Vista a dog, or what ????

My XP died and I just bought a Vista machine, thus far about 50% of my
old programs won't run, including

Matlab 5.3
CoolEdit
Cakewalk Express
Humungous games

I'm a heavy user of the 1st three progs, and Humungous made the best
kid games and I've got a new kid. OK, it's old stuff, but I've gone
thru WIndows 95, 98, 2000, and xp, with no problems, and now
everything won't work ....

Plus the computer has a RealTek audio gadget that undoes the
flexibility of the old system.

I'm gonna take the thing back and pay a 60.00 restock fee, and try to
revive my XP machine.

To me it looks like MS shot the pooch with Vista, what is the
consensus ?

"Slide" <> wrote in message
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> To me it looks like MS shot the pooch with Vista, what is the
> consensus ?


A lotta people like it. Lots hate it.

As DP suggested, many like it and many hate it with many more
somewhere in between.

Have you checked with the program manufacturers about Windows Vista
compatibility?
Did you try Compatibility Mode?
Ask other users of those programs to see if they have a solution.

If you decide to return it, some OEMs and most local shops will sell
computers with any operating system you choose, including Windows XP
through January 2008.


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"Slide" <> wrote in message
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> My XP died and I just bought a Vista machine, thus far about 50% of
> my
> old programs won't run, including
>
> Matlab 5.3
> CoolEdit
> Cakewalk Express
> Humungous games
>
> I'm a heavy user of the 1st three progs, and Humungous made the best
> kid games and I've got a new kid. OK, it's old stuff, but I've gone
> thru WIndows 95, 98, 2000, and xp, with no problems, and now
> everything won't work ....
>
> Plus the computer has a RealTek audio gadget that undoes the
> flexibility of the old system.
>
> I'm gonna take the thing back and pay a 60.00 restock fee, and try
> to
> revive my XP machine.
>
> To me it looks like MS shot the pooch with Vista, what is the
> consensus ?

you will have to get updated versions of those programs or other ones that
are similar...

or install XP and dual boot your pc

they changed the sound structure too much in vista, and that is making many
people who create or edit music very mad.

They stick with windowsXP for now....


"Slide" <> wrote in message
news: ups.com...
> My XP died and I just bought a Vista machine, thus far about 50% of my
> old programs won't run, including
>
> Matlab 5.3
> CoolEdit
> Cakewalk Express
> Humungous games
>
> I'm a heavy user of the 1st three progs, and Humungous made the best
> kid games and I've got a new kid. OK, it's old stuff, but I've gone
> thru WIndows 95, 98, 2000, and xp, with no problems, and now
> everything won't work ....
>
> Plus the computer has a RealTek audio gadget that undoes the
> flexibility of the old system.
>
> I'm gonna take the thing back and pay a 60.00 restock fee, and try to
> revive my XP machine.
>
> To me it looks like MS shot the pooch with Vista, what is the
> consensus ?
>

Slide wrote:

> My XP died and I just bought a Vista machine, thus far about 50% of my
> old programs won't run, including
>
> Matlab 5.3
> CoolEdit
> Cakewalk Express
> Humungous games
>
> I'm a heavy user of the 1st three progs, and Humungous made the best
> kid games and I've got a new kid. OK, it's old stuff, but I've gone
> thru WIndows 95, 98, 2000, and xp, with no problems, and now
> everything won't work ....
>
> Plus the computer has a RealTek audio gadget that undoes the
> flexibility of the old system.
>
> I'm gonna take the thing back and pay a 60.00 restock fee, and try to
> revive my XP machine.
>
> To me it looks like MS shot the pooch with Vista, what is the
> consensus ?
>

And just what is the configuration of this particular machine? That is,
was this Vista machine built specifically with these 3 applications in
mind or was it just an off-the-shelf OEM purchase? I would have done
some serious research if I were going to be using Matlab, CoolEdit and
Cakewalk Express. AFAIK, the overhead of using older Windows apps such
as CoolEdit does increase with more complex OS's, as I have found when
using it with Win98SE, Windows NT, Windows 2000 and Windows XP. OTOH,
my machine designs do compensate for such changes over the years.

Also keep in mind that people on this NG are here mostly to seek solutions
to problems. So you might find a slightly more negative tilt here than you
do in the entire universe of Vista users.
I like it and have had few problems if any. But I don't deny that other
folks have had problems.




"DP" <> wrote in message
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> "Slide" <> wrote in message
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>>
>> To me it looks like MS shot the pooch with Vista, what is the
>> consensus ?
>
>
> A lotta people like it. Lots hate it.
>
>

"Slide" <> wrote in message
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> My XP died and I just bought a Vista machine, thus far about 50% of my
> old programs won't run, including
>
> Matlab 5.3
> CoolEdit
> Cakewalk Express
> Humungous games
>
> I'm a heavy user of the 1st three progs, and Humungous made the best
> kid games and I've got a new kid. OK, it's old stuff, but I've gone
> thru WIndows 95, 98, 2000, and xp, with no problems, and now
> everything won't work ....
>
> Plus the computer has a RealTek audio gadget that undoes the
> flexibility of the old system.
>
> I'm gonna take the thing back and pay a 60.00 restock fee, and try to
> revive my XP machine.
>
> To me it looks like MS shot the pooch with Vista, what is the consensus ?

