run it... you would be pouring the oil in that bioler
>> and pouring and pouring,
>> just to FEED that energy hugry Vista computer.
>>
>> Now imagine all the comptuers of all the world that are on now, and how
>> much OIL they are burning. Its insane.
>>
>> Sorry, the future will be very different. UNLESS a miracle alternative
>> source of energy would be revealed to humanity.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>
> Hardware 'power development' is not driven by the OS. Hardware becomes
> more able and the operating system is developed to best make use of it..
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
>
>
>



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kraken(or crack head) you really dont have a clue as to what your
talking about! Do you?


--
joel406

"kraken" <> wrote in message
news:4797e424$0$26075$.. .
> tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
> cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista
>
> tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and other
> hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with
> vista
>
> and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
> hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy
> vista from the shelf.
>
> dont tell me about the advisor. That is a tool that doesnt do much. In
> fact it gives misleading and usless information.
>
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "kraken" <> wrote in message
>> news:4797dccb$0$25981$.. .
>>> The dinosaurs died most likely because of climatologically changes.
>>>
>>> Vista and all Vistiod OS's (Vistoid = Vista-like Operating systems that
>>> have grown to monsterous porportions) will die because of economic
>>> change.
>>>
>>> Vista is too big, bloated and needs too much CPU power to do things that
>>> a far leaner OS could do.
>>>
>>> This growth of need for CPU power and disk space will end. When? In the
>>> next 5 years.
>>>
>>> The reason for this economic change, is the upcoming energy crisis that
>>> will drive technology to become far more efficient.
>>>
>>> This means that the new OS's of the future will not need so much CPU
>>> power just to get their big fat behind off the ground (see vista the
>>> best example),
>>> nor so much hard disk space nor display adaptors that consume more power
>>> than a microwave oven.
>>>
>>> This also means that the speed of hardware upgrades that you will be
>>> able to do (due to cost) will be further apart, since producing computer
>>> parts needs energy to be made.
>>>
>>> Gone will be the days when each new version of windows forces you to
>>> throw out your old computer and buy a new one.
>>> You would never throw a comptuer in the trash... because the costs of
>>> replacing it will be too great.
>>>
>>> New systems that will not be dependant so much on local hardware will be
>>> built, so that very little energy will be needed to run these, thus the
>>> desktop OS in its current form will die.
>>>
>>> Although chips do have more processing power and use less energy for
>>> that same processing power, the growing prices to produce these
>>> products, will grow so much that new hardware will be costly. The result
>>> of this will be a decline in the advancement of faster more powerful
>>> chips...
>>>
>>> rather the companies will start to offer more and more GREEN CPUs. OF
>>> course this means that hard disks that thrash all the time, and dislay
>>> adaptors that use 500 watts are out of the question. Thus the whole
>>> Vista - SUV style of computing will end.
>>>
>>> It is crazy, but if you go to a computer store now you will fine 1 KW
>>> Power Supply Units. That is 1000 watts.
>>>
>>> Just imagine what would happen if you had to BURN OIL next to your
>>> computer just to run it... you would be pouring the oil in that bioler
>>> and pouring and pouring,
>>> just to FEED that energy hugry Vista computer.
>>>
>>> Now imagine all the comptuers of all the world that are on now, and how
>>> much OIL they are burning. Its insane.
>>>
>>> Sorry, the future will be very different. UNLESS a miracle alternative
>>> source of energy would be revealed to humanity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hardware 'power development' is not driven by the OS. Hardware becomes
>> more able and the operating system is developed to best make use of it..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
>

"tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista"

Srike one.
Faster prossesors, system bus speeds and faster memory came BEFORE vista.

"tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and other
hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with "

Strike two.
Drivers are software not hardware.

"and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy vista
from the shelf."

Strike three....just for the way you spell "spended".