There is no real consensus.
Somwe like it, some hate it, some don't know enough to be sure.
I think MS missed the pooch, and their foot & shot themselves directly in
the head.
If Vista had actually been an improvement, I would have bought 250 new
machines for our network.
But I dislike it enough that I put off upgrading many systems and converted
several older W98/ME/NT/W2K systems to Linux.
I don't think MS has gotten the message about just how many of us dislike it
enough to avoid it.... or they are arrogant enough to think 'they'll come
around in time'.

Not Me wrote:
> "Slide" <> wrote in message
> news: ups.com...
>> My XP died and I just bought a Vista machine, thus far about 50% of my
>> old programs won't run, including
>>
>> Matlab 5.3
>> CoolEdit
>> Cakewalk Express
>> Humungous games
>>
>> I'm a heavy user of the 1st three progs, and Humungous made the best
>> kid games and I've got a new kid. OK, it's old stuff, but I've gone
>> thru WIndows 95, 98, 2000, and xp, with no problems, and now
>> everything won't work ....
>>
>> Plus the computer has a RealTek audio gadget that undoes the
>> flexibility of the old system.
>>
>> I'm gonna take the thing back and pay a 60.00 restock fee, and try to
>> revive my XP machine.
>>
>> To me it looks like MS shot the pooch with Vista, what is the consensus ?
>
> There is no real consensus.
> Somwe like it, some hate it, some don't know enough to be sure.
> I think MS missed the pooch, and their foot & shot themselves directly in
> the head.
> If Vista had actually been an improvement, I would have bought 250 new
> machines for our network.
> But I dislike it enough that I put off upgrading many systems and converted
> several older W98/ME/NT/W2K systems to Linux.
> I don't think MS has gotten the message about just how many of us dislike it
> enough to avoid it.... or they are arrogant enough to think 'they'll come
> around in time'.
>
>

In what way is Vista not an improvement for you? In many ways it is but
it does come with a steep learning curve.

Are your users savvy enough to use Linux? Our users are such a bunch of
dim-wits who would run a mile if they saw Linux. Hand-holding all they
way with our bunch. Poor helpdesk

We've put just under 900 Vista boxes out so far with no problems at all
but I do feel sorry for our training department.

"Slide" <> wrote in message
news: ups.com...
> My XP died and I just bought a Vista machine, thus far about 50% of my
> old programs won't run, including
>
> Matlab 5.3
> CoolEdit
> Cakewalk Express
> Humungous games
>
> I'm a heavy user of the 1st three progs, and Humungous made the best
> kid games and I've got a new kid. OK, it's old stuff, but I've gone
> thru WIndows 95, 98, 2000, and xp, with no problems, and now
> everything won't work ....
>
> Plus the computer has a RealTek audio gadget that undoes the
> flexibility of the old system.
>
> I'm gonna take the thing back and pay a 60.00 restock fee, and try to
> revive my XP machine.
>
> To me it looks like MS shot the pooch with Vista, what is the
> consensus ?
>
>
Some program just will not work in Vista, same as some old programs would
not work in XP and the same for 95 before that.



--
Ian

"Not Me" <> wrote in message
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> "Slide" <> wrote in message
> news: ups.com...
>> My XP died and I just bought a Vista machine, thus far about 50% of my
>> old programs won't run, including
>>
>> Matlab 5.3
>> CoolEdit
>> Cakewalk Express
>> Humungous games
>>
>> I'm a heavy user of the 1st three progs, and Humungous made the best
>> kid games and I've got a new kid. OK, it's old stuff, but I've gone
>> thru WIndows 95, 98, 2000, and xp, with no problems, and now
>> everything won't work ....
>>
>> Plus the computer has a RealTek audio gadget that undoes the
>> flexibility of the old system.
>>
>> I'm gonna take the thing back and pay a 60.00 restock fee, and try to
>> revive my XP machine.
>>
>> To me it looks like MS shot the pooch with Vista, what is the consensus ?
>
> There is no real consensus.
> Somwe like it, some hate it, some don't know enough to be sure.
> I think MS missed the pooch, and their foot & shot themselves directly in
> the head.
> If Vista had actually been an improvement, I would have bought 250 new
> machines for our network.
> But I dislike it enough that I put off upgrading many systems and
> converted several older W98/ME/NT/W2K systems to Linux.
> I don't think MS has gotten the message about just how many of us dislike
> it enough to avoid it.... or they are arrogant enough to think 'they'll
> come around in time'.
>
>
1% loss is not big deal, so many people try Linux and move right back to
windows. You your choice and let other make thiers.



--
Ian