"kraken" <> wrote in message
news:4797e424$0$26075$.. .
> tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
> cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista
>
> tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and other
> hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant work with
> vista
>
> and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
> hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy
> vista from the shelf.
>
> dont tell me about the advisor. That is a tool that doesnt do much. In
> fact it gives misleading and usless information.
>
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "kraken" <> wrote in message
>> news:4797dccb$0$25981$.. .
>>> The dinosaurs died most likely because of climatologically changes.
>>>
>>> Vista and all Vistiod OS's (Vistoid = Vista-like Operating systems that
>>> have grown to monsterous porportions) will die because of economic
>>> change.
>>>
>>> Vista is too big, bloated and needs too much CPU power to do things that
>>> a far leaner OS could do.
>>>
>>> This growth of need for CPU power and disk space will end. When? In the
>>> next 5 years.
>>>
>>> The reason for this economic change, is the upcoming energy crisis that
>>> will drive technology to become far more efficient.
>>>
>>> This means that the new OS's of the future will not need so much CPU
>>> power just to get their big fat behind off the ground (see vista the
>>> best example),
>>> nor so much hard disk space nor display adaptors that consume more power
>>> than a microwave oven.
>>>
>>> This also means that the speed of hardware upgrades that you will be
>>> able to do (due to cost) will be further apart, since producing computer
>>> parts needs energy to be made.
>>>
>>> Gone will be the days when each new version of windows forces you to
>>> throw out your old computer and buy a new one.
>>> You would never throw a comptuer in the trash... because the costs of
>>> replacing it will be too great.
>>>
>>> New systems that will not be dependant so much on local hardware will be
>>> built, so that very little energy will be needed to run these, thus the
>>> desktop OS in its current form will die.
>>>
>>> Although chips do have more processing power and use less energy for
>>> that same processing power, the growing prices to produce these
>>> products, will grow so much that new hardware will be costly. The result
>>> of this will be a decline in the advancement of faster more powerful
>>> chips...
>>>
>>> rather the companies will start to offer more and more GREEN CPUs. OF
>>> course this means that hard disks that thrash all the time, and dislay
>>> adaptors that use 500 watts are out of the question. Thus the whole
>>> Vista - SUV style of computing will end.
>>>
>>> It is crazy, but if you go to a computer store now you will fine 1 KW
>>> Power Supply Units. That is 1000 watts.
>>>
>>> Just imagine what would happen if you had to BURN OIL next to your
>>> computer just to run it... you would be pouring the oil in that bioler
>>> and pouring and pouring,
>>> just to FEED that energy hugry Vista computer.
>>>
>>> Now imagine all the comptuers of all the world that are on now, and how
>>> much OIL they are burning. Its insane.
>>>
>>> Sorry, the future will be very different. UNLESS a miracle alternative
>>> source of energy would be revealed to humanity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hardware 'power development' is not driven by the OS. Hardware becomes
>> more able and the operating system is developed to best make use of it..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>


My computer predated Vista by a couple of years. My scanner is eight years
old, my printer is 4 years old.

Each Windows OS upgrade has required more of everything than the previous
release. The computer user has a responsibility to ensure that their
hardware meets or exceeds the minimum specification for their chosen OS.

The Vista advisor is just that. It certainly gives the user more clue than
if it is assumed that everything will be ok.

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

> My computer predated Vista by a couple of years. My scanner is eight years
> old, my printer is 4 years old.

Your computer has poor performance with vista, or you are not using it to do
much.
As for the peripherals you just got lucky, I thought MVPs read posts in
these newsgroups since many people complain about these 2 problems

>Each Windows OS upgrade has required more of everything than the previous
release.

That's what I am trying to tell you. This trend is going to end. Abruptly.
It cannot continue this way.

What will replace this technology is green cpus like this
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33544/135/

this means that you will still have processing power, but it will be running
a better OS
that is not power hungry like vista. The OS itself should be invisible to
the user and use almost no reasources.

Most likely candidates are some flavor of linux.






"Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:e%...
> "kraken" <> wrote in message
> news:4797e424$0$26075$.. .
>> tell that to all those people who need to buy new hardware, upgrade their
>> cpu, ram and hard disks or even buy whole new computers just to use vista
>>
>> tell that to all those people who need new printers and scanners and
>> other hardware because the old ones that worked very well before cant
>> work with vista
>>
>> and tell that to all those people that learned all this vista resource
>> hunger and incompatibilities AFTER they spended all their money to buy
>> vista from the shelf.
>>
>> dont tell me about the advisor. That is a tool that doesnt do much. In
>> fact it gives misleading and usless information.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> "kraken" <> wrote in message
>>> news:4797dccb$0$25981$.. .
>>>> The dinosaurs died most likely because of climatologically changes.
>>>>
>>>> Vista and all Vistiod OS's (Vistoid = Vista-like Operating systems that
>>>> have grown to monsterous porportions) will die because of economic
>>>> change.
>>>>
>>>> Vista is too big, bloated and needs too much CPU power to do things
>>>> that a far leaner OS could do.
>>>>
>>>> This growth of need for CPU power and disk space will end. When? In the
>>>> next 5 years.
>>>>
>>>> The reason for this economic change, is the upcoming energy crisis that
>>>> will drive technology to become far more efficient.
>>>>
>>>> This means that the new OS's of the future will not need so much CPU
>>>> power just to get their big fat behind off the ground (see vista the
>>>> best example),
>>>> nor so much hard disk space nor display adaptors that consume more
>>>> power than a microwave oven.
>>>>
>>>> This also means that the speed of hardware upgrades that you will be
>>>> able to do (due to cost) will be further apart, since producing
>>>> computer parts needs energy to be made.
>>>>
>>>> Gone will be the days when each new version of windows forces you to
>>>> throw out your old computer and buy a new one.
>>>> You would never throw a comptuer in the trash... because the costs of
>>>> replacing it will be too great.
>>>>
>>>> New systems that will not be dependant so much on local hardware will
>>>> be built, so that very little energy will be needed to run these, thus
>>>> the desktop OS in its current form will die.
>>>>
>>>> Although chips do have more processing power and use less energy for
>>>> that same processing power, the growing prices to produce these
>>>> products, will grow so much that new hardware will be costly. The
>>>> result of this will be a decline in the advancement of faster more
>>>> powerful chips...
>>>>
>>>> rather the companies will start to offer more and more GREEN CPUs. OF
>>>> course this means that hard disks that thrash all the time, and dislay
>>>> adaptors that use 500 watts are out of the question. Thus the whole
>>>> Vista - SUV style of computing will end.
>>>>
>>>> It is crazy, but if you go to a computer store now you will fine 1 KW
>>>> Power Supply Units. That is 1000 watts.
>>>>
>>>> Just imagine what would happen if you had to BURN OIL next to your
>>>> computer just to run it... you would be pouring the oil in that bioler
>>>> and pouring and pouring,
>>>> just to FEED that energy hugry Vista computer.
>>>>
>>>> Now imagine all the comptuers of all the world that are on now, and how
>>>> much OIL they are burning. Its insane.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, the future will be very different. UNLESS a miracle alternative
>>>> source of energy would be revealed to humanity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hardware 'power development' is not driven by the OS. Hardware becomes
>>> more able and the operating system is developed to best make use of it..
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>
> My computer predated Vista by a couple of years. My scanner is eight years
> old, my printer is 4 years old.
>
> Each Windows OS upgrade has required more of everything than the previous
> release. The computer user has a responsibility to ensure that their
> hardware meets or exceeds the minimum specification for their chosen OS.
>
> The Vista advisor is just that. It certainly gives the user more clue than
> if it is assumed that everything will be ok.
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
>
>
>




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So lets just say for sake of argument I have a computer running windows
95/98 that has a pentium 2, 32mb of ram, and a 8gb hdd, and a printer
that does have have xp driver support (I don't thank god)

I want to upgrade to windows xp (cause everyone loves xp and hates
vista, right?).

By your argument:

XP is a waste because I have to upgrade / buy new hardware JUST TO run
a NEW os. XP uses more ram then 95/98, and when it first came out lots
of people had issues upgrading (sound familiar yet?)

Times change, hardware changes, and everyone time a new OS comes out
people b*tch that it's not as good as the pervious one. New OS's take
use of new hardware, and really don't care about the older stuff.

Would you complain if your 5 year old model car wasn't as fast and
couldn't use the parts from the newer, faster model? No, you wouldn't.


--
SilverWS602

- Core 2 Quad Q6600
- Abit IN9 32 MAX Motherboard
- 4 GB Patriot Extreme Performance RAM PC-6400 @ 4-4-4-12
- EVGA 8800 GT KO Edition x 2 (SLI)
- 74gb Raptor HDD
- Vista Home Premium x64